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'from' field display
  1. #1


    Crazy Nukeguy Guest

    'from' field display

    Anyone know how to, or if it is possible to, change the information that is
    displayed in the 'from' column to display the actual address rather the the
    "name" of where it is from?




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  2. #2


    Gary VanderMolen Guest

    Re: 'from' field display

    No, that's not possible.
    If you need to see the email address, press Ctrl+F3.

    --
    Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


    "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eu32J82pJHA.5880@xxxxxx

    > Anyone know how to, or if it is possible to, change the information that is
    > displayed in the 'from' column to display the actual address rather the the
    > "name" of where it is from?
    >

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  3. #3


    Crazy Nukeguy Guest

    Re: 'from' field display

    That is a shame.

    Seems to me that this borders on a security venerability. I only say that
    because it seems to me that the typical end-user would be less likely to
    open an e-mail from Vjljves@xxxxxx <made up example> than if it says "Sam
    Binger" <also made up>. Delivering the right information, to the right
    people, at the right time, can make all the difference. In my case, it
    would make it easier to decide weather or not I am going to block the whole
    domain or just the sender. Such as, Vjljves@xxxxxx I would block the
    domain where as if its from Vjljves@xxxxxx blocking the domain would cause
    a great deal of mail that I actually want to be blocked.

    Thanks for the Ctrl+F3 tip Gary, that will come in handy. However, I don't
    think that would be very useful for lets say my mother who is not computer
    literate at all and would most likely not be able to sort out that info.

    Could someone link me to MSFT feedback for WLM? All, I can find is
    https://feedback.live.com/default.as...omepage&scrx=1
    which seems to be for the online version.... I suppose its sending the
    message either way, but I would prefer to be as targeted a possible.

    -Thanks

    "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:#0uGZq3pJHA.4448@xxxxxx

    > No, that's not possible.
    > If you need to see the email address, press Ctrl+F3.
    >
    > --
    > Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
    >
    >
    > "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:eu32J82pJHA.5880@xxxxxx

    >> Anyone know how to, or if it is possible to, change the information that
    >> is
    >> displayed in the 'from' column to display the actual address rather the
    >> the
    >> "name" of where it is from?
    >>

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  4. #4


    Crazy Nukeguy Guest

    Re: 'from' field display

    Help | Send Feedback

    I feel rather silly.

    "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:#MY4wx4pJHA.824@xxxxxx

    > That is a shame.
    >
    > Seems to me that this borders on a security venerability. I only say that
    > because it seems to me that the typical end-user would be less likely to
    > open an e-mail from Vjljves@xxxxxx <made up example> than if it says
    > "Sam Binger" <also made up>. Delivering the right information, to the
    > right people, at the right time, can make all the difference. In my case,
    > it would make it easier to decide weather or not I am going to block the
    > whole domain or just the sender. Such as, Vjljves@xxxxxx I would block
    > the domain where as if its from Vjljves@xxxxxx blocking the domain would
    > cause a great deal of mail that I actually want to be blocked.
    >
    > Thanks for the Ctrl+F3 tip Gary, that will come in handy. However, I
    > don't think that would be very useful for lets say my mother who is not
    > computer literate at all and would most likely not be able to sort out
    > that info.
    >
    > Could someone link me to MSFT feedback for WLM? All, I can find is
    > https://feedback.live.com/default.as...omepage&scrx=1
    > which seems to be for the online version.... I suppose its sending the
    > message either way, but I would prefer to be as targeted a possible.
    >
    > -Thanks
    >
    > "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:#0uGZq3pJHA.4448@xxxxxx

    >> No, that's not possible.
    >> If you need to see the email address, press Ctrl+F3.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
    >>
    >>
    >> "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:eu32J82pJHA.5880@xxxxxx

    >>> Anyone know how to, or if it is possible to, change the information that
    >>> is
    >>> displayed in the 'from' column to display the actual address rather the
    >>> the
    >>> "name" of where it is from?
    >>>

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  5. #5


    ...winston Guest

    Re: 'from' field display

    I suspect you meant vulnerability(weakness) vs venerability(the adj. form of association for something sacred religious or
    historical). WLM has a long road to travel before it reaches the latter position.

    Since a spammer can forge the sending address as if to appear from yourself, a friend or a contact, I'm not sure how doing so would
    increase security.
    Even so, sending feedback is appropriate, and maybe it should take the form of requesting an additional field in the columns WLM
    can display instead of completely eliminating the current From field content.

