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Old 02-23-2009   #1 (permalink)
The Taibi's


 
 

still no manual rule application

For mail rules at least. It goes through all the right motions even showing
a progress bar but when all is said and done, nothing is actually done.
Rules are applied just fine on incoming mail but if a new rules is created
meaning to apply manually to do the initial footwork, the target messages
remain in their original respective locations and must be moved manually via
drag and drop method.






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Old 02-23-2009   #2 (permalink)
mac


 
 

Re: still no manual rule application


"The Taibi's" <taibi3@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O8LFsPelJHA.1168@xxxxxx
Quote:

> For mail rules at least. It goes through all the right motions even
> showing a progress bar but when all is said and done, nothing is actually
> done. Rules are applied just fine on incoming mail but if a new rules is
> created meaning to apply manually to do the initial footwork, the target
> messages remain in their original respective locations and must be moved
> manually via drag and drop method.
The rules will not work manually if you filter on the email address as From,
taibi3@xxxxxx , they do work if you use The Taibi's, in your case.



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Old 02-24-2009   #3 (permalink)
Michael Santovec


 
 

Re: still no manual rule application

The bug from version 12 is still in version 14.

I reported the bug June 1, 2008 (Support Ticket Number: 1068905331)
which was supposedly passed to the developers, but apparently it was
ignored.

BUG: When Manually applying a mail Message Rule criteria Where From
Contains 'X'.

A From header can be of two forms:

1) From: Name <e-mail address>
2) From: e-mail address

When Manually applied, the rule does NOT check the e-mail address in
form #1 within the < >.

It will match the e-mail address in form #2. And it will match if
checking for Name.

The rule works perfectly when automatically applied to incoming POP3
message. It will match on the e-mail address in the <>.

The bug just appears to be with the From header. Testing on the To and
Cc headers when Manually applying rules works fine.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"The Taibi's" <taibi3@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O8LFsPelJHA.1168@xxxxxx
Quote:

> For mail rules at least. It goes through all the right motions even
> showing a progress bar but when all is said and done, nothing is
> actually done. Rules are applied just fine on incoming mail but if a
> new rules is created meaning to apply manually to do the initial
> footwork, the target messages remain in their original respective
> locations and must be moved manually via drag and drop method.
>
>
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-24-2009   #4 (permalink)
The Taibi's


 
 

Re: still no manual rule application



" mac" <macknever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eXe6HVilJHA.3644@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> The rules will not work manually if you filter on the email address as
> From, taibi3@xxxxxx , they do work if you use The Taibi's, in your
> case.
>
Thanks for the work around on what's obviously a rather odd bug.



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Old 02-24-2009   #5 (permalink)
The Taibi's


 
 

Re: still no manual rule application

Very thorough! Thanks for the detailed explanation.

One would think after being supplied with such a precise description, the
bug would have been vanquished by now!



"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eHKNM$jlJHA.1340@xxxxxx
Quote:

> The bug from version 12 is still in version 14.
>
> I reported the bug June 1, 2008 (Support Ticket Number: 1068905331) which
> was supposedly passed to the developers, but apparently it was ignored.
>
> BUG: When Manually applying a mail Message Rule criteria Where From
> Contains 'X'.
>
> A From header can be of two forms:
>
> 1) From: Name <e-mail address>
> 2) From: e-mail address
>
> When Manually applied, the rule does NOT check the e-mail address in form
> #1 within the < >.
>
> It will match the e-mail address in form #2. And it will match if
> checking for Name.
>
> The rule works perfectly when automatically applied to incoming POP3
> message. It will match on the e-mail address in the <>.
>
> The bug just appears to be with the From header. Testing on the To and Cc
> headers when Manually applying rules works fine.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "The Taibi's" <taibi3@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O8LFsPelJHA.1168@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> For mail rules at least. It goes through all the right motions even
>> showing a progress bar but when all is said and done, nothing is actually
>> done. Rules are applied just fine on incoming mail but if a new rules is
>> created meaning to apply manually to do the initial footwork, the target
>> messages remain in their original respective locations and must be moved
>> manually via drag and drop method.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-24-2009   #6 (permalink)
The Taibi's


 
 

Re: still no manual rule application



" mac" <macknever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eXe6HVilJHA.3644@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> "The Taibi's" <taibi3@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O8LFsPelJHA.1168@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> For mail rules at least. It goes through all the right motions even
>> showing a progress bar but when all is said and done, nothing is actually
>> done. Rules are applied just fine on incoming mail but if a new rules is
>> created meaning to apply manually to do the initial footwork, the target
>> messages remain in their original respective locations and must be moved
>> manually via drag and drop method.
>
> The rules will not work manually if you filter on the email address as
> From, taibi3@xxxxxx , they do work if you use The Taibi's, in your
> case.
>
>
Actually I just went back and revised the rule to include only the first
part (which it already had contained as an 'or' condition with the second
part) and removed the second part but it still refused to move the message
to the specified folder manually. Again it shows the progress bar and acts
for all the world as if it's working but doesn't.



