Vista - Can messenger component be removed from Live Mail?

01-09-2009

Yes, that would be because I am looking at the latest version of Windows Live Mail, whereas it appears you have the redundant MSN Messenger.

I do suggest that you uninstall MSN Messenger since you have no need for it. If you decide that you want Windows Live Messenger, you can download it as part of the Windows Live Essentials suite at http://download.live.com/ which is where you will also find the latest release of Windows Live Mail.

You should be able to uninstall MSN Messenger 'Add or Remove Programs' in Control Panel if you have XP, or 'Programs and features' if you have Vista.

Search the web for "Uninstall MSN Messenger" if you have trouble uninstalling it.

--
Cheers,
Peter.R
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------

"Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5B25AC28-FC83-462E-A657-9E460EE02B4F@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Peter - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Things seem to have gone
> from bad to worse! First, let me reply to these procedures:
>
> "To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go:
> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services
> [section]->Stop signing in [button]... "
>
> Done, thanks!
>
> "To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System
> starts, in Messenger, go:
> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live
> Messenger when I log on to Windows...
>
> Also uncheck:
> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet
> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger
> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a
> webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger "
>
> I don't have a "sign-in" tab or a "security" tab. Could these tabs be
> missing because I still have MSN Messenger rather than WLMessenger? Can you
> advise how to get rid of MSN Messenger? Do I have to download WLMessenger,
> or can I wait until I actually need it for something?
>
> "Peter.R" wrote:
>

Quote:

>>
>> There is no 'Messenger' shortcut at the bottom of the folder pane in the latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail. (14.0.8050.1202). I can't remember if there was one in WLMail 12.0.1606, although I recall one in earlier Beta versions.
>>
>> To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go:
>> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services [section]->Stop signing in [button]...
>>
>> To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System starts, in Messenger, go:
>> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live Messenger when I log on to Windows...
>>
>> Also uncheck:
>> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet
>> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger
>> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger
>>
>> If you are not interested in Instant Messaging, then there is no need for you to run Messenger at all.
>>
>> I tried Comodo Firewall Pro (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/overview.html) for a while, and found that is really for quite advanced users. In addition, its "Defence+" option can be quite annoying if left enabled, so I disabled it. I am now happy to stick with Zone Alarm free firewall, even though I was recently given Zone Alarm Pro 2009 by Check Point.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Peter.R
>> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
>> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>> ---------------
>>
>> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news

E0238F2-FAE8-4E1D-B19A-F6A5F4A3E79A@xxxxxx
>>

Quote:

>> > Also, usually--but not always--when I try to log out of MSN Messenger, it
>> > will tell me there are other applications logged in. Are certain programs
>> > that I'm using dependent on Messenger to function? Which ones would they be?
>> >
>> > "Doofus" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?"
>> >>
>> >> Only if I don't need it for anything, like other programs.
>> >>
>> >> "Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?"
>> >>
>> >> WLM = Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606)
>> >>
>> >> "Which Spyware might you be concerned ?"
>> >>
>> >> Don't know--keyloggers, third-party logins? I use an unsecured neighborhood
>> >> wi-fi connection when available. I recently switched firewalls from Zone
>> >> Alarm to Comodo. My antivirus and anti-spyware is through AVG 8, and I have
>> >> added ThreatFire. I'm getting weird messages such as a third party is logged
>> >> into my browser (Firefox, Opera), and there's the Messenger issue on WLMail.
>> >> Messenger has installed itself as a shortcut in WLMail. Also, there is now a
>> >> sign-in when WLMail is launched, where there wasn't one before. And, of
>> >> course, I can't make heads or tails out of most of the messages that Comodo
>> >> generates. My Weatherbug icon no longer works, and I can no longer receive
>> >> internet streaming--audio or A/V. It's just a big mess!
>> >> "...winston" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?
>> >> > Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Which Spyware might you be concerned ?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > ...winston
>> >> > ms-mvp mail
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72C46F-DA76-48EA-AAE3-D88AFCBE2777@xxxxxx

>>

Quote:

>> >> > > Didn't have messenger on the toolbar until recently. Do I need it? What's
>> >> > > it for? If it's not needed, how do I remove it? I just want to send and
>> >> > > receive email and don't want spyware in the program.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > How do I know if my email client has been hacked?

01-09-2009

That's new information...
In case you missed it, these were asked 4/5 days ago
"Which version of Windows Live Messenger are you using ?"
"Is Windows Live Mail and MSn Messenger installed ?

Apparently the first is none, the second is true.

Which is why this response to your post was provided(also 4 days ago)
"The majority of the suggestions in this thread are directed at Windows Live Messenger, not Msn Messenger"

If you don't need an IM client, then uninstall Msn Messenger
- normally in add-remove programs(XP) or programs and features(Vista)

If you do need and use MSn Messenger, then if disabling all options in WLM and Msn Messenger doesn't help, then you'll have to live
with the current state.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5B25AC28-FC83-462E-A657-9E460EE02B4F@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Peter - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Things seem to have gone
> from bad to worse! First, let me reply to these procedures:
>
> "To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go:
> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services
> [section]->Stop signing in [button]... "
>
> Done, thanks!
>
> "To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System
> starts, in Messenger, go:
> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live
> Messenger when I log on to Windows...
>
> Also uncheck:
> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet
> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger
> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a
> webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger "
>
> I don't have a "sign-in" tab or a "security" tab. Could these tabs be
> missing because I still have MSN Messenger rather than WLMessenger? Can you
> advise how to get rid of MSN Messenger? Do I have to download WLMessenger,
> or can I wait until I actually need it for something?
>
> "Peter.R" wrote:
>

Quote:

>>
>> There is no 'Messenger' shortcut at the bottom of the folder pane in the latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail.
>> (14.0.8050.1202). I can't remember if there was one in WLMail 12.0.1606, although I recall one in earlier Beta versions.
>>
>> To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go:
>> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services [section]->Stop signing in [button]...
>>
>> To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System starts, in Messenger, go:
>> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live Messenger when I log on to Windows...
>>
>> Also uncheck:
>> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet
>> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger
>> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live
>> Messenger
>>
>> If you are not interested in Instant Messaging, then there is no need for you to run Messenger at all.
>>
>> I tried Comodo Firewall Pro (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/overview.html) for a while, and found that is really for
>> quite advanced users. In addition, its "Defence+" option can be quite annoying if left enabled, so I disabled it. I am now happy
>> to stick with Zone Alarm free firewall, even though I was recently given Zone Alarm Pro 2009 by Check Point.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Peter.R
>> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
>> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>> ---------------
>>
>> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news

