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Old 02-09-2009   #1 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Microsoft PO3 Accounts & Unicode Encoding

We've been hearing a lot of buzz in these groups about Microsoft's opening
up POP3 accounts for folks in various Nations -- and there seems to be some
excitement about it.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of a POP3 account?

Secondly, what are the advantages and disadvantages of sending a message in
Unicode [UTF-7 and UTF-8] Encoding?

Can it only be done from a POP3 account -- or is that not a consideration?
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor



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Old 02-09-2009   #2 (permalink)
Michael Santovec


 
 

Re: Microsoft PO3 Accounts & Unicode Encoding

The advantage of using a POP3 access is that you can use any mail client
that supports POP3, which is just about any mail client there is. That
would include a number of mobile devices.

The disadvantage is the inherent limitation of POP3. POP3 works fine
when an account is access by a single mail client/device. When multiple
clients access a single account, synchronization between them is a
problem. That's why IMAP was created. And Microsoft's Hotmail HTTP
protocol is there is essentially their proprietary version of IMAP.

As for UTF, it's one way to support languages other than Western
European. The disadvantage is that some older mail clients don't
handle it well.



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"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> We've been hearing a lot of buzz in these groups about Microsoft's
> opening
> up POP3 accounts for folks in various Nations -- and there seems to be
> some
> excitement about it.
>
> What are the advantages and disadvantages of a POP3 account?
>
> Secondly, what are the advantages and disadvantages of sending a
> message in
> Unicode [UTF-7 and UTF-8] Encoding?
>
> Can it only be done from a POP3 account -- or is that not a
> consideration?
> --
> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Vires et Honor
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-09-2009   #3 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Microsoft PO3 Accounts & Unicode Encoding

"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e8kwMvwiJHA.1388@xxxxxx
Quote:

> The advantage of using a POP3 access is that you can use any mail client
> that supports POP3, which is just about any mail client there is. That
> would include a number of mobile devices.
Aha! So Outlook, OE, WLM, Blackberry will all support it?

DSL, Road Runner, other high speed access and so forth no problems?
Quote:

> The disadvantage is the inherent limitation of POP3. POP3 works fine when
> an account is access by a single mail client/device. When multiple
> clients access a single account, synchronization between them is a
> problem. That's why IMAP was created. And Microsoft's Hotmail HTTP
> protocol is there is essentially their proprietary version of IMAP.
O.K. Hmmmmmm...
Quote:

> As for UTF, it's one way to support languages other than Western European.
> The disadvantage is that some older mail clients don't handle it well.
O.K.

What's the difference between UTF-7 and UTF-8?

And do we have to use Unicode to send messages in languages other than
English -- in order to get all the diacritics and Non-Latin alphabets?

Thanks,

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Quote:

> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ewWI3mwiJHA.3716@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> We've been hearing a lot of buzz in these groups about Microsoft's
>> opening up POP3 accounts for folks in various Nations -- and there
>> seems to be some excitement about it.
>>
>> What are the advantages and disadvantages of a POP3 account?
>>
>> Secondly, what are the advantages and disadvantages of sending a message
>> in Unicode [UTF-7 and UTF-8] Encoding?
>>
>> Can it only be done from a POP3 account -- or is that not a
>> consideration?
>> --
>> DSH
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>> Vires et Honor

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-09-2009   #4 (permalink)
Peter Foldes


 
 

Re: Microsoft PO3 Accounts & Unicode Encoding

You friggin Troll. Starting again. What you just asked you already did. Collecting
all your info and then start pulling MS KB's showing that either the KB or the
poster was wrong. This is what you did a few years ago and you are starting the same
way again. Go and play with what you were born with and not play your games here.