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-24-2009   #7 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: still no manual rule application

"The Taibi's" <taibi3@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uSW24dklJHA.2460@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
>
> " mac" <macknever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eXe6HVilJHA.3644@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>> "The Taibi's" <taibi3@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:O8LFsPelJHA.1168@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> For mail rules at least. It goes through all the right motions even
>>> showing a progress bar but when all is said and done, nothing is actually
>>> done. Rules are applied just fine on incoming mail but if a new rules is
>>> created meaning to apply manually to do the initial footwork, the target
>>> messages remain in their original respective locations and must be moved
>>> manually via drag and drop method.
>>
>> The rules will not work manually if you filter on the email address as
>> From, taibi3@xxxxxx , they do work if you use The Taibi's, in your
>> case.
>>
>>
>
> Actually I just went back and revised the rule to include only the first
> part (which it already had contained as an 'or' condition with the second
> part) and removed the second part but it still refused to move the message
> to the specified folder manually. Again it shows the progress bar and acts
> for all the world as if it's working but doesn't.



As an example..use this newsgroup message

The From is
Taibi's

and not
taibi3

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail


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Old 02-24-2009   #8 (permalink)
The Taibi's


 
 

Re: still no manual rule application



"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OxWywYmlJHA.3948@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "The Taibi's" <taibi3@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uSW24dklJHA.2460@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>>
>> " mac" <macknever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eXe6HVilJHA.3644@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>>
>>> "The Taibi's" <taibi3@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:O8LFsPelJHA.1168@xxxxxx
>>>> For mail rules at least. It goes through all the right motions even
>>>> showing a progress bar but when all is said and done, nothing is
>>>> actually done. Rules are applied just fine on incoming mail but if a
>>>> new rules is created meaning to apply manually to do the initial
>>>> footwork, the target messages remain in their original respective
>>>> locations and must be moved manually via drag and drop method.
>>>
>>> The rules will not work manually if you filter on the email address as
>>> From, taibi3@xxxxxx , they do work if you use The Taibi's, in your
>>> case.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Actually I just went back and revised the rule to include only the first
>> part (which it already had contained as an 'or' condition with the second
>> part) and removed the second part but it still refused to move the
>> message to the specified folder manually. Again it shows the progress bar
>> and acts for all the world as if it's working but doesn't.
>
>
>
>
> As an example..use this newsgroup message
> The From is
> Taibi's
>
> and not
> taibi3
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
>
I follow that perfectly thank you and it doesn't work. Period. The mail I'm
refering to is a newsletter mailing from Photojojo.

"Photojojo" <click@xxxxxx>

I can key the rule to move the message to the photojojo folder if the from
line contains

click@xxxxxx or photojojo

(The previous is the default as created from the original message.)

or I can try what everyone here is saying and key it off of the from line
simply containing

photojojo

Neither of these cause the message to move to the specified folder when the
rule is applied manually even though both cause the progress bar to pop up
and move along ending with the program proclaiming the rule has been
applied.





My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-24-2009   #9 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: still no manual rule application

Is Photojojo and the corresponding email address in your contact list ?

Why not provide folks in this group with the message headers..(xxx out your email address).

Does your rule have stop processing more rules as an end specifier ?

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"The Taibi's" <taibi3@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#4ym9YnlJHA.5920@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> I follow that perfectly thank you and it doesn't work. Period. The mail I'm
> refering to is a newsletter mailing from Photojojo.
>
> "Photojojo" <click@xxxxxx>
>
> I can key the rule to move the message to the photojojo folder if the from
> line contains
>
> click@xxxxxx or photojojo
>
> (The previous is the default as created from the original message.)
>
> or I can try what everyone here is saying and key it off of the from line
> simply containing
>
> photojojo
>
> Neither of these cause the message to move to the specified folder when the
> rule is applied manually even though both cause the progress bar to pop up
> and move along ending with the program proclaiming the rule has been
> applied.
>
>
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-25-2009   #10 (permalink)
The Taibi's


 
 

Re: still no manual rule application

Resolved. Operator error really but I finally caught something that was
right under my nose all along. Seems rules are applied to the inbox by
default when applied on incoming from the POP3 server but when one applies a
rule manually there is a drop down that needs you to specify the folder and
it was defauled to the storage folders.

Once I clicked browse and pointed it to the inbox everything worked
perfectly. So, don't know why I missed it that many times or why it would
default to the storage folders but there it was.

Thanks to everyone who jumped in and helped!



"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ubzdGjvlJHA.6060@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Is Photojojo and the corresponding email address in your contact list ?
>
> Why not provide folks in this group with the message headers..(xxx out
> your email address).
>
> Does your rule have stop processing more rules as an end specifier ?
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "The Taibi's" <taibi3@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#4ym9YnlJHA.5920@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

>>
>> I follow that perfectly thank you and it doesn't work. Period. The mail
>> I'm refering to is a newsletter mailing from Photojojo.
>>
>> "Photojojo" <click@xxxxxx>
>>
>> I can key the rule to move the message to the photojojo folder if the
>> from line contains
>>
>> click@xxxxxx or photojojo
>>
>> (The previous is the default as created from the original message.)
>>
>> or I can try what everyone here is saying and key it off of the from line
>> simply containing
>>
>> photojojo
>>
>> Neither of these cause the message to move to the specified folder when
>> the rule is applied manually even though both cause the progress bar to
>> pop up and move along ending with the program proclaiming the rule has
>> been applied.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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