E0238F2-FAE8-4E1D-B19A-F6A5F4A3E79A@xxxxxx
>>

Quote:

>> > Also, usually--but not always--when I try to log out of MSN Messenger, it
>> > will tell me there are other applications logged in. Are certain programs
>> > that I'm using dependent on Messenger to function? Which ones would they be?
>> >
>> > "Doofus" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?"
>> >>
>> >> Only if I don't need it for anything, like other programs.
>> >>
>> >> "Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?"
>> >>
>> >> WLM = Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606)
>> >>
>> >> "Which Spyware might you be concerned ?"
>> >>
>> >> Don't know--keyloggers, third-party logins? I use an unsecured neighborhood
>> >> wi-fi connection when available. I recently switched firewalls from Zone
>> >> Alarm to Comodo. My antivirus and anti-spyware is through AVG 8, and I have
>> >> added ThreatFire. I'm getting weird messages such as a third party is logged
>> >> into my browser (Firefox, Opera), and there's the Messenger issue on WLMail.
>> >> Messenger has installed itself as a shortcut in WLMail. Also, there is now a
>> >> sign-in when WLMail is launched, where there wasn't one before. And, of
>> >> course, I can't make heads or tails out of most of the messages that Comodo
>> >> generates. My Weatherbug icon no longer works, and I can no longer receive
>> >> internet streaming--audio or A/V. It's just a big mess!
>> >> "...winston" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?
>> >> > Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Which Spyware might you be concerned ?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > ...winston
>> >> > ms-mvp mail
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72C46F-DA76-48EA-AAE3-D88AFCBE2777@xxxxxx

>>

Quote:

>> >> > > Didn't have messenger on the toolbar until recently. Do I need it? What's
>> >> > > it for? If it's not needed, how do I remove it? I just want to send and
>> >> > > receive email and don't want spyware in the program.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > How do I know if my email client has been hacked?

01-09-2009

Hi Peter - I uninstalled MSN Messenger. Now I can't log into MSN (and can't
access email) until I install the "latest version of MSN Messenger.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...ermustbein.jpg
What's next?

"Peter.R" wrote:

Quote:

> Yes, that would be because I am looking at the latest version of Windows Live Mail, whereas it appears you have the redundant MSN Messenger.
>
> I do suggest that you uninstall MSN Messenger since you have no need for it. If you decide that you want Windows Live Messenger, you can download it as part of the Windows Live Essentials suite at http://download.live.com/ which is where you will also find the latest release of Windows Live Mail.
>
> You should be able to uninstall MSN Messenger 'Add or Remove Programs' in Control Panel if you have XP, or 'Programs and features' if you have Vista.
>
> Search the web for "Uninstall MSN Messenger" if you have trouble uninstalling it.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Peter.R
> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
> ---------------
>
> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5B25AC28-FC83-462E-A657-9E460EE02B4F@xxxxxx
>

Quote:

> > Peter - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Things seem to have gone
> > from bad to worse! First, let me reply to these procedures:
> >
> > "To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go:
> > Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services
> > [section]->Stop signing in [button]... "
> >
> > Done, thanks!
> >
> > "To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System
> > starts, in Messenger, go:
> > Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live
> > Messenger when I log on to Windows...
> >
> > Also uncheck:
> > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet
> > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger
> > Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a
> > webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger "
> >
> > I don't have a "sign-in" tab or a "security" tab. Could these tabs be
> > missing because I still have MSN Messenger rather than WLMessenger? Can you
> > advise how to get rid of MSN Messenger? Do I have to download WLMessenger,
> > or can I wait until I actually need it for something?
> >
> > "Peter.R" wrote:
> >

Quote:

> >>
> >> There is no 'Messenger' shortcut at the bottom of the folder pane in the latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail. (14.0.8050.1202). I can't remember if there was one in WLMail 12.0.1606, although I recall one in earlier Beta versions.
> >>
> >> To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go:
> >> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services [section]->Stop signing in [button]...
> >>
> >> To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System starts, in Messenger, go:
> >> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live Messenger when I log on to Windows...
> >>
> >> Also uncheck:
> >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet
> >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger
> >> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger
> >>
> >> If you are not interested in Instant Messaging, then there is no need for you to run Messenger at all.
> >>
> >> I tried Comodo Firewall Pro (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/overview.html) for a while, and found that is really for quite advanced users. In addition, its "Defence+" option can be quite annoying if left enabled, so I disabled it. I am now happy to stick with Zone Alarm free firewall, even though I was recently given Zone Alarm Pro 2009 by Check Point.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Peter.R
> >> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
> >> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
> >> ---------------
> >>
> >> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news

E0238F2-FAE8-4E1D-B19A-F6A5F4A3E79A@xxxxxx
> >>
> >> > Also, usually--but not always--when I try to log out of MSN Messenger, it
> >> > will tell me there are other applications logged in. Are certain programs
> >> > that I'm using dependent on Messenger to function? Which ones would they be?
> >> >
> >> > "Doofus" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?"
> >> >>
> >> >> Only if I don't need it for anything, like other programs.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?"
> >> >>
> >> >> WLM = Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606)
> >> >>
> >> >> "Which Spyware might you be concerned ?"
> >> >>
> >> >> Don't know--keyloggers, third-party logins? I use an unsecured neighborhood
> >> >> wi-fi connection when available. I recently switched firewalls from Zone
> >> >> Alarm to Comodo. My antivirus and anti-spyware is through AVG 8, and I have
> >> >> added ThreatFire. I'm getting weird messages such as a third party is logged
> >> >> into my browser (Firefox, Opera), and there's the Messenger issue on WLMail.
> >> >> Messenger has installed itself as a shortcut in WLMail. Also, there is now a
> >> >> sign-in when WLMail is launched, where there wasn't one before. And, of
> >> >> course, I can't make heads or tails out of most of the messages that Comodo
> >> >> generates. My Weatherbug icon no longer works, and I can no longer receive
> >> >> internet streaming--audio or A/V. It's just a big mess!
> >> >> "...winston" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?
> >> >> > Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Which Spyware might you be concerned ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > ...winston
> >> >> > ms-mvp mail
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72C46F-DA76-48EA-AAE3-D88AFCBE2777@xxxxxx
> >>
> >> >> > > Didn't have messenger on the toolbar until recently. Do I need it? What's
> >> >> > > it for? If it's not needed, how do I remove it? I just want to send and
> >> >> > > receive email and don't want spyware in the program.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > How do I know if my email client has been hacked?