    Send Feedback
    The first which you've found
    Open WLM/Click Help/Send Feedback
    or
    https://feedback.live.com/default.as...=wlmaildesktop


    --
    ...winston
    ms-mvp mail


    "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#MY4wx4pJHA.824@xxxxxx

    > That is a shame.
    >
    > Seems to me that this borders on a security venerability. I only say that because it seems to me that the typical end-user would
    > be less likely to open an e-mail from Vjljves@xxxxxx <made up example> than if it says "Sam Binger" <also made up>.
    > Delivering the right information, to the right people, at the right time, can make all the difference. In my case, it would make
    > it easier to decide weather or not I am going to block the whole domain or just the sender. Such as, Vjljves@xxxxxx I would
    > block the domain where as if its from Vjljves@xxxxxx blocking the domain would cause a great deal of mail that I actually want
    > to be blocked.
    >
    > Thanks for the Ctrl+F3 tip Gary, that will come in handy. However, I don't think that would be very useful for lets say my
    > mother who is not computer literate at all and would most likely not be able to sort out that info.
    >
    > Could someone link me to MSFT feedback for WLM? All, I can find is
    > https://feedback.live.com/default.as...omepage&scrx=1 which seems to be for the online version.... I
    > suppose its sending the message either way, but I would prefer to be as targeted a possible.
    >
    > -Thanks
    >
    > "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#0uGZq3pJHA.4448@xxxxxx

    >> No, that's not possible.
    >> If you need to see the email address, press Ctrl+F3.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
    >>
    >>
    >> "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eu32J82pJHA.5880@xxxxxx

    >>> Anyone know how to, or if it is possible to, change the information that is
    >>> displayed in the 'from' column to display the actual address rather the the
    >>> "name" of where it is from?
    >>>

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  6. #6


    Robert Aldwinckle Guest

    Re: 'from' field display



    "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#MY4wx4pJHA.824@xxxxxx

    > That is a shame.
    >
    > Seems to me that this borders on a security venerability. I only say that
    > because it seems to me that the typical end-user would be less likely to
    > open an e-mail from Vjljves@xxxxxx <made up example> than if it says "Sam
    > Binger" <also made up>. Delivering the right information, to the right
    > people, at the right time, can make all the difference. In my case, it
    > would make it easier to decide weather or not I am going to block the whole
    > domain or just the sender. Such as, Vjljves@xxxxxx I would block the
    > domain where as if its from Vjljves@xxxxxx blocking the domain would cause
    > a great deal of mail that I actually want to be blocked.
    >

    > Thanks for the Ctrl+F3 tip Gary, that will come in handy. However, I don't
    > think that would be very useful for lets say my mother who is not computer
    > literate at all and would most likely not be able to sort out that info.

    That shows the whole message source which is more than you need
    and is also more complicated to dismiss. Right-click,Properties, Details
    (or Alt-Enter,Ctrl-Tab) shows just the essential message headers.
    In fact, for E-mail it looks as if just Alt-Enter will do what you want.
    That dialog can be dismissed by pressing Esc (e.g. instead of Alt-F4
    that the Message Source window requires.)

    Also, in the case of questionable E-mail there is a good reason
    to avoid using Ctrl-F3: it requires that the message be opened
    first. You can get the equivalent effect of seeing Message Source
    without opening a message by using the Message Source... button
    at the bottom of the Details tab. Doing that avoids all possibility of
    running unwanted scripts and fetching web beacons from spammers
    (just in case your security settings aren't disabling either of those
    problem features and you are in the habit of opening questionable
    E-mail while in a Working Online state. <w>)


    FYI

    Robert Aldwinckle
    ---


    >
    > Could someone link me to MSFT feedback for WLM? All, I can find is
    > https://feedback.live.com/default.as...omepage&scrx=1
    > which seems to be for the online version.... I suppose its sending the
    > message either way, but I would prefer to be as targeted a possible.
    >
    > -Thanks
    >
    > "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:#0uGZq3pJHA.4448@xxxxxx

    >> No, that's not possible.
    >> If you need to see the email address, press Ctrl+F3.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
    >>
    >>
    >> "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:eu32J82pJHA.5880@xxxxxx

    >>> Anyone know how to, or if it is possible to, change the information that
    >>> is
    >>> displayed in the 'from' column to display the actual address rather the
    >>> the
    >>> "name" of where it is from?
    >>>

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #7


    Crazy Nukeguy Guest

    Re: 'from' field display

    Aye, I did indeed mean vulnerability.

    Though it is true that the sending address can be forged, I find that at
    least 90% of the time, in the case of my inbox that is not the case.

    My feedback suggested displaying the information as it does after you open a
    mail message, as light grey text next to the name, or perhaps in an addition
    column as you mentioned.

