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Old 04-29-2009   #1 (permalink)
Dave Pratt


 
 

Password incompatability between Windows Live and MSN (POP 3)?

I have attempted (multiple times) to update my Windows Live Hotmail sign-in
password to a stronger variant, which works fine online and initially with
the Windows Live Mail desktop application for my existing POP 3 MSN account.
At some point (in the subsequent 24 to 48 hours after changing the password)
the MSN mail server refuses to accept either the new password or the original
password when attempting to sync using the desktop application. The only way
I have been able to resolve this is to reset all (Windows Live and desktop
MSN mail account) passwords back to the original MSN password.

I would like to implement a stronger password, but not sure how to solve the
problem. Any suggestions would be greatley appreciated.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-29-2009   #2 (permalink)
t-4-2


 
 

Re: Password incompatability between Windows Live and MSN (POP 3)?

Depending on your mail client. Some do not like symbols, i.e. / ( ) * etc.
Some accept a few and reject a few.
The best bet is not to use symbols at all.
t-4-2


"Dave Pratt" <DavePratt@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4ECB47B1-825C-47E7-AB65-AC10BE5D549C@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I have attempted (multiple times) to update my Windows Live Hotmail
> sign-in
> password to a stronger variant, which works fine online and initially with
> the Windows Live Mail desktop application for my existing POP 3 MSN
> account.
> At some point (in the subsequent 24 to 48 hours after changing the
> password)
> the MSN mail server refuses to accept either the new password or the
> original
> password when attempting to sync using the desktop application. The only
> way
> I have been able to resolve this is to reset all (Windows Live and desktop
> MSN mail account) passwords back to the original MSN password.
>
> I would like to implement a stronger password, but not sure how to solve
> the
> problem. Any suggestions would be greatley appreciated.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-29-2009   #3 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Password incompatability between Windows Live and MSN (POP 3)?

The mail client doesn't care. :-)
The mail provider sets the rules as to which characters are acceptable
for password use.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23wH1CpNyJHA.1416@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Depending on your mail client. Some do not like symbols, i.e. / ( ) * etc.
> Some accept a few and reject a few.
> The best bet is not to use symbols at all.
> t-4-2
>
>
> "Dave Pratt" <DavePratt@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:4ECB47B1-825C-47E7-AB65-AC10BE5D549C@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I have attempted (multiple times) to update my Windows Live Hotmail
>> sign-in
>> password to a stronger variant, which works fine online and initially with
>> the Windows Live Mail desktop application for my existing POP 3 MSN
>> account.
>> At some point (in the subsequent 24 to 48 hours after changing the
>> password)
>> the MSN mail server refuses to accept either the new password or the
>> original
>> password when attempting to sync using the desktop application. The only
>> way
>> I have been able to resolve this is to reset all (Windows Live and desktop
>> MSN mail account) passwords back to the original MSN password.
>>
>> I would like to implement a stronger password, but not sure how to solve
>> the
>> problem. Any suggestions would be greatley appreciated.
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-30-2009   #4 (permalink)
Dave Pratt


 
 

Re: Password incompatability between Windows Live and MSN (POP 3)?

Thanks to both you, Gary, and t-4-2 for your advice which caused me to
recheck the password rules for Windows Live. My mistake was trying to
generate a 20-character password when the maximum allowed is 16. As you each
pointed out, the mail client sets the rules. Windows Live rules apply to
hotmail and MSN mail accounts. Windows Live does permit symbols.


"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> The mail client doesn't care. :-)
> The mail provider sets the rules as to which characters are acceptable
> for password use.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23wH1CpNyJHA.1416@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Depending on your mail client. Some do not like symbols, i.e. / ( ) * etc.
> > Some accept a few and reject a few.
> > The best bet is not to use symbols at all.
> > t-4-2
> >
> >
> > "Dave Pratt" <DavePratt@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:4ECB47B1-825C-47E7-AB65-AC10BE5D549C@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >> I have attempted (multiple times) to update my Windows Live Hotmail
> >> sign-in
> >> password to a stronger variant, which works fine online and initially with
> >> the Windows Live Mail desktop application for my existing POP 3 MSN
> >> account.
> >> At some point (in the subsequent 24 to 48 hours after changing the
> >> password)
> >> the MSN mail server refuses to accept either the new password or the
> >> original
> >> password when attempting to sync using the desktop application. The only
> >> way
> >> I have been able to resolve this is to reset all (Windows Live and desktop
> >> MSN mail account) passwords back to the original MSN password.
> >>
> >> I would like to implement a stronger password, but not sure how to solve
> >> the
> >> problem. Any suggestions would be greatley appreciated.
> >>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-30-2009   #5 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Password incompatability between Windows Live and MSN (POP 3)?

