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01-16-2009
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| | how can you share store folder with different OS I am setup with with multiple OS's on separate partitions. With outlook express I could point each OS to the same store folder with no trouble. I am having trouble doing this with WLM. All accounts become corrupt when using the same store location. If anyone knows how to do this, or make good old outlook express work with windows 7 beta I would really appreciate the info. Thanks |
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01-17-2009
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| | Re: how can you share store folder with different OS Corruption as you found seems to be the norm...usually resulting from a variety of reasons and some probably still unknown. -- winston ms-mvp mail "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:01E166DF-6FC2-42F5-977A-80B57D4F1B04@xxxxxx Quote: > I am setup with with multiple OS's on separate partitions. With outlook > express I could point each OS to the same store folder with no trouble. I am > having trouble doing this with WLM. All accounts become corrupt when using > the same store location. > > If anyone knows how to do this, or make good old outlook express work with > windows 7 beta I would really appreciate the info. > > Thanks > > |
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01-17-2009
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| | Re: how can you share store folder with different OS On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:45:00 -0800, SkyDog wrote: Quote: > I am setup with with multiple OS's on separate partitions. With outlook > express I could point each OS to the same store folder with no trouble. I am > having trouble doing this with WLM. All accounts become corrupt when using > the same store location. > > If anyone knows how to do this, or make good old outlook express work with > windows 7 beta I would really appreciate the info. any way to make MSOE work with Windows Vista, or Windows 7 beta; I don't think it is possible. -- Norman ~Oh Lord, why have you come ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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01-17-2009
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| | Re: how can you share store folder with different OS Hi, SkyDog. I've been trying for about 10 years to share Message Stores between different Windows versions - with limited success. I've not yet been able to share WLM's Message Store between Vista and Win7 beta. If you find a way, please let us all know. But I would never expect to share a Store between OE and WM or WLM because the stores are structured completely differently. OE stored many individual messages in a single .dbx file called a "folder". WM and WLM store each message as a separate .eml (email) or .nws (newsgroup) file. So a thousand 4 KB emails from your Mom might be stored as a single 4 MB Family.dbx file in OE, but as 1,000 separate 4 KB .eml files in WM or WLM. You can Import the OE messages into WM/WLM, but it would be impossible to simply "share" the Message Stores between the two email clients. Even with WLM in both Vista Ultimate x64 and Win7 Ultimate x64, sharing of the Message Store doesn't work. I'm not techie enough to understand why, but when I try pointing both WLMs to the same Message Store, it works only until I reboot into the other OS - and then I have to deal with missing passwords, plus weird contents in some Imported folders, and other strange results. So far, it just hasn't worked well at all. :>( But the Message Store can grow quite large and I hope we can eventually share it between OSes. Even though I have lots of HD space at the moment, having multiple stores is a waste of space. I can share Quicken by installing it multiple times into the same "neutral" volume and folder (E:\Quicken), letting each OS make entries into its own Registry. But that hasn't yet worked for WLM. So I must carefully preserve the contents of multiple Sent Items folders, be sure to "Leave messages on server" in both OSes and boot into each of them frequently to keep each store complete, and try to keep my Storage Folders names the same on the different OSes. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc@xxxxxx Microsoft Windows MVP (Running Windows Live Mail 2009 in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000) "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:01E166DF-6FC2-42F5-977A-80B57D4F1B04@xxxxxx Quote: > I am setup with with multiple OS's on separate partitions. With outlook > express I could point each OS to the same store folder with no trouble. I > am > having trouble doing this with WLM. All accounts become corrupt when using > the same store location. > > If anyone knows how to do this, or make good old outlook express work with > windows 7 beta I would really appreciate the info. > > Thanks |