    "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:eJQQd25pJHA.6132@xxxxxx

    > I suspect you meant vulnerability(weakness) vs venerability(the adj. form
    > of association for something sacred religious or historical). WLM has a
    > long road to travel before it reaches the latter position.
    >
    > Since a spammer can forge the sending address as if to appear from
    > yourself, a friend or a contact, I'm not sure how doing so would increase
    > security.
    > Even so, sending feedback is appropriate, and maybe it should take the
    > form of requesting an additional field in the columns WLM can display
    > instead of completely eliminating the current From field content.
    >
    > Send Feedback
    > The first which you've found
    > Open WLM/Click Help/Send Feedback
    > or
    > https://feedback.live.com/default.as...=wlmaildesktop
    >
    >
    > --
    > ...winston
    > ms-mvp mail
    >
    >
    > "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:#MY4wx4pJHA.824@xxxxxx

    >> That is a shame.
    >>
    >> Seems to me that this borders on a security venerability. I only say
    >> that because it seems to me that the typical end-user would be less
    >> likely to open an e-mail from Vjljves@xxxxxx <made up example> than if
    >> it says "Sam Binger" <also made up>. Delivering the right information, to
    >> the right people, at the right time, can make all the difference. In my
    >> case, it would make it easier to decide weather or not I am going to
    >> block the whole domain or just the sender. Such as, Vjljves@xxxxxx I
    >> would block the domain where as if its from Vjljves@xxxxxx blocking the
    >> domain would cause a great deal of mail that I actually want to be
    >> blocked.
    >>
    >> Thanks for the Ctrl+F3 tip Gary, that will come in handy. However, I
    >> don't think that would be very useful for lets say my mother who is not
    >> computer literate at all and would most likely not be able to sort out
    >> that info.
    >>
    >> Could someone link me to MSFT feedback for WLM? All, I can find is
    >> https://feedback.live.com/default.as...omepage&scrx=1
    >> which seems to be for the online version.... I suppose its sending the
    >> message either way, but I would prefer to be as targeted a possible.
    >>
    >> -Thanks
    >>
    >> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:#0uGZq3pJHA.4448@xxxxxx

    >>> No, that's not possible.
    >>> If you need to see the email address, press Ctrl+F3.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >>> news:eu32J82pJHA.5880@xxxxxx
    >>>> Anyone know how to, or if it is possible to, change the information
    >>>> that is
    >>>> displayed in the 'from' column to display the actual address rather the
    >>>> the
    >>>> "name" of where it is from?
    >>>>

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  8. #8


    Crazy Nukeguy Guest

    Re: 'from' field display

    I did not realize that ctrl+f3 was opening e-mail... what I was trying to
    avoid in the first place. It does appear that the properties dialog will do
    nicely, thanks.

    "Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ey1FzD#pJHA.5280@xxxxxx

    >
    >
    > "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:#MY4wx4pJHA.824@xxxxxx

    >> That is a shame.
    >>
    >> Seems to me that this borders on a security venerability. I only say
    >> that
    >> because it seems to me that the typical end-user would be less likely to
    >> open an e-mail from Vjljves@xxxxxx <made up example> than if it says
    >> "Sam
    >> Binger" <also made up>. Delivering the right information, to the right
    >> people, at the right time, can make all the difference. In my case, it
    >> would make it easier to decide weather or not I am going to block the
    >> whole
    >> domain or just the sender. Such as, Vjljves@xxxxxx I would block the
    >> domain where as if its from Vjljves@xxxxxx blocking the domain would
    >> cause
    >> a great deal of mail that I actually want to be blocked.
    >>
    >

    >> Thanks for the Ctrl+F3 tip Gary, that will come in handy. However, I
    >> don't
    >> think that would be very useful for lets say my mother who is not
    >> computer
    >> literate at all and would most likely not be able to sort out that info.
    >
    >
    > That shows the whole message source which is more than you need
    > and is also more complicated to dismiss. Right-click,Properties, Details
    > (or Alt-Enter,Ctrl-Tab) shows just the essential message headers.
    > In fact, for E-mail it looks as if just Alt-Enter will do what you want.
    > That dialog can be dismissed by pressing Esc (e.g. instead of Alt-F4
    > that the Message Source window requires.)
    >
    > Also, in the case of questionable E-mail there is a good reason
    > to avoid using Ctrl-F3: it requires that the message be opened
    > first. You can get the equivalent effect of seeing Message Source
    > without opening a message by using the Message Source... button
    > at the bottom of the Details tab. Doing that avoids all possibility of
    > running unwanted scripts and fetching web beacons from spammers
    > (just in case your security settings aren't disabling either of those
    > problem features and you are in the habit of opening questionable
    > E-mail while in a Working Online state. <w>)
    >
    >
    > FYI
    >
    > Robert Aldwinckle
    > ---
    >
    >

