Vista - Getting Rid Of Norton & McAfee

01-23-2009

> "Ildhund" wrote:

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>> Most regulars in this group (with one notable exception) would
>> recommend ditching both McAfee and Norton and installing Avast or
>> AVG.

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Many techies do indeed hate Norton, and sometimes McAfee as well, with a
white-hot passion.

Three Principal Reasons Why:

1. They can't get employment with Symantec -- or McAfee -- which engenders
vitriolic hate. [Many also feel the same way about Microsoft -- and for the
same reason -- they were rejected by the corporation.]

2. The lesser-known, freeware programs are simpler and easier to hack.

3. They never want to pay for anything if they can help it, even though
that means accepting an inferior product.

'Nuff Said.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

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> "Ildhund" wrote:
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>> Most regulars in this group (with one notable exception) would
>> recommend ditching both McAfee and Norton and installing Avast or
>> AVG.

01-23-2009

PLEASE stop crossposting your drivel to OE & OL newsgroups!

On Jan 23, 4:23*pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@xxxxxx> wrote:

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> Many techies do indeed hate Norton, and sometimes McAfee as well, with a
> white-hot passion....

01-23-2009

"N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:6gfgmdfwc62n.dlg@xxxxxx

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> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:23:16 -0000, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
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>>> "Ildhund" wrote:

>

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>>>> Most regulars in this group (with one notable exception) would
>>>> recommend ditching both McAfee and Norton and installing Avast or
>>>> AVG.

>

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>> Many techies do indeed hate Norton, and sometimes McAfee as well, with a
>> white-hot passion.
>>
>> Three Principal Reasons Why:
>>
>> 1. They can't get employment with Symantec -- or McAfee -- which
>> engenders vitriolic hate. [Many also feel the same way about Microsoft
>> -- and for the same reason -- they were rejected by the corporation.]

>
> Nothing to do with employment. Both McAfee, and Norton, severely hosed my
> old HP Pavilion 6745C (Windows Me) because of design flaws in the
> software.

Anyone dumb enough to purchase and run Windows Me deserves whatever grief he
got. It was incompatible with all sorts of software -- and Microsoft was
not sharing the code properly.

'Nuff Said.

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>> 2. The lesser-known, freeware programs are simpler and easier to hack.

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>> 3. They never want to pay for anything if they can help it, even though
>> that means accepting an inferior product.

--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

01-23-2009

On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:38:48 -0000, D. Spencer Hines wrote:

<snipped some of the drivel>

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> Currently Norton Internet Security 2009 [NIS 2009] -- the whole enchilada.
> It's an excellent product...

That's what I heard; It's been reported here once or twice. IMO, the more
users reporting on this 'fact' the better the discussion, alas not too many
as yet.

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> The lesser-known, freeware programs are simpler and easier to hack, so
> the doors are still open to them.

Could you provide pertinent links in relation to the 'hack' issue and as to
how AV applications close 'doors' (os ports?)?

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> They never want to pay for anything if they can help it, even though
> that means accepting an inferior product.

A bold and rather biased statement IMO. Granted, there is a slight delay of
updating the VDF but apart from this, good-quality (free) AV (and A-S)
applications essentially do everything what paid versions are doing without
some of the incidental 'bells and whistles' (enchiladas). And if one
considers the availablity of free first-class on-demand scanners, I'd
rather spend my money on an external hard-drive and a workable back-up
program.

01-23-2009	#1 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines n/a posts	Getting Rid Of Norton & McAfee > "Ildhund" wrote: Quote: > Quote: >> Most regulars in this group (with one notable exception) would >> recommend ditching both McAfee and Norton and installing Avast or >> AVG. ---------------------------------------------------- Many techies do indeed hate Norton, and sometimes McAfee as well, with a white-hot passion. Three Principal Reasons Why: 1. They can't get employment with Symantec -- or McAfee -- which engenders vitriolic hate. [Many also feel the same way about Microsoft -- and for the same reason -- they were rejected by the corporation.] 2. The lesser-known, freeware programs are simpler and easier to hack. 3. They never want to pay for anything if they can help it, even though that means accepting an inferior product. 'Nuff Said. -- DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Vires et Honor Quote: > "Ildhund" wrote: > Quote: >> Most regulars in this group (with one notable exception) would >> recommend ditching both McAfee and Norton and installing Avast or >> AVG.
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01-23-2009	#2 (permalink)
PA Bear, MS MVP n/a posts	Re: Getting Rid Of Norton & McAfee PLEASE stop crossposting your drivel to OE & OL newsgroups! On Jan 23, 4:23*pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > Many techies do indeed hate Norton, and sometimes McAfee as well, with a > white-hot passion....
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01-23-2009	#3 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines n/a posts	Re: Getting Rid Of Norton & McAfee "N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:6gfgmdfwc62n.dlg@xxxxxx Quote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:23:16 -0000, D. Spencer Hines wrote: > Quote: Quote: >>> "Ildhund" wrote: > Quote: Quote: >>>> Most regulars in this group (with one notable exception) would >>>> recommend ditching both McAfee and Norton and installing Avast or >>>> AVG. > Quote: >> Many techies do indeed hate Norton, and sometimes McAfee as well, with a >> white-hot passion. >> >> Three Principal Reasons Why: >> >> 1. They can't get employment with Symantec -- or McAfee -- which >> engenders vitriolic hate. [Many also feel the same way about Microsoft >> -- and for the same reason -- they were rejected by the corporation.] > > Nothing to do with employment. Both McAfee, and Norton, severely hosed my > old HP Pavilion 6745C (Windows Me) because of design flaws in the > software. Anyone dumb enough to purchase and run Windows Me deserves whatever grief he got. It was incompatible with all sorts of software -- and Microsoft was not sharing the code properly. 'Nuff Said. Quote: Quote: >> 2. The lesser-known, freeware programs are simpler and easier to hack. Quote: Quote: >> 3. They never want to pay for anything if they can help it, even though >> that means accepting an inferior product. -- DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Vires et Honor
My System Specs

01-23-2009	#4 (permalink)
Kayman n/a posts	Re: Getting Rid Of Norton & McAfee On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:38:48 -0000, D. Spencer Hines wrote: <snipped some of the drivel> Quote: > Currently Norton Internet Security 2009 [NIS 2009] -- the whole enchilada. > It's an excellent product... That's what I heard; It's been reported here once or twice. IMO, the more users reporting on this 'fact' the better the discussion, alas not too many as yet. Quote: > The lesser-known, freeware programs are simpler and easier to hack, so > the doors are still open to them. Could you provide pertinent links in relation to the 'hack' issue and as to how AV applications close 'doors' (os ports?)? Quote: > They never want to pay for anything if they can help it, even though > that means accepting an inferior product. A bold and rather biased statement IMO. Granted, there is a slight delay of updating the VDF but apart from this, good-quality (free) AV (and A-S) applications essentially do everything what paid versions are doing without some of the incidental 'bells and whistles' (enchiladas). And if one considers the availablity of free first-class on-demand scanners, I'd rather spend my money on an external hard-drive and a workable back-up program.
My System Specs

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