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Old 01-18-2009   #1 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Windows Live Mail & Outlook Express

Another big plus for OE is how *quickly* it opens when clicked...

Outlook EXPRESS...

In Truth.

No waiting for the spinning doughnut in WLM to finish -- or just a
significant delay w/o the spinning doughnut -- if not signing on.

How long will XP users be able to continue using OE and be able to connect
to HTTP and POP3 accounts?
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-18-2009   #2 (permalink)
Peter Foldes


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail & Outlook Express

Until the year 2014 at least

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O$krBpceJHA.1336@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Another big plus for OE is how *quickly* it opens when clicked...
>
> Outlook EXPRESS...
>
> In Truth.
>
> No waiting for the spinning doughnut in WLM to finish -- or just a
> significant delay w/o the spinning doughnut -- if not signing on.
>
> How long will XP users be able to continue using OE and be able to connect
> to HTTP and POP3 accounts?
> --
> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Deus Vult
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-18-2009   #3 (permalink)
Earle Horton


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail & Outlook Express

It's actually a rolling donut. This was a favorite of Kurt Vonnegut. ;^)

Earle

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O$krBpceJHA.1336@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Another big plus for OE is how *quickly* it opens when clicked...
>
> Outlook EXPRESS...
>
> In Truth.
>
> No waiting for the spinning doughnut in WLM to finish -- or just a
> significant delay w/o the spinning doughnut -- if not signing on.
>
> How long will XP users be able to continue using OE and be able to connect
> to HTTP and POP3 accounts?
> --
> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Deus Vult
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-18-2009   #4 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail & Outlook Express

<G>

As in...

"Take a ... at a rolling doughnut!" ???

Bottom Line: [no pun intended]

An Email & Newsreader should be -- FAST!...

Not Lumbering.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult

"Earle Horton" <earleh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23Ca$R9ceJHA.1268@xxxxxx
Quote:

> It's actually a rolling donut. This was a favorite of Kurt Vonnegut. ;^)
>
> Earle
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O$krBpceJHA.1336@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> Another big plus for OE is how *quickly* it opens when clicked...
>>
>> Outlook EXPRESS...
>>
>> In Truth.
>>
>> No waiting for the spinning doughnut in WLM to finish -- or just a
>> significant delay w/o the spinning doughnut -- if not signing on.
>>
>> How long will XP users be able to continue using OE and be able to
>> connect
>> to HTTP and POP3 accounts?
>> --
>> DSH
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>> Deus Vult

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-18-2009   #5 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail & Outlook Express

Thanks...

But why 2014 for sure?...

And guaranteed connectivity to MSN HTTP and POP3 accounts?

We were told earlier the spigot was to be cut off.

If that's not so, and we are good to go until 2014, I'll drop WLM in a
flash -- and write it off as a bad marriage -- best forgotten.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult

"Peter Foldes" <okf122@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23N5DfyceJHA.5344@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Until the year 2014 at least
>
> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O$krBpceJHA.1336@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> Another big plus for OE is how *quickly* it opens when clicked...
>>
>> Outlook EXPRESS...
>>
>> In Truth.
>>
>> No waiting for the spinning doughnut in WLM to finish -- or just a
>> significant delay w/o the spinning doughnut -- if not signing on.
>>
>> How long will XP users be able to continue using OE and be able to
>> connect
>> to HTTP and POP3 accounts?
>> --
>> DSH
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>> Deus Vult

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-18-2009   #6 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail & Outlook Express

Elimination of Http access using WebDAV in OE....
...last Msft comment was -->> No sooner than January 2009.
I.e. might be sooner than 2014 the date when lifecycle support for the entire product expires.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


"Peter Foldes" <okf122@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#N5DfyceJHA.5344@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Until the year 2014 at least
>
> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O$krBpceJHA.1336@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Another big plus for OE is how *quickly* it opens when clicked...
>>
>> Outlook EXPRESS...
>>
>> In Truth.
>>
>> No waiting for the spinning doughnut in WLM to finish -- or just a
>> significant delay w/o the spinning doughnut -- if not signing on.
>>
>> How long will XP users be able to continue using OE and be able to connect
>> to HTTP and POP3 accounts?
>> --
>> DSH
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>> Deus Vult
>>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-18-2009   #7 (permalink)
Earle Horton


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail & Outlook Express

People at MSFT are fond of making pronouncements like this, but the customer
still has some control. The truth is you never know, and everyone who
continues to use WebDAV in OE or Outlook is voting in its favor. The
implied threat is that if you cut me off I will begin using Gmail full time,
and looking at Gmail's ads whenever I log on to their web site. Then they
won't be able to tell their advertisers, "We have X million active
subscribers."

Judging by the comments in microsoft.public.msn.discussion, people are even
continuing to use MSN Explorer to access their MSN mail. I don't think that
MSN Email is DeltaSync enabled. Correct me if I am wrong here.

I am now using Outlook Connector, more or less exclusively. The latest
version seems to have most of the wrinkles out of it. Knock on wood.

I assume you are talking about "lifecycle support" for XP, but MSN support
continues for as long as you pay your monthly subscription fee.