01-10-2009

It would appear that you are using MSN Explorer, and that it integrates with Messenger.

I have never used MSN Explorer, but I believe that Messenger is automatically started (and maybe even signed in) when you run MSN Explorer.

Thus, if you want/need to continue using MSN Explorer, you will have to install Windows Live Messenger.

It is available through the Windows Live Essentials suite installer available at http://download.live.com/

You should upgrade Windows Live Mail when you install Windows Live Messenger. They are both part of the Windows Live Essentials suite.

--
Cheers,
Peter.R
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
---------------

"Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:4998604E-60C9-43A8-AAEE-17084DD51B67@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Hi Peter - I uninstalled MSN Messenger. Now I can't log into MSN (and can't
> access email) until I install the "latest version of MSN Messenger.
> http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...ermustbein.jpg
> What's next?
>
> "Peter.R" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> Yes, that would be because I am looking at the latest version of Windows Live Mail, whereas it appears you have the redundant MSN Messenger.
>>
>> I do suggest that you uninstall MSN Messenger since you have no need for it. If you decide that you want Windows Live Messenger, you can download it as part of the Windows Live Essentials suite at http://download.live.com/ which is where you will also find the latest release of Windows Live Mail.
>>
>> You should be able to uninstall MSN Messenger 'Add or Remove Programs' in Control Panel if you have XP, or 'Programs and features' if you have Vista.
>>
>> Search the web for "Uninstall MSN Messenger" if you have trouble uninstalling it.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Peter.R
>> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
>> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>> ---------------
>>
>> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5B25AC28-FC83-462E-A657-9E460EE02B4F@xxxxxx
>>

Quote:

>> > Peter - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Things seem to have gone
>> > from bad to worse! First, let me reply to these procedures:
>> >
>> > "To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go:
>> > Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services
>> > [section]->Stop signing in [button]... "
>> >
>> > Done, thanks!
>> >
>> > "To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System
>> > starts, in Messenger, go:
>> > Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live
>> > Messenger when I log on to Windows...
>> >
>> > Also uncheck:
>> > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet
>> > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger
>> > Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a
>> > webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger "
>> >
>> > I don't have a "sign-in" tab or a "security" tab. Could these tabs be
>> > missing because I still have MSN Messenger rather than WLMessenger? Can you
>> > advise how to get rid of MSN Messenger? Do I have to download WLMessenger,
>> > or can I wait until I actually need it for something?
>> >
>> > "Peter.R" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> There is no 'Messenger' shortcut at the bottom of the folder pane in the latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail. (14.0.8050.1202). I can't remember if there was one in WLMail 12.0.1606, although I recall one in earlier Beta versions.
>> >>
>> >> To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go:
>> >> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services [section]->Stop signing in [button]...
>> >>
>> >> To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System starts, in Messenger, go:
>> >> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live Messenger when I log on to Windows...
>> >>
>> >> Also uncheck:
>> >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet
>> >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger
>> >> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger
>> >>
>> >> If you are not interested in Instant Messaging, then there is no need for you to run Messenger at all.
>> >>
>> >> I tried Comodo Firewall Pro (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/overview.html) for a while, and found that is really for quite advanced users. In addition, its "Defence+" option can be quite annoying if left enabled, so I disabled it. I am now happy to stick with Zone Alarm free firewall, even though I was recently given Zone Alarm Pro 2009 by Check Point.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Peter.R
>> >> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
>> >> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>> >> ---------------
>> >>
>> >> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news

E0238F2-FAE8-4E1D-B19A-F6A5F4A3E79A@xxxxxx
>> >>
>> >> > Also, usually--but not always--when I try to log out of MSN Messenger, it
>> >> > will tell me there are other applications logged in. Are certain programs
>> >> > that I'm using dependent on Messenger to function? Which ones would they be?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Doofus" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Only if I don't need it for anything, like other programs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> WLM = Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Which Spyware might you be concerned ?"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Don't know--keyloggers, third-party logins? I use an unsecured neighborhood
>> >> >> wi-fi connection when available. I recently switched firewalls from Zone
>> >> >> Alarm to Comodo. My antivirus and anti-spyware is through AVG 8, and I have
>> >> >> added ThreatFire. I'm getting weird messages such as a third party is logged
>> >> >> into my browser (Firefox, Opera), and there's the Messenger issue on WLMail.
>> >> >> Messenger has installed itself as a shortcut in WLMail. Also, there is now a
>> >> >> sign-in when WLMail is launched, where there wasn't one before. And, of
>> >> >> course, I can't make heads or tails out of most of the messages that Comodo
>> >> >> generates. My Weatherbug icon no longer works, and I can no longer receive
>> >> >> internet streaming--audio or A/V. It's just a big mess!
>> >> >> "...winston" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?
>> >> >> > Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Which Spyware might you be concerned ?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > ...winston
>> >> >> > ms-mvp mail
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72C46F-DA76-48EA-AAE3-D88AFCBE2777@xxxxxx
>> >>
>> >> >> > > Didn't have messenger on the toolbar until recently. Do I need it? What's
>> >> >> > > it for? If it's not needed, how do I remove it? I just want to send and
>> >> >> > > receive email and don't want spyware in the program.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > How do I know if my email client has been hacked?

