I have been having a problem when I shut down Live Mail, it does not
completly shut down, it leaves the MLMAIL.EXE running. So when I try to
restart Live Mail it does not come up. I have to Shutdown MLMAIL.EXE, before
restarting Live Mail. Any one else having this problem?
--
David

I have the same problem if I start WLM immediately after closing it. If I
wait a couple of minutes it starts OK

"dlfleish" wrote:

> I have been having a problem when I shut down Live Mail, it does not
> completly shut down, it leaves the MLMAIL.EXE running. So when I try to
> restart Live Mail it does not come up. I have to Shutdown MLMAIL.EXE, before
> restarting Live Mail. Any one else having this problem?
> --
> David

I have the same problem with wlmail.exe staying in memory after closing the
program. I do not finding it resolving itself by letting it be. I run Vista
Home Prem 64-Bit. Windows Live Mail Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8064.0206)
BernieJ

"dlfleish" wrote:

> I have been having a problem when I shut down Live Mail, it does not
> completly shut down, it leaves the MLMAIL.EXE running. So when I try to
> restart Live Mail it does not come up. I have to Shutdown MLMAIL.EXE, before
> restarting Live Mail. Any one else having this problem?
> --
> David

Some anti-virus programs have been known to cause this problem if they
are set to scan e-mail.

With some anti-virus (and anti-spam) programs, simply disabling the
e-mail scanning function doesn't really disable it. It simply tells the
program not to flag any messages. It still processes all the messages
and may still cause problems. What you may need to do is uninstall the
anti-virus program, then reinstall it using a custom install option and
unselect the e-mail scanning component for installation.

As long as your anti-virus software is set to scan files as they are
opened, scanning e-mail as it downloads or sends is unnecessary and
prone to problems.

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm



"dlfleish" <dlfleish@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:2FD038A5-408E-40F7-8E94-26C6C3914880@xxxxxx

> I have been having a problem when I shut down Live Mail, it does not
> completly shut down, it leaves the MLMAIL.EXE running. So when I try
> to
> restart Live Mail it does not come up. I have to Shutdown MLMAIL.EXE,
> before
> restarting Live Mail. Any one else having this problem?
> --
> David

"BernieJ" <BernieJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message news120AB95-E565-4480-8D13-07FEF5B5B768@xxxxxx

> I have the same problem with wlmail.exe staying in memory after closing the
> program. I do not finding it resolving itself by letting it be.

Try changing your compaction interval to 1 and then tell us
if you get the prompt each time you close.

Also, whatever you do don't try killing the task (e.g. with Task Manager)
if it is still doing something, e.g. if the WLMail.exe I/O Writes count
is still increasing or while the Virtual Memory statistic is dropping.
Those are signs that it is still cleaning up after your close request,
so aborting too soon could lead to corruption.


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
---

> I run Vista
> Home Prem 64-Bit. Windows Live Mail Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8064.0206)
> BernieJ
>
> "dlfleish" wrote:
>

>> I have been having a problem when I shut down Live Mail, it does not
>> completly shut down, it leaves the MLMAIL.EXE running. So when I try to
>> restart Live Mail it does not come up. I have to Shutdown MLMAIL.EXE, before
>> restarting Live Mail. Any one else having this problem?
>> --
>> David

Setting compacting interval to one has initially seemed to fix the problem.
However, this appears to be a real bug. Running a quad-core with 8 gigs of
ram, I don't really believe that windows Live mail was actually doing
anything 15 minutes after closing the program. Whatever it is, it needs to
be fixed. The problem was also present on my notebook running core 2 duo
7250 with 4gb ram. For some reason, windows live mail acts like some of my
relatives and deludes itself into thinking it is at work - even when it quit
doing anything constructive long ago.
Bernie

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

>
>
> "BernieJ" <BernieJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message news120AB95-E565-4480-8D13-07FEF5B5B768@xxxxxx

> > I have the same problem with wlmail.exe staying in memory after closing the
> > program. I do not finding it resolving itself by letting it be.

