Control + M does not work in WLM
Also, Accessibility needs improving in WLM. Folder navagation is almost
imposible with keyboard.

"Loy" <Loy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Control + M does not work in WLM

Which version are you using? What do you expect CTRL-M to do? If you
have the menu bar showing, hovering over each item in turn will show
you the keyboard shortcuts that are available.

> Also, Accessibility needs improving in WLM. Folder navagation is
> almost imposible with keyboard.

It is much better in v. 14 than in any of the earlier ones. What do
you not like about it?
--
Noel

Send and Receive (Ctrl-M) in Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail (WLM)
version 12 has been replaced by Synchronize (F5) in version 14.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Loy" <Loy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Control + M does not work in WLM
> Also, Accessibility needs improving in WLM. Folder navagation is
> almost
> imposible with keyboard.

F5 has always been there in WLMail, hasn't it? So Ctrl-M has just
been retired - why have two shortcuts for the same function?
--
Noel

"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#4e6P7NeJHA.3708@xxxxxx

> Send and Receive (Ctrl-M) in Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail
> (WLM) version 12 has been replaced by Synchronize (F5) in version
> 14.

> "Loy" <Loy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:A1A3CB27-B56F-4D6C-A14C-25A44BBB2190@xxxxxx

>> Control + M does not work in WLM
>> Also, Accessibility needs improving in WLM. Folder navagation is
>> almost imposible with keyboard.

Control M is replaced by Control F5

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...winston
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"Loy" <Loy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:A1A3CB27-B56F-4D6C-A14C-25A44BBB2190@xxxxxx

> Control + M does not work in WLM
> Also, Accessibility needs improving in WLM. Folder navagation is almost
> imposible with keyboard.

Under WLM 12, F5 and Ctrl-M don't do the same thing

Ctrl-M does a Send and Receive All. This applies to any mail;/news
accounts that are set to be Included (Tools, Accounts, Mail/News
General). It does the same thing regardless of the folder focus.

F5 is a Refresh. What gets Refreshed depends on the folder focus. If
the focus in a Storage folder or mail account it does a mail send and
receive. It the focus is in a newsgroup, it gets new messages for that
newsgroup. Mail accounts are not checked.

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Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> F5 has always been there in WLMail, hasn't it? So Ctrl-M has just been
> retired - why have two shortcuts for the same function?
> --
> Noel
>
> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#4e6P7NeJHA.3708@xxxxxx

>> Send and Receive (Ctrl-M) in Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail
>> (WLM) version 12 has been replaced by Synchronize (F5) in version 14.

>

>> "Loy" <Loy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:A1A3CB27-B56F-4D6C-A14C-25A44BBB2190@xxxxxx

>>> Control + M does not work in WLM
>>> Also, Accessibility needs improving in WLM. Folder navagation is
>>> almost imposible with keyboard.

>
>

"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:evXxLlaeJHA.1532@xxxxxx

> Under WLM 12, F5 and Ctrl-M don't do the same thing
>
> Ctrl-M does a Send and Receive All. This applies to any mail;/news
> accounts that are set to be Included (Tools, Accounts, Mail/News
> General). It does the same thing regardless of the folder focus.
>

> F5 is a Refresh. What gets Refreshed depends on the folder focus.

> If the focus in a Storage folder or mail account it does a mail send and
> receive. It the focus is in a newsgroup, it gets new messages for that
> newsgroup. Mail accounts are not checked.

I think another one was a LIST command when focus
was the news account node. That would be analogous
to OE's subscription list at which point updated counts of
not downloaded headers could be provided.

I suspect that both F5 and Ctrl+F5 are window dressing
in the guise of a consistent UI which under the covers are
still different and reflect all the old implementations.
E.g. does WLMail still provide a shared Outbox?
Then do queued news messages still go out when
"Synch" (e.g. F5) is used in Mail mode? If so, I bet that
the newsgroup they were sent from doesn't get
an XOVER done for it (e.g. to download new headers).
At most a LIST or a GROUP command might be done,
which would update the not downloaded message count;
though neither of those would be necessary just to post
the delayed messages. Etc.

