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Old 12-30-2008   #1 (permalink)
thnewton


 
 

Can't nest WLM's categories like OE's groups?

hi, when managing contacts in oe i was able to group contacts and then create
email distribution lists from multiple groups - a very powerful feature. in
wlm, the categories feature is completely flat - no nesting possible. I'm
using 14.0.8050.1202

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Old 12-30-2008   #2 (permalink)
GbH


 
 

Re: Can't nest WLM's categories like OE's groups?


"thnewton" <thnewton@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> hi, when managing contacts in oe i was able to group contacts and then
> create
> email distribution lists from multiple groups - a very powerful
> feature. in
> wlm, the categories feature is completely flat - no nesting possible.
> I'm
> using 14.0.8050.1202
Group nesting is one of the admirable features of OE that unfortunately
didn't survive the transition to WLM.
I personally am very happy the crippled OE message store didn't either.


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Old 12-30-2008   #3 (permalink)
Dave


 
 

Re: Can't nest WLM's categories like OE's groups?

WLM has groups, which are mail lists.
It doesn't have any other organization methods.


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"thnewton" <thnewton@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> hi, when managing contacts in oe i was able to group contacts and then
> create
> email distribution lists from multiple groups - a very powerful feature.
> in
> wlm, the categories feature is completely flat - no nesting possible. I'm
> using 14.0.8050.1202
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-30-2008   #4 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: Can't nest WLM's categories like OE's groups?

The OP says he uses v. 14, which doesn't have 'groups' - it has
Categories, a rose by any other name. But that doesn't mean that 'it
doesn't have any other organization methods.' Here are two
suggestions:
(1) Be creative with Nicknames. Give all your tennis mates nicknames
like T Andy, T Bill, T Charlie. All your workmates get nicknames
like W Charlie, W Dave and W Eddie. Then, when you want to mail your
tennis team, type 'T ' in the To: field and all your tennis contacts
will appear ready to be picked from. Charlie can easily figure in
both lists. If all your T contacts belong to a category called
Tennis, then you can just start typing 'Tennis' in the To: field. If
you want to exclude some from a particular mailing, a click on the
'+' sign will reveal all the contacts in that category; just delete
the appropriate ones.
(2) For even more segregation, use Live IDs to set up separate lists
of contacts for work, family, hobby or whatever. These again can
contain duplicates, but they won't synchronize. That means that if
Charlie gets a new phone number, you'll have to change it in each
list that he figures in. It's quick and easy to change your sign-in
ID, and the moment you've done so, the contacts associated with that
ID will be available.

There are other possibilities, too, but that will do for now.
--
Noel

"Dave" <dave@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> WLM has groups, which are mail lists.
> It doesn't have any other organization methods.
Quote:
Quote:

> "thnewton" <thnewton@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:35AC1FCE-CCF2-49BD-AB58-6C559995A868@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> hi, when managing contacts in oe i was able to group contacts and
>> then create
>> email distribution lists from multiple groups - a very powerful
>> feature. in
>> wlm, the categories feature is completely flat - no nesting
>> possible. I'm
>> using 14.0.8050.1202
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-03-2009   #5 (permalink)
thnewton


 
 

Re: Can't nest WLM's categories like OE's groups?

Oh my, Ildhun. Creative, yes. but you cannot be serious. "TJNGBFWR Tom!!!!?
" ;-] Face it, without the ability to nest groups, wlm's contact management
and communications capabilities are limited compared to oe...

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> The OP says he uses v. 14, which doesn't have 'groups' - it has
> Categories, a rose by any other name. But that doesn't mean that 'it
> doesn't have any other organization methods.' Here are two suggestions:
> (1) Be creative with Nicknames. Give all your tennis mates nicknames like
> T Andy, T Bill, T Charlie. All your workmates get nicknames like W
> Charlie, W Dave and W Eddie. Then, when you want to mail your tennis team,
> type 'T ' in the To: field and all your tennis contacts will appear ready
> to be picked from. Charlie can easily figure in both lists. If all your T
> contacts belong to a category called Tennis, then you can just start
> typing 'Tennis' in the To: field. If you want to exclude some from a
> particular mailing, a click on the '+' sign will reveal all the contacts
> in that category; just delete the appropriate ones.
> (2) For even more segregation, use Live IDs to set up separate lists of
> contacts for work, family, hobby or whatever. These again can contain
> duplicates, but they won't synchronize. That means that if Charlie gets a
> new phone number, you'll have to change it in each list that he figures
> in. It's quick and easy to change your sign-in ID, and the moment you've
> done so, the contacts associated with that ID will be available.
>
> There are other possibilities, too, but that will do for now.
> --
> Noel
>
> "Dave" <dave@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OCUfVOtaJHA.4820@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> WLM has groups, which are mail lists.
>> It doesn't have any other organization methods.
>
Quote:
>
Quote:

>> "thnewton" <thnewton@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:35AC1FCE-CCF2-49BD-AB58-6C559995A868@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> hi, when managing contacts in oe i was able to group contacts and then
>>> create
>>> email distribution lists from multiple groups - a very powerful feature.
>>> in
>>> wlm, the categories feature is completely flat - no nesting possible.
>>> I'm
>>> using 14.0.8050.1202
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-04-2009   #6 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: Can't nest WLM's categories like OE's groups?

I wouldn't know about OE's contact management, so I have difficulty
'facing it'. I'm also quite serious - the systems I describe have
served me well since I started using WLMail in the summer of 2006.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'nested group', but if it
means - as your OP suggests - a group of contacts harvested from
other existing groups, then I don't see why you can't do just that
in WLMail as well. Perhaps you'd care to explain.

If the functions available in WLMail don't fit your requirements,
then you might shell out for Outlook - a fully fledged Personal
Information Manager which WLMail has no pretensions to be.
--
Noel

"thnewton" <thnewton@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Oh my, Ildhun. Creative, yes. but you cannot be serious. "TJNGBFWR
> Tom!!!!? " ;-] Face it, without the ability to nest groups, wlm's
> contact management and communications capabilities are limited
> compared to oe...
>
> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eE1zHgtaJHA.4480@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> The OP says he uses v. 14, which doesn't have 'groups' - it has
>> Categories, a rose by any other name. But that doesn't mean that
>> 'it doesn't have any other organization methods.' Here are two
>> suggestions:
>> (1) Be creative with Nicknames. Give all your tennis mates
>> nicknames like T Andy, T Bill, T Charlie. All your workmates get
>> nicknames like W Charlie, W Dave and W Eddie. Then, when you want
>> to mail your tennis team, type 'T ' in the To: field and all your
>> tennis contacts will appear ready to be picked from. Charlie can
>> easily figure in both lists. If all your T contacts belong to a
>> category called Tennis, then you can just start typing 'Tennis'
>> in the To: field. If you want to exclude some from a particular
>> mailing, a click on the '+' sign will reveal all the contacts in
>> that category; just delete the appropriate ones.
>> (2) For even more segregation, use Live IDs to set up separate
>> lists of contacts for work, family, hobby or whatever. These
>> again can contain duplicates, but they won't synchronize. That
>> means that if Charlie gets a new phone number, you'll have to
>> change it in each list that he figures in. It's quick and easy to
>> change your sign-in ID, and the moment you've done so, the
>> contacts associated with that ID will be available.
>>
>> There are other possibilities, too, but that will do for now.
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>> "Dave" <dave@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OCUfVOtaJHA.4820@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> WLM has groups, which are mail lists.
>>> It doesn't have any other organization methods.
>>
Quote:

>>> Vista Home Premium 32 SP2 beta
>>> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>>> http://download.live.com/wlmail
>>
Quote:

>>> "thnewton" <thnewton@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:35AC1FCE-CCF2-49BD-AB58-6C559995A868@xxxxxx
>>>> hi, when managing contacts in oe i was able to group contacts
>>>> and then create
>>>> email distribution lists from multiple groups - a very powerful
>>>> feature. in
>>>> wlm, the categories feature is completely flat - no nesting
>>>> possible. I'm
>>>> using 14.0.8050.1202
>>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-05-2009   #7 (permalink)
thnewton


 
 

Re: Can't nest WLM's categories like OE's groups?

Hi, at the top of thread, GbH told me "Group nesting is one of the admirable
features of OE that unfortunately didn't survive the transition to WLM."
That sums it up.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-05-2009   #8 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: Can't nest WLM's categories like OE's groups?

"thnewton" <thnewton@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Hi, at the top of thread, GbH told me "Group nesting is one of the
> admirable features of OE that unfortunately didn't survive the
> transition to WLM." That sums it up.
Yes, I noticed - but that doesn't explain what it does, and why you
can't do it in WLMail.
--
Noel

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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