01-10-2009

Cross posted to the public.msn.discussion group for exposure to Msn Explorer/Msn Premium users

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Peter.R" <Peter.R@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e180eHvcJHA.936@xxxxxx

Quote:

> It would appear that you are using MSN Explorer, and that it integrates with Messenger.
>
> I have never used MSN Explorer, but I believe that Messenger is automatically started (and maybe even signed in) when you run MSN
> Explorer.
>
> Thus, if you want/need to continue using MSN Explorer, you will have to install Windows Live Messenger.
>
> It is available through the Windows Live Essentials suite installer available at http://download.live.com/
>
> You should upgrade Windows Live Mail when you install Windows Live Messenger. They are both part of the Windows Live Essentials
> suite.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Peter.R
> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
> ---------------
>
> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:4998604E-60C9-43A8-AAEE-17084DD51B67@xxxxxx
>

Quote:

>> Hi Peter - I uninstalled MSN Messenger. Now I can't log into MSN (and can't
>> access email) until I install the "latest version of MSN Messenger.
>> http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...ermustbein.jpg
>> What's next?
>>
>> "Peter.R" wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>> Yes, that would be because I am looking at the latest version of Windows Live Mail, whereas it appears you have the redundant
>>> MSN Messenger.
>>>
>>> I do suggest that you uninstall MSN Messenger since you have no need for it. If you decide that you want Windows Live
>>> Messenger, you can download it as part of the Windows Live Essentials suite at http://download.live.com/ which is where you
>>> will also find the latest release of Windows Live Mail.
>>>
>>> You should be able to uninstall MSN Messenger 'Add or Remove Programs' in Control Panel if you have XP, or 'Programs and
>>> features' if you have Vista.
>>>
>>> Search the web for "Uninstall MSN Messenger" if you have trouble uninstalling it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Peter.R
>>> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
>>> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>>> ---------------
>>>
>>> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5B25AC28-FC83-462E-A657-9E460EE02B4F@xxxxxx
>>>
>>> > Peter - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Things seem to have gone
>>> > from bad to worse! First, let me reply to these procedures:
>>> >
>>> > "To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go:
>>> > Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services
>>> > [section]->Stop signing in [button]... "
>>> >
>>> > Done, thanks!
>>> >
>>> > "To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System
>>> > starts, in Messenger, go:
>>> > Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live
>>> > Messenger when I log on to Windows...
>>> >
>>> > Also uncheck:
>>> > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet
>>> > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger
>>> > Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a
>>> > webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger "
>>> >
>>> > I don't have a "sign-in" tab or a "security" tab. Could these tabs be
>>> > missing because I still have MSN Messenger rather than WLMessenger? Can you
>>> > advise how to get rid of MSN Messenger? Do I have to download WLMessenger,
>>> > or can I wait until I actually need it for something?
>>> >
>>> > "Peter.R" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> There is no 'Messenger' shortcut at the bottom of the folder pane in the latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail.
>>> >> (14.0.8050.1202). I can't remember if there was one in WLMail 12.0.1606, although I recall one in earlier Beta versions.
>>> >>
>>> >> To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go:
>>> >> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services [section]->Stop signing in [button]...
>>> >>
>>> >> To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System starts, in Messenger, go:
>>> >> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live Messenger when I log on to Windows...
>>> >>
>>> >> Also uncheck:
>>> >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet
>>> >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger
>>> >> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live
>>> >> Messenger
>>> >>
>>> >> If you are not interested in Instant Messaging, then there is no need for you to run Messenger at all.
>>> >>
>>> >> I tried Comodo Firewall Pro (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/overview.html) for a while, and found that is really for
>>> >> quite advanced users. In addition, its "Defence+" option can be quite annoying if left enabled, so I disabled it. I am now
>>> >> happy to stick with Zone Alarm free firewall, even though I was recently given Zone Alarm Pro 2009 by Check Point.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> Peter.R
>>> >> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202)
>>> >> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>>> >> ---------------
>>> >>
>>> >> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news

E0238F2-FAE8-4E1D-B19A-F6A5F4A3E79A@xxxxxx
>>> >>
>>> >> > Also, usually--but not always--when I try to log out of MSN Messenger, it
>>> >> > will tell me there are other applications logged in. Are certain programs
>>> >> > that I'm using dependent on Messenger to function? Which ones would they be?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Doofus" wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> "Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?"
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Only if I don't need it for anything, like other programs.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?"
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> WLM = Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Which Spyware might you be concerned ?"
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Don't know--keyloggers, third-party logins? I use an unsecured neighborhood
>>> >> >> wi-fi connection when available. I recently switched firewalls from Zone
>>> >> >> Alarm to Comodo. My antivirus and anti-spyware is through AVG 8, and I have
>>> >> >> added ThreatFire. I'm getting weird messages such as a third party is logged
>>> >> >> into my browser (Firefox, Opera), and there's the Messenger issue on WLMail.
>>> >> >> Messenger has installed itself as a shortcut in WLMail. Also, there is now a
>>> >> >> sign-in when WLMail is launched, where there wasn't one before. And, of
>>> >> >> course, I can't make heads or tails out of most of the messages that Comodo
>>> >> >> generates. My Weatherbug icon no longer works, and I can no longer receive
>>> >> >> internet streaming--audio or A/V. It's just a big mess!
>>> >> >> "...winston" wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?
>>> >> >> > Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Which Spyware might you be concerned ?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > --
>>> >> >> > ...winston
>>> >> >> > ms-mvp mail
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72C46F-DA76-48EA-AAE3-D88AFCBE2777@xxxxxx
>>> >>
>>> >> >> > > Didn't have messenger on the toolbar until recently. Do I need it? What's
>>> >> >> > > it for? If it's not needed, how do I remove it? I just want to send and
>>> >> >> > > receive email and don't want spyware in the program.
>>> >> >> > >
>>> >> >> > > How do I know if my email client has been hacked?

