Vista - Inconsistent window behaviour

I haven't seen anyone comment on this curious behaviour of the beta
(I'm using 14.0.8050.1202 on XPSP3), so I will.
In earlier versions, everything (mail, feeds, news) opened in the
program window except Contacts, which opened in their own window.
(Message windows are also separate, but that's what I would expect.)
We soon got used to that. Then, in v.14, the Contacts icon in the
folder pane got usurped by Calendar and shoved over to the right. I
click Calendar and my calendar appears. I fiddle with it, then close
it - and find that I've shut the program down. My instinct told me
that Calendar would behave like Contacts, as an accessory to the
communications bit, but it doesn't. I find this very annoying - does
anyone else?

On a related issue, several times I have experienced that closing
the Contacts window closes everything down - no error, nothing. The
whole program disappears and is not running when I check task
manager. Next time I open the program, I'm told it didn't close down
properly and would I like to view the message I was viewing at the
time. Is it just me?
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Noel

Hi, Noel.

Yes! (I mean, No, it's not just you.) I'm glad you brought this up.

Several times I have been shocked by the abrupt closure of the whole WLM
program when all I wanted to do was close the Contacts window and go back to
reading mail or newsgroups. :>(

As it says in my Sig, I'm using build 1202 in Win7 build 6801.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2009 1202 in Win7 x64 6801)

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"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ecthh6ybJHA.1704@xxxxxx
But your instinct is ignoring how you switched to the Calendar mode?


Since you opened it by using a mode button at the bottom
(e.g. Mail Feeds or News) it seems consistent to me...

OIC. (I never use Contacts. <w>) That's the inconsistency.
It's a tool, not a mode. So, it should be in the Toolbar or
in the Tools menu not down there.


Sounds like a crash. Check the log? Are you inhibiting crash
reports?

See also my earlier reply to your Newsgroup Actions thread.


Robert
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Hi, RC! Thanks for your comment - I'm glad I'm not alone. The
problem is, I don't know how to reproduce the problem. It happens
'sometimes', but I haven't yet found a consistent scenario. And I'm
too lazy a beta tester to note down every move I make...
--
Noel

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"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yeah, it's Contacts that's anomalous, but as I said, we got used to
that.
'No error, nothing' was meant to convey that no error report was
generated - and RC's post confirms that this is not a 'one-off'.
This is one aspect of the program that could do with a bit of work;
one of the crashes I mentioned did indeed generate an event, but
without a description, which is pretty useless.
Yes, thanks - I'm still digesting your wisdom and clicking wildly to
see what happens. What I find so surprising is that here are dozens
of settings combinations without a word of documentation anywhere,
but your postings are telling me that this is all pretty much the
same as it was in OE. So the devs are clearly thinking that if the
user doesn't know what it does, he doesn't need to know and can make
do with the defaults. Pretty arrogant.
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Noel

I'll grant you that the fact that closing the Calendar closes
WLM is a bit unexpected, but after you do it once, one gets
used to that behavior fairly quickly.

I've never experienced a closing of WLM when closing Contacts.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ecthh6ybJHA.1704@xxxxxx

Hi, Gary - and Noel.

Methinks I misspoke when I said that closing Contacts also closes WLM. In
fact,
the opposite is true: With Contacts open, I can close WLM and the Contacts
window remains open. I can't try that trick with Calendar, because when the
Calendar is open, there's no way to see the main WLM screen - no way to get
to its "X" to close it without switching away from the Calendar.

In other words, we can have both the Mail (or News) window AND the Contacts
window open at the same time. But with Calendar, it's either Calendar OR
Mail, not both at the same time - and closing either one closes both.

Note that the Win7 Taskbar icons are consistent with this behavior: Right
now, I see both the WLContacts icon and the WLMail icon on the Taskbar. But
when I click the Calendar icon on the WLM window, the WLMail icon on the
Taskbar disappears and is replaced by the WLCalendar icon. The additional
icon for this Compose window remains.

This is all in WLMail 1202 on Win7 build 6801.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2009 1202 in Win7 x64 6801)

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