You think everybody forgot about you? Then you are greatly mistaken

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e8kwMvwiJHA.1388@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

>> The advantage of using a POP3 access is that you can use any mail client that
>> supports POP3, which is just about any mail client there is. That would include
>> a number of mobile devices.
>
> Aha! So Outlook, OE, WLM, Blackberry will all support it?
>
> DSL, Road Runner, other high speed access and so forth no problems?
>
Quote:

>> The disadvantage is the inherent limitation of POP3. POP3 works fine when an
>> account is access by a single mail client/device. When multiple clients access a
>> single account, synchronization between them is a problem. That's why IMAP was
>> created. And Microsoft's Hotmail HTTP protocol is there is essentially their
>> proprietary version of IMAP.
>
> O.K. Hmmmmmm...
>
Quote:

>> As for UTF, it's one way to support languages other than Western European. The
>> disadvantage is that some older mail clients don't handle it well.
>
> O.K.
>
> What's the difference between UTF-7 and UTF-8?
>
> And do we have to use Unicode to send messages in languages other than English --
> in order to get all the diacritics and Non-Latin alphabets?
>
> Thanks,
>
> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Vires et Honor
>
Quote:

>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:ewWI3mwiJHA.3716@xxxxxx
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>> We've been hearing a lot of buzz in these groups about Microsoft's opening up
>>> POP3 accounts for folks in various Nations -- and there
>>> seems to be some excitement about it.
>>>
>>> What are the advantages and disadvantages of a POP3 account?
>>>
>>> Secondly, what are the advantages and disadvantages of sending a message in
>>> Unicode [UTF-7 and UTF-8] Encoding?
>>>
>>> Can it only be done from a POP3 account -- or is that not a consideration?
>>> --
>>> DSH
>>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>>> Vires et Honor
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-10-2009   #5 (permalink)
DL


 
 

Re: Microsoft PO3 Accounts & Unicode Encoding

>
Quote:

> Aha! So Outlook, OE, WLM, Blackberry will all support it?
Yes
Quote:

>
> DSL, Road Runner, other high speed access and so forth no problems?
>
DSL is a connection type & has no baring on the mail protocol
Generally all ISP's support pop3, but not neccessarily web based mail
clients, many also support IMAP


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-10-2009   #6 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Microsoft PO3 Accounts & Unicode Encoding

Thank you.

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"DL" <address@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:
Quote:

> >
>> Aha! So Outlook, OE, WLM, Blackberry will all support it?
>
> Yes
>
Quote:

>>
>> DSL, Road Runner, other high speed access and so forth no problems?
>>
> DSL is a connection type & has no baring on the mail protocol
> Generally all ISP's support pop3, but not neccessarily web based mail
> clients, many also support IMAP

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-12-2009   #7 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Microsoft PO3 Accounts & Unicode Encoding

What's the difference between UTF-7 and UTF-8?

And do we have to use Unicode to send messages in languages other than
English -- in order to get all the diacritics and Non-Latin alphabets?

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-12-2009   #8 (permalink)
FromTheRafters


 
 

Re: Microsoft PO3 Accounts & Unicode Encoding

"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eLDxbVNjJHA.824@xxxxxx
Quote:

> What's the difference between UTF-7 and UTF-8?
One bit.
Quote:

> And do we have to use Unicode to send messages in languages other than
> English -- in order to get all the diacritics and Non-Latin alphabets?
Yes, that is you need more than ASCII offers.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-12-2009   #9 (permalink)
D. Spencer Hines


 
 

Re: Microsoft PO3 Accounts & Unicode Encoding

Thank you.

What does that one bit get for you?

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"FromTheRafters" <erratic@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eLDxbVNjJHA.824@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> What's the difference between UTF-7 and UTF-8?
>
> One bit.
>
Quote:

>> And do we have to use Unicode to send messages in languages other than
>> English -- in order to get all the diacritics and Non-Latin alphabets?
>
> Yes, that is you need more than ASCII offers.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-12-2009   #10 (permalink)
F.H. Muffman


 
 

Re: Microsoft PO3 Accounts & Unicode Encoding

> What's the difference between UTF-7 and UTF-8?
Quote:

>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...code_encodings

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