    >>
    >> Could someone link me to MSFT feedback for WLM? All, I can find is
    >> https://feedback.live.com/default.as...omepage&scrx=1
    >> which seems to be for the online version.... I suppose its sending the
    >> message either way, but I would prefer to be as targeted a possible.
    >>
    >> -Thanks
    >>
    >> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:#0uGZq3pJHA.4448@xxxxxx

    >>> No, that's not possible.
    >>> If you need to see the email address, press Ctrl+F3.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >>> news:eu32J82pJHA.5880@xxxxxx
    >>>> Anyone know how to, or if it is possible to, change the information
    >>>> that
    >>>> is
    >>>> displayed in the 'from' column to display the actual address rather the
    >>>> the
    >>>> "name" of where it is from?
    >>>>
    >

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  9. #9


    ...winston Guest

    Re: 'from' field display

    Good idea, thanks for the info.

    --
    ...winston
    ms-mvp mail

    "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:usnxpR#pJHA.504@xxxxxx

    > Aye, I did indeed mean vulnerability.
    >
    > Though it is true that the sending address can be forged, I find that at
    > least 90% of the time, in the case of my inbox that is not the case.
    >
    > My feedback suggested displaying the information as it does after you open a
    > mail message, as light grey text next to the name, or perhaps in an addition
    > column as you mentioned.
    >
    > "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:eJQQd25pJHA.6132@xxxxxx

    >> I suspect you meant vulnerability(weakness) vs venerability(the adj. form
    >> of association for something sacred religious or historical). WLM has a
    >> long road to travel before it reaches the latter position.
    >>
    >> Since a spammer can forge the sending address as if to appear from
    >> yourself, a friend or a contact, I'm not sure how doing so would increase
    >> security.
    >> Even so, sending feedback is appropriate, and maybe it should take the
    >> form of requesting an additional field in the columns WLM can display
    >> instead of completely eliminating the current From field content.
    >>
    >> Send Feedback
    >> The first which you've found
    >> Open WLM/Click Help/Send Feedback
    >> or
    >> https://feedback.live.com/default.as...=wlmaildesktop
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> ...winston
    >> ms-mvp mail
    >>
    >>
    >> "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:#MY4wx4pJHA.824@xxxxxx

    >>> That is a shame.
    >>>
    >>> Seems to me that this borders on a security venerability. I only say
    >>> that because it seems to me that the typical end-user would be less
    >>> likely to open an e-mail from Vjljves@xxxxxx <made up example> than if
    >>> it says "Sam Binger" <also made up>. Delivering the right information, to
    >>> the right people, at the right time, can make all the difference. In my
    >>> case, it would make it easier to decide weather or not I am going to
    >>> block the whole domain or just the sender. Such as, Vjljves@xxxxxx I
    >>> would block the domain where as if its from Vjljves@xxxxxx blocking the
    >>> domain would cause a great deal of mail that I actually want to be
    >>> blocked.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks for the Ctrl+F3 tip Gary, that will come in handy. However, I
    >>> don't think that would be very useful for lets say my mother who is not
    >>> computer literate at all and would most likely not be able to sort out
    >>> that info.
    >>>
    >>> Could someone link me to MSFT feedback for WLM? All, I can find is
    >>> https://feedback.live.com/default.as...omepage&scrx=1
    >>> which seems to be for the online version.... I suppose its sending the
    >>> message either way, but I would prefer to be as targeted a possible.
    >>>
    >>> -Thanks
    >>>
    >>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >>> news:#0uGZq3pJHA.4448@xxxxxx
    >>>> No, that's not possible.
    >>>> If you need to see the email address, press Ctrl+F3.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >>>> news:eu32J82pJHA.5880@xxxxxx
    >>>>> Anyone know how to, or if it is possible to, change the information
    >>>>> that is
    >>>>> displayed in the 'from' column to display the actual address rather the
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> "name" of where it is from?
    >>>>>

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  10. #10


    Robert Aldwinckle Guest

    Re: 'from' field display

    "Crazy Nukeguy" <crazynukeguy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#FTHbU#pJHA.4840@xxxxxx

    > I did not realize that ctrl+f3 was opening e-mail...
    > what I was trying to avoid in the first place.

    Ctrl+F3 requires a message to be open for it to work.
    So you probably have at least the Reading pane open.
    Same thing. The message is opened; if it's HTML based,
    components such as images, etc. can be fetched
    and rendered, including any scripts that can be run.


    > It does appear that the properties dialog will do nicely, thanks.

    ; )



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