I don't have time to do a rigorous analysis of the new
implementations and only use WLMail in a news-only
mode anyway. I hope someone does it and reports
to the group exactly how completely the implied generality
of the new simpler UI is provided. I would love to have
my cynical suspicions proved wrong. ; }

BTW I just realized that if I'm right, in the new version
a "Send-Only" for News would be possible.
Do File, Send Later (or Send while Work Offline is set)
to build up your Outbox queue as desired.
(That's the same as we would use the old implementation.)
Then in order to send them switch to Mail mode and press F5. <eg>

Hmm... then presumably the reverse service could be provided
by News mode for Mail! (But I would be less willing to bet
on this one). E.g. put some E-mail messages in the Outbox
and then switch to News mode before pressing F5.
What happens then regarding the user's POP3 connections? <eg>


Robert
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>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:euZz1SOeJHA.5428@xxxxxx

>> F5 has always been there in WLMail, hasn't it? So Ctrl-M has just been
>> retired - why have two shortcuts for the same function?
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#4e6P7NeJHA.3708@xxxxxx

>>> Send and Receive (Ctrl-M) in Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail
>>> (WLM) version 12 has been replaced by Synchronize (F5) in version 14.

>>

>>> "Loy" <Loy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:A1A3CB27-B56F-4D6C-A14C-25A44BBB2190@xxxxxx
>>>> Control + M does not work in WLM
>>>> Also, Accessibility needs improving in WLM. Folder navagation is
>>>> almost imposible with keyboard.

>>
>>

>

F5 acts on the current account in use.

Control F5 works on all.


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...winston
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"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:87957A84-8CD2-4DCC-BD2E-48EA26307F57@xxxxxx

>> Then do queued news messages still go out when

> "Synch" (e.g. F5) is used in Mail mode? If so, I bet that
> the newsgroup they were sent from doesn't get
> an XOVER done for it (e.g. to download new headers).
> At most a LIST or a GROUP command might be done,
> which would update the not downloaded message count;
> though neither of those would be necessary just to post
> the delayed messages. Etc.

Sync button has three options

News Sync button - sync newsgroup, sync all newsgroups(F5), sync everything(Ctrl F5)
Mail Sync button - sync email account, sync all email accounts, sync everything(Ctrl F5)

In news mode, Ctrl-F5 is required to send emails in the Outbox
In Mail mode, F5 and Ctrl-F5 sends all contents of the Outbox

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"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:87957A84-8CD2-4DCC-BD2E-48EA26307F57@xxxxxx

> BTW I just realized that if I'm right, in the new version
> a "Send-Only" for News would be possible.
> Do File, Send Later (or Send while Work Offline is set)
> to build up your Outbox queue as desired.
> (That's the same as we would use the old implementation.)
> Then in order to send them switch to Mail mode and press F5. <eg>
>
> Hmm... then presumably the reverse service could be provided
> by News mode for Mail! (But I would be less willing to bet
> on this one). E.g. put some E-mail messages in the Outbox
> and then switch to News mode before pressing F5.
> What happens then regarding the user's POP3 connections? <eg>
>
>
> Robert
> ---
>
>

>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:euZz1SOeJHA.5428@xxxxxx

>>> F5 has always been there in WLMail, hasn't it? So Ctrl-M has just been
>>> retired - why have two shortcuts for the same function?
>>> --
>>> Noel
>>>
>>> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:#4e6P7NeJHA.3708@xxxxxx
>>>> Send and Receive (Ctrl-M) in Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail
>>>> (WLM) version 12 has been replaced by Synchronize (F5) in version 14.
>>>
>>>> "Loy" <Loy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:A1A3CB27-B56F-4D6C-A14C-25A44BBB2190@xxxxxx
>>>>> Control + M does not work in WLM
>>>>> Also, Accessibility needs improving in WLM. Folder navagation is
>>>>> almost imposible with keyboard.
>>>
>>>

>>

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