Hi, Winston - and Michael.
Yes, WLM definitely needs better Exit procedures!
Even when it SEEMS that all WLM's housekeeping chores have been completed in
the background, closing the application can leave bits of debris scattered
around that get noticed the next time WLM is started. Sometimes there is a
"Recovered items" folder. Sometimes the Unread count is off. Sometimes we
read messages again that we KNOW we read yesterday. And sometimes, Contacts
that we KNOW we added yesterday are not there today. :>(
The most noticeable sign of such activity is when I click the Red X
(actually a white X in a red box, but you know what I mean) while a Sync
operation is continuing. The main WLM window closes, but the "progress"
window - for want of a better name, since its title is simply "Windows Live
Mail" - is still open and messages are still being downloaded and sorted
into place in WLM's database. Sometimes an unfinished Draft is still open
after WLM's window is closed. All the sub-windows do close, eventually, but
the unfinished tasks can leave garbage that shows up in the next WLM
It hardly seems worth the trouble to report all these to the WLM Team, since
I'm sure they are well aware of them. :>(
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 7000
"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> It appears WLM goes into (my term) a damage control mode to protect its
> message store and to avoid losing a message that has not been processed or
> The most prominent reason it occurs that I have seen is:
> - a user closure of WLM prior to any sync being completed, Sync can be
> manual or automatic(send all messages immediately, check every x sec)
> These types of 'recovered' messages may show up as present in the Outbox
> without any content or the Sent Folder(with content and the To field
> containing the user email address.ie. as if sent to one self).
> The presence of, does not dictate lack of delivery of the message.
> It does dictate that something abnormal to routine operation occurred.
> ms-mvp mail
> "Tom Brown" <NoSpam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> Today, I noticed I had six NEW (Unread) messages in my Sent Items that
>> messages I sent a few days ago. Also, all of these message titles are now
>> stuck in my Outbox but when I click on the header, I see "Message Not
>> Found." "The contents of this message cannot be found." I am able to
>> delete these messages from my Outbox but they should not be there in
>> the first place as they were sent days ago. Again, they do not get sent
>> again as they have already been sent. I am using a POP3 account with the
>> mail.messagingengine.com server on a Fastmail.net account. I will also
>> them know of the problem although I think it probably originates in WLM.
>> The other strange thing is that they stand out in the Sent Items list
>> because they are all addressed TO ME instead of the people they were
>> originally sent to. I am certain they were sent and received because I
>> discussed them with the recipients.
>> This has happened a few times before and it really makes me not trust
>> WLM. I
>> consider this a fundamental operational problem in a mainstream program.
>> I believe I have the latest version and I am not aware it is a beta
>> I have Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8064.0206).
>> Any help appreciated.