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01-18-2009
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| | Re: how can you share store folder with different OS Ok, so the reason I must be able to do it is because it is different installations of the same OS on different partitions. In this case the fact that that it is a different OS is the problem. Thank you for bringing that to light, lol. It's amazing how frustration can cloud one's ability to think.... "R. C. White" wrote: Quote: > Hi, SkyDog. > > I've been trying for about 10 years to share Message Stores between > different Windows versions - with limited success. I've not yet been able > to share WLM's Message Store between Vista and Win7 beta. If you find a > way, please let us all know. > > But I would never expect to share a Store between OE and WM or WLM because > the stores are structured completely differently. OE stored many individual > messages in a single .dbx file called a "folder". WM and WLM store each > message as a separate .eml (email) or .nws (newsgroup) file. So a thousand > 4 KB emails from your Mom might be stored as a single 4 MB Family.dbx file > in OE, but as 1,000 separate 4 KB .eml files in WM or WLM. You can Import > the OE messages into WM/WLM, but it would be impossible to simply "share" > the Message Stores between the two email clients. > > Even with WLM in both Vista Ultimate x64 and Win7 Ultimate x64, sharing of > the Message Store doesn't work. I'm not techie enough to understand why, > but when I try pointing both WLMs to the same Message Store, it works only > until I reboot into the other OS - and then I have to deal with missing > passwords, plus weird contents in some Imported folders, and other strange > results. So far, it just hasn't worked well at all. :>( > > But the Message Store can grow quite large and I hope we can eventually > share it between OSes. Even though I have lots of HD space at the moment, > having multiple stores is a waste of space. I can share Quicken by > installing it multiple times into the same "neutral" volume and folder > (E:\Quicken), letting each OS make entries into its own Registry. But that > hasn't yet worked for WLM. So I must carefully preserve the contents of > multiple Sent Items folders, be sure to "Leave messages on server" in both > OSes and boot into each of them frequently to keep each store complete, and > try to keep my Storage Folders names the same on the different OSes. > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > rc@xxxxxx > Microsoft Windows MVP > (Running Windows Live Mail 2009 in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000) > > "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:01E166DF-6FC2-42F5-977A-80B57D4F1B04@xxxxxx Quote: > > I am setup with with multiple OS's on separate partitions. With outlook > > express I could point each OS to the same store folder with no trouble. I > > am > > having trouble doing this with WLM. All accounts become corrupt when using > > the same store location. > > > > If anyone knows how to do this, or make good old outlook express work with > > windows 7 beta I would really appreciate the info. > > > > Thanks > |
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01-19-2009
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| | Re: how can you share store folder with different OS Hi, SkyDog. Quote: > In this case the fact that that it is a different OS is the problem. I've not yet tried to share a WLM Message Store between different installations of Win7 (or of Vista). During the long Vista beat, I switched often between 32-bit and 64-bit versions of WinXP and the latest Vista build; that was fun for a while but it got very old! I'm now happily using a single OS (Win7 beta) practically fulltime with only occasional switching to Vista. And I haven't run WinXP - or OE - in years. As you probably know, Win7 comes with NO mail or newsgroup client at all. WinXP has OE built in; Vista has WM built in. With either, we can add Outlook or WLM or one of the many third-party products. With Win7, we MUST install a separate mail or news client or do without any mail or newsgroups. I do have a second Win7 Ultimate x64 installed on another partition. It's a barebones installation and I haven't put WLM on it yet, so I can't test whether two Win7's can share the same store. MAYBE I'll have time to try that in the next week or two. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX rc@xxxxxx Microsoft Windows MVP (Running Windows Live Mail 2009 in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000) "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:9A2AA258-3758-4917-AA36-0EF67C57E50C@xxxxxx Quote: > > Ok, so the reason I must be able to do it is because it is different > installations of the same OS on different partitions. > > In this case the fact that that it is a different OS is the problem. > > Thank you for bringing that to light, lol. It's amazing how frustration > can > cloud one's ability to think.... > > > "R. C. White" wrote: > Quote: >> Hi, SkyDog. >> >> I've been trying for about 10 years to share Message Stores between >> different Windows versions - with limited success. I've not yet been >> able >> to share WLM's Message Store between Vista and Win7 beta. If you find a >> way, please let us all know. >> >> But I would never expect to share a Store between OE and WM or WLM >> because >> the stores are structured completely differently. OE stored many >> individual >> messages in a single .dbx file called a "folder". WM and WLM store each >> message as a separate .eml (email) or .nws (newsgroup) file. So a >> thousand >> 4 KB emails from your Mom might be stored as a single 4 MB Family.dbx >> file >> in OE, but as 1,000 separate 4 KB .eml files in WM or WLM. You can >> Import >> the OE messages into WM/WLM, but it would be impossible to simply "share" >> the Message Stores between the two email clients. >> >> Even with WLM in both Vista Ultimate x64 and Win7 Ultimate x64, sharing >> of >> the Message Store doesn't work. I'm not techie enough to understand why, >> but when I try pointing both WLMs to the same Message Store, it works >> only >> until I reboot into the other OS - and then I have to deal with missing >> passwords, plus weird contents in some Imported folders, and other >> strange >> results. So far, it just hasn't worked well at all. :>( >> >> But the Message Store can grow quite large and I hope we can eventually >> share it between OSes. Even though I have lots of HD space at the >> moment, >> having multiple stores is a waste of space. I can share Quicken by >> installing it multiple times into the same "neutral" volume and folder >> (E:\Quicken), letting each OS make entries into its own Registry. But >> that >> hasn't yet worked for WLM. So I must carefully preserve the contents of >> multiple Sent Items folders, be sure to "Leave messages on server" in >> both >> OSes and boot into each of them frequently to keep each store complete, >> and >> try to keep my Storage Folders names the same on the different OSes. >> >> RC >> >> "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:01E166DF-6FC2-42F5-977A-80B57D4F1B04@xxxxxx Quote: >> > I am setup with with multiple OS's on separate partitions. With outlook >> > express I could point each OS to the same store folder with no trouble. >> > I >> > am >> > having trouble doing this with WLM. All accounts become corrupt when >> > using >> > the same store location. >> > >> > If anyone knows how to do this, or make good old outlook express work >> > with >> > windows 7 beta I would really appreciate the info. >> > >> > Thanks |
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01-19-2009
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| | Re: how can you share store folder with different OS Hello, I have done it for Windows Mail and that works fine. http://dechily.org/Forum_Aski/topic49.html I'm testing a similar method applied to Windows Live Mail. I use it for my PC a multi-boot Vista SP1, Vista SP2 and Seven. I have had some troubles .... and I am looking for an explanation. -- Regards Aski MVP Windows Desktop Experience "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion : 2D34F5FF-2650-4318-9314-6DBE0B6C5BCD@xxxxxx... Quote: > Hi, SkyDog. > Quote: >> In this case the fact that that it is a different OS is the problem. > Maybe. > > I've not yet tried to share a WLM Message Store between different > installations of Win7 (or of Vista). During the long Vista beat, I > switched often between 32-bit and 64-bit versions of WinXP and the latest > Vista build; that was fun for a while but it got very old! I'm now > happily using a single OS (Win7 beta) practically fulltime with only > occasional switching to Vista. And I haven't run WinXP - or OE - in > years. > > As you probably know, Win7 comes with NO mail or newsgroup client at all. > WinXP has OE built in; Vista has WM built in. With either, we can add > Outlook or WLM or one of the many third-party products. With Win7, we > MUST install a separate mail or news client or do without any mail or > newsgroups. > > I do have a second Win7 Ultimate x64 installed on another