01-09-2009	#31 (permalink)
Peter.R n/a posts	Re: Can messenger component be removed from Live Mail? Yes, that would be because I am looking at the latest version of Windows Live Mail, whereas it appears you have the redundant MSN Messenger. I do suggest that you uninstall MSN Messenger since you have no need for it. If you decide that you want Windows Live Messenger, you can download it as part of the Windows Live Essentials suite at http://download.live.com/ which is where you will also find the latest release of Windows Live Mail. You should be able to uninstall MSN Messenger 'Add or Remove Programs' in Control Panel if you have XP, or 'Programs and features' if you have Vista. Search the web for "Uninstall MSN Messenger" if you have trouble uninstalling it. -- Cheers, Peter.R (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare --------------- "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5B25AC28-FC83-462E-A657-9E460EE02B4F@xxxxxx Quote: > Peter - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Things seem to have gone > from bad to worse! First, let me reply to these procedures: > > "To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go: > Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services > [section]->Stop signing in [button]... " > > Done, thanks! > > "To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System > starts, in Messenger, go: > Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live > Messenger when I log on to Windows... > > Also uncheck: > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger > Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a > webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger " > > I don't have a "sign-in" tab or a "security" tab. Could these tabs be > missing because I still have MSN Messenger rather than WLMessenger? Can you > advise how to get rid of MSN Messenger? Do I have to download WLMessenger, > or can I wait until I actually need it for something? > > "Peter.R" wrote: > Quote: >> >> There is no 'Messenger' shortcut at the bottom of the folder pane in the latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail. (14.0.8050.1202). I can't remember if there was one in WLMail 12.0.1606, although I recall one in earlier Beta versions. >> >> To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go: >> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services [section]->Stop signing in [button]... >> >> To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System starts, in Messenger, go: >> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live Messenger when I log on to Windows... >> >> Also uncheck: >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger >> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger >> >> If you are not interested in Instant Messaging, then there is no need for you to run Messenger at all. >> >> I tried Comodo Firewall Pro (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/overview.html) for a while, and found that is really for quite advanced users. In addition, its "Defence+" option can be quite annoying if left enabled, so I disabled it. I am now happy to stick with Zone Alarm free firewall, even though I was recently given Zone Alarm Pro 2009 by Check Point. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Peter.R >> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) >> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare >> --------------- >> >> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message newsE0238F2-FAE8-4E1D-B19A-F6A5F4A3E79A@xxxxxx >> Quote: >> > Also, usually--but not always--when I try to log out of MSN Messenger, it >> > will tell me there are other applications logged in. Are certain programs >> > that I'm using dependent on Messenger to function? Which ones would they be? >> > >> > "Doofus" wrote: >> > >> >> "Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?" >> >> >> >> Only if I don't need it for anything, like other programs. >> >> >> >> "Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?" >> >> >> >> WLM = Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606) >> >> >> >> "Which Spyware might you be concerned ?" >> >> >> >> Don't know--keyloggers, third-party logins? I use an unsecured neighborhood >> >> wi-fi connection when available. I recently switched firewalls from Zone >> >> Alarm to Comodo. My antivirus and anti-spyware is through AVG 8, and I have >> >> added ThreatFire. I'm getting weird messages such as a third party is logged >> >> into my browser (Firefox, Opera), and there's the Messenger issue on WLMail. >> >> Messenger has installed itself as a shortcut in WLMail. Also, there is now a >> >> sign-in when WLMail is launched, where there wasn't one before. And, of >> >> course, I can't make heads or tails out of most of the messages that Comodo >> >> generates. My Weatherbug icon no longer works, and I can no longer receive >> >> internet streaming--audio or A/V. It's just a big mess! >> >> "...winston" wrote: >> >> >> >> > Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ? >> >> > Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ? >> >> > >> >> > Which Spyware might you be concerned ? >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > ...winston >> >> > ms-mvp mail >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72C46F-DA76-48EA-AAE3-D88AFCBE2777@xxxxxx >> Quote: >> >> > > Didn't have messenger on the toolbar until recently. Do I need it? What's >> >> > > it for? If it's not needed, how do I remove it? I just want to send and >> >> > > receive email and don't want spyware in the program. >> >> > > >> >> > > How do I know if my email client has been hacked?
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01-09-2009	#32 (permalink)
...winston n/a posts	Re: Can messenger component be removed from Live Mail? That's new information... In case you missed it, these were asked 4/5 days ago "Which version of Windows Live Messenger are you using ?" "Is Windows Live Mail and MSn Messenger installed ? Apparently the first is none, the second is true. Which is why this response to your post was provided(also 4 days ago) "The majority of the suggestions in this thread are directed at Windows Live Messenger, not Msn Messenger" If you don't need an IM client, then uninstall Msn Messenger - normally in add-remove programs(XP) or programs and features(Vista) If you do need and use MSn Messenger, then if disabling all options in WLM and Msn Messenger doesn't help, then you'll have to live with the current state. -- ...winston ms-mvp mail "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5B25AC28-FC83-462E-A657-9E460EE02B4F@xxxxxx Quote: > Peter - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Things seem to have gone > from bad to worse! First, let me reply to these procedures: > > "To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go: > Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services > [section]->Stop signing in [button]... " > > Done, thanks! > > "To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System > starts, in Messenger, go: > Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live > Messenger when I log on to Windows... > > Also uncheck: > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger > Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a > webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger " > > I don't have a "sign-in" tab or a "security" tab. Could these tabs be > missing because I still have MSN Messenger rather than WLMessenger? Can you > advise how to get rid of MSN Messenger? Do I have to download WLMessenger, > or can I wait until I actually need it for something? > > "Peter.R" wrote: > Quote: >> >> There is no 'Messenger' shortcut at the bottom of the folder pane in the latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail. >> (14.0.8050.1202). I can't remember if there was one in WLMail 12.0.1606, although I recall one in earlier Beta versions. >> >> To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go: >> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services [section]->Stop signing in [button]... >> >> To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System starts, in Messenger, go: >> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live Messenger when I log on to Windows... >> >> Also uncheck: >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger >> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live >> Messenger >> >> If you are not interested in Instant Messaging, then there is no need for you to run Messenger at all. >> >> I tried Comodo Firewall Pro (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/overview.html) for a while, and found that is really for >> quite advanced users. In addition, its "Defence+" option can be quite annoying if left enabled, so I disabled it. I am now happy >> to stick with Zone Alarm free firewall, even though I was recently given Zone Alarm Pro 2009 by Check Point. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Peter.R >> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) >> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare >> --------------- >> >> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message newsE0238F2-FAE8-4E1D-B19A-F6A5F4A3E79A@xxxxxx >> Quote: >> > Also, usually--but not always--when I try to log out of MSN Messenger, it >> > will tell me there are other applications logged in. Are certain programs >> > that I'm using dependent on Messenger to function? Which ones would they be? >> > >> > "Doofus" wrote: >> > >> >> "Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?" >> >> >> >> Only if I don't need it for anything, like other programs. >> >> >> >> "Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?" >> >> >> >> WLM = Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606) >> >> >> >> "Which Spyware might you be concerned ?" >> >> >> >> Don't know--keyloggers, third-party logins? I use an unsecured neighborhood >> >> wi-fi connection when available. I recently switched firewalls from Zone >> >> Alarm to Comodo. My antivirus and anti-spyware is through AVG 8, and I have >> >> added ThreatFire. I'm getting weird messages such as a third party is logged >> >> into my browser (Firefox, Opera), and there's the Messenger issue on WLMail. >> >> Messenger has installed itself as a shortcut in WLMail. Also, there is now a >> >> sign-in when WLMail is launched, where there wasn't one before. And, of >> >> course, I can't make heads or tails out of most of the messages that Comodo >> >> generates. My Weatherbug icon no longer works, and I can no longer receive >> >> internet streaming--audio or A/V. It's just a big mess! >> >> "...winston" wrote: >> >> >> >> > Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ? >> >> > Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ? >> >> > >> >> > Which Spyware might you be concerned ? >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > ...winston >> >> > ms-mvp mail >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72C46F-DA76-48EA-AAE3-D88AFCBE2777@xxxxxx >> Quote: >> >> > > Didn't have messenger on the toolbar until recently. Do I need it? What's >> >> > > it for? If it's not needed, how do I remove it? I just want to send and >> >> > > receive email and don't want spyware in the program. >> >> > > >> >> > > How do I know if my email client has been hacked?
My System Specs