I think you meant, the mail provider sets the rules.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)

"Dave Pratt" <DavePratt@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:19E4AE4C-95AD-4373-927F-4C69D1F7970D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thanks to both you, Gary, and t-4-2 for your advice which caused me to
> recheck the password rules for Windows Live. My mistake was trying to
> generate a 20-character password when the maximum allowed is 16. As you each
> pointed out, the mail client sets the rules. Windows Live rules apply to
> hotmail and MSN mail accounts. Windows Live does permit symbols.
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> The mail client doesn't care. :-)
>> The mail provider sets the rules as to which characters are acceptable
>> for password use.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>>
>>
>> "t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23wH1CpNyJHA.1416@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Depending on your mail client. Some do not like symbols, i.e. / ( ) * etc.
>> > Some accept a few and reject a few.
>> > The best bet is not to use symbols at all.
>> > t-4-2
>> >
>> >
>> > "Dave Pratt" <DavePratt@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:4ECB47B1-825C-47E7-AB65-AC10BE5D549C@xxxxxx
>> >> I have attempted (multiple times) to update my Windows Live Hotmail
>> >> sign-in
>> >> password to a stronger variant, which works fine online and initially with
>> >> the Windows Live Mail desktop application for my existing POP 3 MSN
>> >> account.
>> >> At some point (in the subsequent 24 to 48 hours after changing the
>> >> password)
>> >> the MSN mail server refuses to accept either the new password or the
>> >> original
>> >> password when attempting to sync using the desktop application. The only
>> >> way
>> >> I have been able to resolve this is to reset all (Windows Live and desktop
>> >> MSN mail account) passwords back to the original MSN password.
>> >>
>> >> I would like to implement a stronger password, but not sure how to solve
>> >> the
>> >> problem. Any suggestions would be greatley appreciated.
>> >>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 04-30-2009   #6 (permalink)
Dave Pratt


 
 

Re: Password incompatability between Windows Live and MSN (POP 3)?

Yes, my mistake.

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> I think you meant, the mail provider sets the rules.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
> "Dave Pratt" <DavePratt@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:19E4AE4C-95AD-4373-927F-4C69D1F7970D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Thanks to both you, Gary, and t-4-2 for your advice which caused me to
> > recheck the password rules for Windows Live. My mistake was trying to
> > generate a 20-character password when the maximum allowed is 16. As you each
> > pointed out, the mail client sets the rules. Windows Live rules apply to
> > hotmail and MSN mail accounts. Windows Live does permit symbols.
> >
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> The mail client doesn't care. :-)
> >> The mail provider sets the rules as to which characters are acceptable
> >> for password use.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
> >>
> >>
> >> "t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23wH1CpNyJHA.1416@xxxxxx
> >> > Depending on your mail client. Some do not like symbols, i.e. / ( ) * etc.
> >> > Some accept a few and reject a few.
> >> > The best bet is not to use symbols at all.
> >> > t-4-2
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Dave Pratt" <DavePratt@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > news:4ECB47B1-825C-47E7-AB65-AC10BE5D549C@xxxxxx
> >> >> I have attempted (multiple times) to update my Windows Live Hotmail
> >> >> sign-in
> >> >> password to a stronger variant, which works fine online and initially with
> >> >> the Windows Live Mail desktop application for my existing POP 3 MSN
> >> >> account.
> >> >> At some point (in the subsequent 24 to 48 hours after changing the
> >> >> password)
> >> >> the MSN mail server refuses to accept either the new password or the
> >> >> original
> >> >> password when attempting to sync using the desktop application. The only
> >> >> way
> >> >> I have been able to resolve this is to reset all (Windows Live and desktop
> >> >> MSN mail account) passwords back to the original MSN password.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to implement a stronger password, but not sure how to solve
> >> >> the
> >> >> problem. Any suggestions would be greatley appreciated.
> >> >>
> >>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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