partition. It's > a barebones installation and I haven't put WLM on it yet, so I can't test > whether two Win7's can share the same store. MAYBE I'll have time to try > that in the next week or two. > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > rc@xxxxxx > Microsoft Windows MVP > (Running Windows Live Mail 2009 in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000) > > "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:9A2AA258-3758-4917-AA36-0EF67C57E50C@xxxxxx Quote: >> >> Ok, so the reason I must be able to do it is because it is different >> installations of the same OS on different partitions. >> >> In this case the fact that that it is a different OS is the problem. >> >> Thank you for bringing that to light, lol. It's amazing how frustration >> can >> cloud one's ability to think.... >> >> >> "R. C. White" wrote: >> Quote: >>> Hi, SkyDog. >>> >>> I've been trying for about 10 years to share Message Stores between >>> different Windows versions - with limited success. I've not yet been >>> able >>> to share WLM's Message Store between Vista and Win7 beta. If you find a >>> way, please let us all know. >>> >>> But I would never expect to share a Store between OE and WM or WLM >>> because >>> the stores are structured completely differently. OE stored many >>> individual >>> messages in a single .dbx file called a "folder". WM and WLM store each >>> message as a separate .eml (email) or .nws (newsgroup) file. So a >>> thousand >>> 4 KB emails from your Mom might be stored as a single 4 MB Family.dbx >>> file >>> in OE, but as 1,000 separate 4 KB .eml files in WM or WLM. You can >>> Import >>> the OE messages into WM/WLM, but it would be impossible to simply >>> "share" >>> the Message Stores between the two email clients. >>> >>> Even with WLM in both Vista Ultimate x64 and Win7 Ultimate x64, sharing >>> of >>> the Message Store doesn't work. I'm not techie enough to understand >>> why, >>> but when I try pointing both WLMs to the same Message Store, it works >>> only >>> until I reboot into the other OS - and then I have to deal with missing >>> passwords, plus weird contents in some Imported folders, and other >>> strange >>> results. So far, it just hasn't worked well at all. :>( >>> >>> But the Message Store can grow quite large and I hope we can eventually >>> share it between OSes. Even though I have lots of HD space at the >>> moment, >>> having multiple stores is a waste of space. I can share Quicken by >>> installing it multiple times into the same "neutral" volume and folder >>> (E:\Quicken), letting each OS make entries into its own Registry. But >>> that >>> hasn't yet worked for WLM. So I must carefully preserve the contents of >>> multiple Sent Items folders, be sure to "Leave messages on server" in >>> both >>> OSes and boot into each of them frequently to keep each store complete, >>> and >>> try to keep my Storage Folders names the same on the different OSes. >>> >>> RC >>> >>> "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:01E166DF-6FC2-42F5-977A-80B57D4F1B04@xxxxxx >>> > I am setup with with multiple OS's on separate partitions. With >>> > outlook >>> > express I could point each OS to the same store folder with no >>> > trouble. I >>> > am >>> > having trouble doing this with WLM. All accounts become corrupt when >>> > using >>> > the same store location. >>> > >>> > If anyone knows how to do this, or make good old outlook express work >>> > with >>> > windows 7 beta I would really appreciate the info. >>> > >>> > Thanks |
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01-19-2009
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| | Re: how can you share store folder with different OS In the past, we found that sharing a message store always results in the passwords being corrupted. -- Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail) "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:2D34F5FF-2650-4318-9314-6DBE0B6C5BCD@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi, SkyDog. > Quote: >> In this case the fact that that it is a different OS is the problem. > Maybe. > > I've not yet tried to share a WLM Message Store between different > installations of Win7 (or of Vista). During the long Vista beat, I switched > often between 32-bit and 64-bit versions of WinXP and the latest Vista > build; that was fun for a while but it got very old! I'm now happily using > a single OS (Win7 beta) practically fulltime with only occasional switching > to Vista. And I haven't run WinXP - or OE - in years. > > As you probably know, Win7 comes with NO mail or newsgroup client at all. > WinXP has OE built in; Vista has WM built in. With either, we can add > Outlook or WLM or one of the