01-09-2009	#33 (permalink)
Doofus n/a posts	Re: Can messenger component be removed from Live Mail? Hi Peter - I uninstalled MSN Messenger. Now I can't log into MSN (and can't access email) until I install the "latest version of MSN Messenger. http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...ermustbein.jpg What's next? "Peter.R" wrote: Quote: > Yes, that would be because I am looking at the latest version of Windows Live Mail, whereas it appears you have the redundant MSN Messenger. > > I do suggest that you uninstall MSN Messenger since you have no need for it. If you decide that you want Windows Live Messenger, you can download it as part of the Windows Live Essentials suite at http://download.live.com/ which is where you will also find the latest release of Windows Live Mail. > > You should be able to uninstall MSN Messenger 'Add or Remove Programs' in Control Panel if you have XP, or 'Programs and features' if you have Vista. > > Search the web for "Uninstall MSN Messenger" if you have trouble uninstalling it. > > -- > Cheers, > Peter.R > (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) > "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare > --------------- > > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5B25AC28-FC83-462E-A657-9E460EE02B4F@xxxxxx > Quote: > > Peter - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Things seem to have gone > > from bad to worse! First, let me reply to these procedures: > > > > "To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go: > > Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services > > [section]->Stop signing in [button]... " > > > > Done, thanks! > > > > "To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System > > starts, in Messenger, go: > > Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live > > Messenger when I log on to Windows... > > > > Also uncheck: > > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet > > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger > > Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a > > webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger " > > > > I don't have a "sign-in" tab or a "security" tab. Could these tabs be > > missing because I still have MSN Messenger rather than WLMessenger? Can you > > advise how to get rid of MSN Messenger? Do I have to download WLMessenger, > > or can I wait until I actually need it for something? > > > > "Peter.R" wrote: > > Quote: > >> > >> There is no 'Messenger' shortcut at the bottom of the folder pane in the latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail. (14.0.8050.1202). I can't remember if there was one in WLMail 12.0.1606, although I recall one in earlier Beta versions. > >> > >> To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go: > >> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services [section]->Stop signing in [button]... > >> > >> To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System starts, in Messenger, go: > >> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live Messenger when I log on to Windows... > >> > >> Also uncheck: > >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet > >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger > >> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger > >> > >> If you are not interested in Instant Messaging, then there is no need for you to run Messenger at all. > >> > >> I tried Comodo Firewall Pro (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/overview.html) for a while, and found that is really for quite advanced users. In addition, its "Defence+" option can be quite annoying if left enabled, so I disabled it. I am now happy to stick with Zone Alarm free firewall, even though I was recently given Zone Alarm Pro 2009 by Check Point. > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers, > >> Peter.R > >> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) > >> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare > >> --------------- > >> > >> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message newsE0238F2-FAE8-4E1D-B19A-F6A5F4A3E79A@xxxxxx > >> > >> > Also, usually--but not always--when I try to log out of MSN Messenger, it > >> > will tell me there are other applications logged in. Are certain programs > >> > that I'm using dependent on Messenger to function? Which ones would they be? > >> > > >> > "Doofus" wrote: > >> > > >> >> "Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?" > >> >> > >> >> Only if I don't need it for anything, like other programs. > >> >> > >> >> "Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?" > >> >> > >> >> WLM = Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606) > >> >> > >> >> "Which Spyware might you be concerned ?" > >> >> > >> >> Don't know--keyloggers, third-party logins? I use an unsecured neighborhood > >> >> wi-fi connection when available. I recently switched firewalls from Zone > >> >> Alarm to Comodo. My antivirus and anti-spyware is through AVG 8, and I have > >> >> added ThreatFire. I'm getting weird messages such as a third party is logged > >> >> into my browser (Firefox, Opera), and there's the Messenger issue on WLMail. > >> >> Messenger has installed itself as a shortcut in WLMail. Also, there is now a > >> >> sign-in when WLMail is launched, where there wasn't one before. And, of > >> >> course, I can't make heads or tails out of most of the messages that Comodo > >> >> generates. My Weatherbug icon no longer works, and I can no longer receive > >> >> internet streaming--audio or A/V. It's just a big mess! > >> >> "...winston" wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ? > >> >> > Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ? > >> >> > > >> >> > Which Spyware might you be concerned ? > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > ...winston > >> >> > ms-mvp mail > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72C46F-DA76-48EA-AAE3-D88AFCBE2777@xxxxxx > >> > >> >> > > Didn't have messenger on the toolbar until recently. Do I need it? What's > >> >> > > it for? If it's not needed, how do I remove it? I just want to send and > >> >> > > receive email and don't want spyware in the program. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > How do I know if my email client has been hacked?
My System Specs