>
>
> Try changing your compaction interval to 1 and then tell us
> if you get the prompt each time you close.
>
> Also, whatever you do don't try killing the task (e.g. with Task Manager)
> if it is still doing something, e.g. if the WLMail.exe I/O Writes count
> is still increasing or while the Virtual Memory statistic is dropping.
> Those are signs that it is still cleaning up after your close request,
> so aborting too soon could lead to corruption.
>
>
> Good luck
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>

> > I run Vista
> > Home Prem 64-Bit. Windows Live Mail Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8064.0206)
> > BernieJ
> >
> > "dlfleish" wrote:
> >

> >> I have been having a problem when I shut down Live Mail, it does not
> >> completly shut down, it leaves the MLMAIL.EXE running. So when I try to
> >> restart Live Mail it does not come up. I have to Shutdown MLMAIL.EXE, before
> >> restarting Live Mail. Any one else having this problem?
> >> --
> >> David

>
>
>

I'm running Windows Live One Care so, whatever the underlying issue, it's a
Microsoft issue.
Bernie

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

> Some anti-virus programs have been known to cause this problem if they
> are set to scan e-mail.
>
> With some anti-virus (and anti-spam) programs, simply disabling the
> e-mail scanning function doesn't really disable it. It simply tells the
> program not to flag any messages. It still processes all the messages
> and may still cause problems. What you may need to do is uninstall the
> anti-virus program, then reinstall it using a custom install option and
> unselect the e-mail scanning component for installation.
>
> As long as your anti-virus software is set to scan files as they are
> opened, scanning e-mail as it downloads or sends is unnecessary and
> prone to problems.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "dlfleish" <dlfleish@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:2FD038A5-408E-40F7-8E94-26C6C3914880@xxxxxx

> > I have been having a problem when I shut down Live Mail, it does not
> > completly shut down, it leaves the MLMAIL.EXE running. So when I try
> > to
> > restart Live Mail it does not come up. I have to Shutdown MLMAIL.EXE,
> > before
> > restarting Live Mail. Any one else having this problem?
> > --
> > David

>
>
>

"BernieJ" <BernieJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1F7D00A6-401E-411E-A1DC-95042B8EF49C@xxxxxx

> A Follow-up. Setting the compating interval to one does not completely fix
> the issue, but does seem to lower the frequency. I returned home after an
> absence of over an hour to find that Windows Live Mail would not open. it
> was still hanging around in memory.

And do you think that that would have been after seeing a prompt or not?

> After terminating the process, I was
> able to re-start.
> This needs a fix.
> B
>
> "BernieJ" wrote:
>

>> Setting compacting interval to one has initially seemed to fix the problem.
>> However, this appears to be a real bug. Running a quad-core with 8 gigs of
>> ram, I don't really believe that windows Live mail was actually doing
>> anything 15 minutes after closing the program. Whatever it is, it needs to
>> be fixed. The problem was also present on my notebook running core 2 duo
>> 7250 with 4gb ram. For some reason, windows live mail acts like some of my
>> relatives and deludes itself into thinking it is at work - even when it quit
>> doing anything constructive long ago.
>> Bernie
>>
>> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>>

>> >
>> >
>> > "BernieJ" <BernieJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message news120AB95-E565-4480-8D13-07FEF5B5B768@xxxxxx
>> > > I have the same problem with wlmail.exe staying in memory after closing the
>> > > program. I do not finding it resolving itself by letting it be.
>> >
>> >
>> > Try changing your compaction interval to 1 and then tell us
>> > if you get the prompt each time you close.
>> >
>> > Also, whatever you do don't try killing the task (e.g. with Task Manager)
>> > if it is still doing something, e.g. if the WLMail.exe I/O Writes count
>> > is still increasing or while the Virtual Memory statistic is dropping.
>> > Those are signs that it is still cleaning up after your close request,
>> > so aborting too soon could lead to corruption.
>> >
>> >
>> > Good luck
>> >
>> > Robert Aldwinckle
>> > ---
>> >
>> >
>> > > I run Vista
>> > > Home Prem 64-Bit. Windows Live Mail Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8064.0206)
>> > > BernieJ
>> > >
>> > > "dlfleish" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I have been having a problem when I shut down Live Mail, it does not
>> > >> completly shut down, it leaves the MLMAIL.EXE running. So when I try to
>> > >> restart Live Mail it does not come up. I have to Shutdown MLMAIL.EXE, before
>> > >> restarting Live Mail. Any one else having this problem?
>> > >> --
>> > >> David
>> >
>> >
>> >