many third-party products. With Win7, we MUST > install a separate mail or news client or do without any mail or newsgroups. > > I do have a second Win7 Ultimate x64 installed on another partition. It's a > barebones installation and I haven't put WLM on it yet, so I can't test > whether two Win7's can share the same store. MAYBE I'll have time to try > that in the next week or two. > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > rc@xxxxxx > Microsoft Windows MVP > (Running Windows Live Mail 2009 in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000) > > "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:9A2AA258-3758-4917-AA36-0EF67C57E50C@xxxxxx Quote: >> >> Ok, so the reason I must be able to do it is because it is different >> installations of the same OS on different partitions. >> >> In this case the fact that that it is a different OS is the problem. >> >> Thank you for bringing that to light, lol. It's amazing how frustration >> can >> cloud one's ability to think.... >> >> >> "R. C. White" wrote: >> Quote: >>> Hi, SkyDog. >>> >>> I've been trying for about 10 years to share Message Stores between >>> different Windows versions - with limited success. I've not yet been >>> able >>> to share WLM's Message Store between Vista and Win7 beta. If you find a >>> way, please let us all know. >>> >>> But I would never expect to share a Store between OE and WM or WLM >>> because >>> the stores are structured completely differently. OE stored many >>> individual >>> messages in a single .dbx file called a "folder". WM and WLM store each >>> message as a separate .eml (email) or .nws (newsgroup) file. So a >>> thousand >>> 4 KB emails from your Mom might be stored as a single 4 MB Family.dbx >>> file >>> in OE, but as 1,000 separate 4 KB .eml files in WM or WLM. You can >>> Import >>> the OE messages into WM/WLM, but it would be impossible to simply "share" >>> the Message Stores between the two email clients. >>> >>> Even with WLM in both Vista Ultimate x64 and Win7 Ultimate x64, sharing >>> of >>> the Message Store doesn't work. I'm not techie enough to understand why, >>> but when I try pointing both WLMs to the same Message Store, it works >>> only >>> until I reboot into the other OS - and then I have to deal with missing >>> passwords, plus weird contents in some Imported folders, and other >>> strange >>> results. So far, it just hasn't worked well at all. :>( >>> >>> But the Message Store can grow quite large and I hope we can eventually >>> share it between OSes. Even though I have lots of HD space at the >>> moment, >>> having multiple stores is a waste of space. I can share Quicken by >>> installing it multiple times into the same "neutral" volume and folder >>> (E:\Quicken), letting each OS make entries into its own Registry. But >>> that >>> hasn't yet worked for WLM. So I must carefully preserve the contents of >>> multiple Sent Items folders, be sure to "Leave messages on server" in >>> both >>> OSes and boot into each of them frequently to keep each store complete, >>> and >>> try to keep my Storage Folders names the same on the different OSes. >>> >>> RC >>> >>> "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:01E166DF-6FC2-42F5-977A-80B57D4F1B04@xxxxxx >>> > I am setup with with multiple OS's on separate partitions. With outlook >>> > express I could point each OS to the same store folder with no trouble. >>> > I >>> > am >>> > having trouble doing this with WLM. All accounts become corrupt when >>> > using >>> > the same store location. >>> > >>> > If anyone knows how to do this, or make good old outlook express work >>> > with >>> > windows 7 beta I would really appreciate the info. >>> > >>> > Thanks |
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01-23-2009
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| | Re: how can you share store folder with different OS "R. C. White" wrote: Quote: > Hi, SkyDog. > Quote: > > In this case the fact that that it is a different OS is the problem. > Maybe. > > I've not yet tried to share a WLM Message Store between different > installations of Win7 (or of Vista). During the long Vista beat, I switched > often between 32-bit and 64-bit versions of WinXP and the latest Vista > build; that was fun for a while but it got very old! I'm now happily using > a single OS (Win7 beta) practically fulltime with only occasional switching > to Vista. And I haven't run WinXP - or OE - in years. > > As you probably know, Win7 comes with NO mail or newsgroup client at all. > WinXP has OE built in; Vista has WM built in. With either, we can add > Outlook or WLM or one of the many third-party products. With Win7, we MUST > install a separate mail or news client or do without