01-10-2009	#34 (permalink)
Peter.R n/a posts	Re: Can messenger component be removed from Live Mail? It would appear that you are using MSN Explorer, and that it integrates with Messenger. I have never used MSN Explorer, but I believe that Messenger is automatically started (and maybe even signed in) when you run MSN Explorer. Thus, if you want/need to continue using MSN Explorer, you will have to install Windows Live Messenger. It is available through the Windows Live Essentials suite installer available at http://download.live.com/ You should upgrade Windows Live Mail when you install Windows Live Messenger. They are both part of the Windows Live Essentials suite. -- Cheers, Peter.R (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare --------------- "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:4998604E-60C9-43A8-AAEE-17084DD51B67@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi Peter - I uninstalled MSN Messenger. Now I can't log into MSN (and can't > access email) until I install the "latest version of MSN Messenger. > http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...ermustbein.jpg > What's next? > > "Peter.R" wrote: > Quote: >> Yes, that would be because I am looking at the latest version of Windows Live Mail, whereas it appears you have the redundant MSN Messenger. >> >> I do suggest that you uninstall MSN Messenger since you have no need for it. If you decide that you want Windows Live Messenger, you can download it as part of the Windows Live Essentials suite at http://download.live.com/ which is where you will also find the latest release of Windows Live Mail. >> >> You should be able to uninstall MSN Messenger 'Add or Remove Programs' in Control Panel if you have XP, or 'Programs and features' if you have Vista. >> >> Search the web for "Uninstall MSN Messenger" if you have trouble uninstalling it. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Peter.R >> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) >> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare >> --------------- >> >> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5B25AC28-FC83-462E-A657-9E460EE02B4F@xxxxxx >> Quote: >> > Peter - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Things seem to have gone >> > from bad to worse! First, let me reply to these procedures: >> > >> > "To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go: >> > Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services >> > [section]->Stop signing in [button]... " >> > >> > Done, thanks! >> > >> > "To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System >> > starts, in Messenger, go: >> > Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live >> > Messenger when I log on to Windows... >> > >> > Also uncheck: >> > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet >> > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger >> > Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a >> > webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger " >> > >> > I don't have a "sign-in" tab or a "security" tab. Could these tabs be >> > missing because I still have MSN Messenger rather than WLMessenger? Can you >> > advise how to get rid of MSN Messenger? Do I have to download WLMessenger, >> > or can I wait until I actually need it for something? >> > >> > "Peter.R" wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> There is no 'Messenger' shortcut at the bottom of the folder pane in the latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail. (14.0.8050.1202). I can't remember if there was one in WLMail 12.0.1606, although I recall one in earlier Beta versions. >> >> >> >> To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go: >> >> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services [section]->Stop signing in [button]... >> >> >> >> To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System starts, in Messenger, go: >> >> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live Messenger when I log on to Windows... >> >> >> >> Also uncheck: >> >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet >> >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger >> >> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger >> >> >> >> If you are not interested in Instant Messaging, then there is no need for you to run Messenger at all. >> >> >> >> I tried Comodo Firewall Pro (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/overview.html) for a while, and found that is really for quite advanced users. In addition, its "Defence+" option can be quite annoying if left enabled, so I disabled it. I am now happy to stick with Zone Alarm free firewall, even though I was recently given Zone Alarm Pro 2009 by Check Point. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Cheers, >> >> Peter.R >> >> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) >> >> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare >> >> --------------- >> >> >> >> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message newsE0238F2-FAE8-4E1D-B19A-F6A5F4A3E79A@xxxxxx >> >> >> >> > Also, usually--but not always--when I try to log out of MSN Messenger, it >> >> > will tell me there are other applications logged in. Are certain programs >> >> > that I'm using dependent on Messenger to function? Which ones would they be? >> >> > >> >> > "Doofus" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> "Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?" >> >> >> >> >> >> Only if I don't need it for anything, like other programs. >> >> >> >> >> >> "Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?" >> >> >> >> >> >> WLM = Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606) >> >> >> >> >> >> "Which Spyware might you be concerned ?" >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't know--keyloggers, third-party logins? I use an unsecured neighborhood >> >> >> wi-fi connection when available. I recently switched firewalls from Zone >> >> >> Alarm to Comodo. My antivirus and anti-spyware is through AVG 8, and I have >> >> >> added ThreatFire. I'm getting weird messages such as a third party is logged >> >> >> into my browser (Firefox, Opera), and there's the Messenger issue on WLMail. >> >> >> Messenger has installed itself as a shortcut in WLMail. Also, there is now a >> >> >> sign-in when WLMail is launched, where there wasn't one before. And, of >> >> >> course, I can't make heads or tails out of most of the messages that Comodo >> >> >> generates. My Weatherbug icon no longer works, and I can no longer receive >> >> >> internet streaming--audio or A/V. It's just a big mess! >> >> >> "...winston" wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ? >> >> >> > Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Which Spyware might you be concerned ? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > ...winston >> >> >> > ms-mvp mail >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72C46F-DA76-48EA-AAE3-D88AFCBE2777@xxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> > > Didn't have messenger on the toolbar until recently. Do I need it? What's >> >> >> > > it for? If it's not needed, how do I remove it? I just want to send and >> >> >> > > receive email and don't want spyware in the program. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > How do I know if my email client has been hacked?
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01-10-2009	#35 (permalink)