Earle

"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e7RbOqdeJHA.1528@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Elimination of Http access using WebDAV in OE....
> ...last Msft comment was -->> No sooner than January 2009.
> I.e. might be sooner than 2014 the date when lifecycle support for the
> entire product expires.
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
>
> "Peter Foldes" <okf122@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#N5DfyceJHA.5344@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Until the year 2014 at least
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>>
>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>
>> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:O$krBpceJHA.1336@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Another big plus for OE is how *quickly* it opens when clicked...
>>>
>>> Outlook EXPRESS...
>>>
>>> In Truth.
>>>
>>> No waiting for the spinning doughnut in WLM to finish -- or just a
>>> significant delay w/o the spinning doughnut -- if not signing on.
>>>
>>> How long will XP users be able to continue using OE and be able to
>>> connect
>>> to HTTP and POP3 accounts?
>>> --
>>> DSH
>>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>>> Deus Vult
>>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-18-2009   #8 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail & Outlook Express

Smart Post...

Thanks.

I meant XP Pro SP3, MSN HTTP and POP3, plus OE6 all connected and
compatible...

Date reasonably certain for continuation.

Anyone's guess?
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult

"Earle Horton" <earleh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O0OEL3deJHA.3792@xxxxxx
Quote:

> People at MSFT are fond of making pronouncements like this, but the
> customer still has some control. The truth is you never know, and
> everyone who continues to use WebDAV in OE or Outlook is voting in its
> favor. The implied threat is that if you cut me off I will begin using
> Gmail full time, and looking at Gmail's ads whenever I log on to their web
> site. Then they won't be able to tell their advertisers, "We have X
> million active subscribers."
>
> Judging by the comments in microsoft.public.msn.discussion, people are
> even continuing to use MSN Explorer to access their MSN mail. I don't
> think that MSN Email is DeltaSync enabled. Correct me if I am wrong here.
>
> I am now using Outlook Connector, more or less exclusively. The latest
> version seems to have most of the wrinkles out of it. Knock on wood.
>
> I assume you are talking about "lifecycle support" for XP, but MSN support
> continues for as long as you pay your monthly subscription fee.
>
> Earle
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e7RbOqdeJHA.1528@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Elimination of Http access using WebDAV in OE....
>> ...last Msft comment was -->> No sooner than January 2009.
>> I.e. might be sooner than 2014 the date when lifecycle support for the
>> entire product expires.
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>>
>> "Peter Foldes" <okf122@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#N5DfyceJHA.5344@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Until the year 2014 at least
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>>
>>> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:O$krBpceJHA.1336@xxxxxx
>>>> Another big plus for OE is how *quickly* it opens when clicked...
>>>>
>>>> Outlook EXPRESS...
>>>>
>>>> In Truth.
>>>>
>>>> No waiting for the spinning doughnut in WLM to finish -- or just a
>>>> significant delay w/o the spinning doughnut -- if not signing on.
>>>>
>>>> How long will XP users be able to continue using OE and be able to
>>>> connect
>>>> to HTTP and POP3 accounts?
>>>> --
>>>> DSH
>>>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>>>> Deus Vult

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-18-2009   #9 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail & Outlook Express

Yes, 2014 is the date for XP/IE and included applications.
It was not a pronouncement(ie. press release, blog comment etc), iirc it was included in a KB article or something akin to one.
--
winston
ms-mvp mail


"Earle Horton" <earleh@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O0OEL3deJHA.3792@xxxxxx
Quote:

> People at MSFT are fond of making pronouncements like this, but the customer
> still has some control. The truth is you never know, and everyone who
> continues to use WebDAV in OE or Outlook is voting in its favor. The
> implied threat is that if you cut me off I will begin using Gmail full time,
> and looking at Gmail's ads whenever I log on to their web site. Then they
> won't be able to tell their advertisers, "We have X million active
> subscribers."
>
> Judging by the comments in microsoft.public.msn.discussion, people are even
> continuing to use MSN Explorer to access their MSN mail. I don't think that
> MSN Email is DeltaSync enabled. Correct me if I am wrong here.
>
> I am now using Outlook Connector, more or less exclusively. The latest
> version seems to have most of the wrinkles out of it. Knock on wood.
>
> I assume you are talking about "lifecycle support" for XP, but MSN support
> continues for as long as you pay your monthly subscription fee.
>
> Earle
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e7RbOqdeJHA.1528@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Elimination of Http access using WebDAV in OE....
>> ...last Msft comment was -->> No sooner than January 2009.
>> I.e. might be sooner than 2014 the date when lifecycle support for the
>> entire product expires.
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>>
>> "Peter Foldes" <okf122@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#N5DfyceJHA.5344@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Until the year 2014 at least
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
>>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>>>
>>> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:O$krBpceJHA.1336@xxxxxx
>>>> Another big plus for OE is how *quickly* it opens when clicked...
>>>>
>>>> Outlook EXPRESS...
>>>>
>>>> In Truth.
>>>>
>>>> No waiting for the spinning doughnut in WLM to finish -- or just a
>>>> significant delay w/o the spinning doughnut -- if not signing on.
>>>>
>>>> How long will XP users be able to continue using OE and be able to
>>>> connect
>>>> to HTTP and POP3 accounts?
>>>> --
>>>> DSH
>>>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>>>> Deus Vult
>>>>
>>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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