any mail or newsgroups. > > I do have a second Win7 Ultimate x64 installed on another partition. It's a > barebones installation and I haven't put WLM on it yet, so I can't test > whether two Win7's can share the same store. MAYBE I'll have time to try > that in the next week or two. > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > rc@xxxxxx > Microsoft Windows MVP > (Running Windows Live Mail 2009 in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000) > > "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:9A2AA258-3758-4917-AA36-0EF67C57E50C@xxxxxx Quote: > > > > Ok, so the reason I must be able to do it is because it is different > > installations of the same OS on different partitions. > > > > In this case the fact that that it is a different OS is the problem. > > > > Thank you for bringing that to light, lol. It's amazing how frustration > > can > > cloud one's ability to think.... > > > > > > "R. C. White" wrote: > > Quote: > >> Hi, SkyDog. > >> > >> I've been trying for about 10 years to share Message Stores between > >> different Windows versions - with limited success. I've not yet been > >> able > >> to share WLM's Message Store between Vista and Win7 beta. If you find a > >> way, please let us all know. > >> > >> But I would never expect to share a Store between OE and WM or WLM > >> because > >> the stores are structured completely differently. OE stored many > >> individual > >> messages in a single .dbx file called a "folder". WM and WLM store each > >> message as a separate .eml (email) or .nws (newsgroup) file. So a > >> thousand > >> 4 KB emails from your Mom might be stored as a single 4 MB Family.dbx > >> file > >> in OE, but as 1,000 separate 4 KB .eml files in WM or WLM. You can > >> Import > >> the OE messages into WM/WLM, but it would be impossible to simply "share" > >> the Message Stores between the two email clients. > >> > >> Even with WLM in both Vista Ultimate x64 and Win7 Ultimate x64, sharing > >> of > >> the Message Store doesn't work. I'm not techie enough to understand why, > >> but when I try pointing both WLMs to the same Message Store, it works > >> only > >> until I reboot into the other OS - and then I have to deal with missing > >> passwords, plus weird contents in some Imported folders, and other > >> strange > >> results. So far, it just hasn't worked well at all. :>( > >> > >> But the Message Store can grow quite large and I hope we can eventually > >> share it between OSes. Even though I have lots of HD space at the > >> moment, > >> having multiple stores is a waste of space. I can share Quicken by > >> installing it multiple times into the same "neutral" volume and folder > >> (E:\Quicken), letting each OS make entries into its own Registry. But > >> that > >> hasn't yet worked for WLM. So I must carefully preserve the contents of > >> multiple Sent Items folders, be sure to "Leave messages on server" in > >> both > >> OSes and boot into each of them frequently to keep each store complete, > >> and > >> try to keep my Storage Folders names the same on the different OSes. > >> > >> RC > >> > >> "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:01E166DF-6FC2-42F5-977A-80B57D4F1B04@xxxxxx > >> > I am setup with with multiple OS's on separate partitions. With outlook > >> > express I could point each OS to the same store folder with no trouble. > >> > I > >> > am > >> > having trouble doing this with WLM. All accounts become corrupt when > >> > using > >> > the same store location. > >> > > >> > If anyone knows how to do this, or make good old outlook express work > >> > with > >> > windows 7 beta I would really appreciate the info. > >> > > >> > Thanks similar to outlook express, allows me to have one global storage that is being shared with my xp pro and windows 7 beta installations. (MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED) Now microsoft should figure out how to do the same thing for WLM so people have an answer to multiboot multi OS computing without having to store messages on an isp or free mail server. |
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01-24-2009
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| | Re: how can you share store folder with different OS Hello, "SkyDog" <SkyDog@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion : 6888BB24-34B9-477C-8B69-6F01F84EA02D@xxxxxx... Quote: > Actually I just discovered that using Mozilla Thunderbird which is very > similar to outlook express, allows me to have one global storage that is > being shared with my xp pro and windows 7 beta installations. (MY PRAYERS > HAVE BEEN ANSWERED) > -- Regards Aski MVP Windows Desktop Experience |
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