...winston n/a posts	Re: Can messenger component be removed from Live Mail? Cross posted to the public.msn.discussion group for exposure to Msn Explorer/Msn Premium users -- ...winston ms-mvp mail "Peter.R" <Peter.R@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e180eHvcJHA.936@xxxxxx Quote: > It would appear that you are using MSN Explorer, and that it integrates with Messenger. > > I have never used MSN Explorer, but I believe that Messenger is automatically started (and maybe even signed in) when you run MSN > Explorer. > > Thus, if you want/need to continue using MSN Explorer, you will have to install Windows Live Messenger. > > It is available through the Windows Live Essentials suite installer available at http://download.live.com/ > > You should upgrade Windows Live Mail when you install Windows Live Messenger. They are both part of the Windows Live Essentials > suite. > > -- > Cheers, > Peter.R > (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) > "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare > --------------- > > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:4998604E-60C9-43A8-AAEE-17084DD51B67@xxxxxx > Quote: >> Hi Peter - I uninstalled MSN Messenger. Now I can't log into MSN (and can't >> access email) until I install the "latest version of MSN Messenger. >> http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...ermustbein.jpg >> What's next? >> >> "Peter.R" wrote: >> Quote: >>> Yes, that would be because I am looking at the latest version of Windows Live Mail, whereas it appears you have the redundant >>> MSN Messenger. >>> >>> I do suggest that you uninstall MSN Messenger since you have no need for it. If you decide that you want Windows Live >>> Messenger, you can download it as part of the Windows Live Essentials suite at http://download.live.com/ which is where you >>> will also find the latest release of Windows Live Mail. >>> >>> You should be able to uninstall MSN Messenger 'Add or Remove Programs' in Control Panel if you have XP, or 'Programs and >>> features' if you have Vista. >>> >>> Search the web for "Uninstall MSN Messenger" if you have trouble uninstalling it. >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Peter.R >>> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) >>> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare >>> --------------- >>> >>> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5B25AC28-FC83-462E-A657-9E460EE02B4F@xxxxxx >>> >>> > Peter - Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Things seem to have gone >>> > from bad to worse! First, let me reply to these procedures: >>> > >>> > "To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go: >>> > Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services >>> > [section]->Stop signing in [button]... " >>> > >>> > Done, thanks! >>> > >>> > "To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System >>> > starts, in Messenger, go: >>> > Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live >>> > Messenger when I log on to Windows... >>> > >>> > Also uncheck: >>> > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet >>> > Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger >>> > Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a >>> > webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live Messenger " >>> > >>> > I don't have a "sign-in" tab or a "security" tab. Could these tabs be >>> > missing because I still have MSN Messenger rather than WLMessenger? Can you >>> > advise how to get rid of MSN Messenger? Do I have to download WLMessenger, >>> > or can I wait until I actually need it for something? >>> > >>> > "Peter.R" wrote: >>> > >>> >> >>> >> There is no 'Messenger' shortcut at the bottom of the folder pane in the latest Beta version of Windows Live Mail. >>> >> (14.0.8050.1202). I can't remember if there was one in WLMail 12.0.1606, although I recall one in earlier Beta versions. >>> >> >>> >> To prevent WLMail from signing into Windows Live upon start-up, in WLMail go: >>> >> Tools->Options->Connection [tab]->Connection to Windows Live services [section]->Stop signing in [button]... >>> >> >>> >> To prevent Messenger from starting automatically when Operating System starts, in Messenger, go: >>> >> Tools->Options->Sign In [tab]->[uncheck] Automatically run Windows Live Messenger when I log on to Windows... >>> >> >>> >> Also uncheck: >>> >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Allow automatic sign in when connected to the Internet >>> >> Sign In [tab]->[ ] Show Windows Live Today after I sign in to Messenger >>> >> Security [tab]->[ ] Open Windows Live Messenger when I click a link on a webpage that tries to interact with Windows Live >>> >> Messenger >>> >> >>> >> If you are not interested in Instant Messaging, then there is no need for you to run Messenger at all. >>> >> >>> >> I tried Comodo Firewall Pro (http://www.personalfirewall.comodo.com/overview.html) for a while, and found that is really for >>> >> quite advanced users. In addition, its "Defence+" option can be quite annoying if left enabled, so I disabled it. I am now >>> >> happy to stick with Zone Alarm free firewall, even though I was recently given Zone Alarm Pro 2009 by Check Point. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Cheers, >>> >> Peter.R >>> >> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 14.0.8050.1202) >>> >> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare >>> >> --------------- >>> >> >>> >> "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message newsE0238F2-FAE8-4E1D-B19A-F6A5F4A3E79A@xxxxxx >>> >> >>> >> > Also, usually--but not always--when I try to log out of MSN Messenger, it >>> >> > will tell me there are other applications logged in. Are certain programs >>> >> > that I'm using dependent on Messenger to function? Which ones would they be? >>> >> > >>> >> > "Doofus" wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> "Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ?" >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Only if I don't need it for anything, like other programs. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ?" >>> >> >> >>> >> >> WLM = Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1606) >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "Which Spyware might you be concerned ?" >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Don't know--keyloggers, third-party logins? I use an unsecured neighborhood >>> >> >> wi-fi connection when available. I recently switched firewalls from Zone >>> >> >> Alarm to Comodo. My antivirus and anti-spyware is through AVG 8, and I have >>> >> >> added ThreatFire. I'm getting weird messages such as a third party is logged >>> >> >> into my browser (Firefox, Opera), and there's the Messenger issue on WLMail. >>> >> >> Messenger has installed itself as a shortcut in WLMail. Also, there is now a >>> >> >> sign-in when WLMail is launched, where there wasn't one before. And, of >>> >> >> course, I can't make heads or tails out of most of the messages that Comodo >>> >> >> generates. My Weatherbug icon no longer works, and I can no longer receive >>> >> >> internet streaming--audio or A/V. It's just a big mess! >>> >> >> "...winston" wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > Do you wish to uninstall Messenger from your system ? >>> >> >> > Which version of WLMail or WLMsgr is installed ? >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Which Spyware might you be concerned ? >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > -- >>> >> >> > ...winston >>> >> >> > ms-mvp mail >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > "Doofus" <Doofus@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EA72C46F-DA76-48EA-AAE3-D88AFCBE2777@xxxxxx >>> >> >>> >> >> > > Didn't have messenger on the toolbar until recently. Do I need it? What's >>> >> >> > > it for? If it's not needed, how do I remove it? I just want to send and >>> >> >> > > receive email and don't want spyware in the program. >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > How do I know if my email client has been hacked?
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