Same here. I once had only 1 Live Mail icon visible when the application
was open. Now I have 2 icons: one near the pearl and one near the audio
icon. When I close the WLM application the icon near the pearl disappears,
however, the icon near the audio remains visible and continues to notify of
new emails. If I exit from this icon I have difficulty starting WLM again.

I have the same security software as when I had only the one icon.

--



"BernieJ" <BernieJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:3C4ED9D6-C2C0-4E6A-95A1-8745A89493D5@xxxxxx
I'm running Windows Live One Care so, whatever the underlying issue, it's a
Microsoft issue.
Bernie

"Michael Santovec" wrote:

> Some anti-virus programs have been known to cause this problem if they
> are set to scan e-mail.
>
> With some anti-virus (and anti-spam) programs, simply disabling the
> e-mail scanning function doesn't really disable it. It simply tells the
> program not to flag any messages. It still processes all the messages
> and may still cause problems. What you may need to do is uninstall the
> anti-virus program, then reinstall it using a custom install option and
> unselect the e-mail scanning component for installation.
>
> As long as your anti-virus software is set to scan files as they are
> opened, scanning e-mail as it downloads or sends is unnecessary and
> prone to problems.
>
> --
>
> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>
>
>
> "dlfleish" <dlfleish@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:2FD038A5-408E-40F7-8E94-26C6C3914880@xxxxxx

> > I have been having a problem when I shut down Live Mail, it does not
> > completly shut down, it leaves the MLMAIL.EXE running. So when I try
> > to
> > restart Live Mail it does not come up. I have to Shutdown MLMAIL.EXE,
> > before
> > restarting Live Mail. Any one else having this problem?
> > --
> > David

>
>
>

Does Pearl mean the Windows Vista Orb ?
Does near the audio icon mean in the Notification area(formerly called the Systray) ?

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Nissi1" <Nissi1@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#VVz$eovJHA.1212@xxxxxx

> Same here. I once had only 1 Live Mail icon visible when the application
> was open. Now I have 2 icons: one near the pearl and one near the audio
> icon. When I close the WLM application the icon near the pearl disappears,
> however, the icon near the audio remains visible and continues to notify of
> new emails. If I exit from this icon I have difficulty starting WLM again.
>
> I have the same security software as when I had only the one icon.
>
> --
>
>
>
> "BernieJ" <BernieJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:3C4ED9D6-C2C0-4E6A-95A1-8745A89493D5@xxxxxx
> I'm running Windows Live One Care so, whatever the underlying issue, it's a
> Microsoft issue.
> Bernie
>
> "Michael Santovec" wrote:
>

>> Some anti-virus programs have been known to cause this problem if they
>> are set to scan e-mail.
>>
>> With some anti-virus (and anti-spam) programs, simply disabling the
>> e-mail scanning function doesn't really disable it. It simply tells the
>> program not to flag any messages. It still processes all the messages
>> and may still cause problems. What you may need to do is uninstall the
>> anti-virus program, then reinstall it using a custom install option and
>> unselect the e-mail scanning component for installation.
>>
>> As long as your anti-virus software is set to scan files as they are
>> opened, scanning e-mail as it downloads or sends is unnecessary and
>> prone to problems.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> "dlfleish" <dlfleish@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:2FD038A5-408E-40F7-8E94-26C6C3914880@xxxxxx

>> > I have been having a problem when I shut down Live Mail, it does not
>> > completly shut down, it leaves the MLMAIL.EXE running. So when I try
>> > to
>> > restart Live Mail it does not come up. I have to Shutdown MLMAIL.EXE,
>> > before
>> > restarting Live Mail. Any one else having this problem?
>> > --
>> > David

>>
>>
>>