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Old 05-26-2009   #1 (permalink)
Chambro


 
 

Reading Pane Safety

The Layout menu has an option to use the reading pane to see information
about a sender or message without opening it. How does that work?
Is that a safe way to prevent spammers from getting an acknowledgement that
they have reached a valid e-mail address?

--
Chambro

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Old 05-26-2009   #2 (permalink)
Ron Sommer


 
 

Re: Reading Pane Safety

The reading pane is the same as opening the message.
Two things you can do:
read all messages in plain text
go offline before reading email
--
Ron Sommer

"Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1AE69064-EC11-420A-AD42-DD7D2A88848D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> The Layout menu has an option to use the reading pane to see information
> about a sender or message without opening it. How does that work?
> Is that a safe way to prevent spammers from getting an acknowledgement
> that
> they have reached a valid e-mail address?
>
> --
> Chambro
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-26-2009   #3 (permalink)
John Inzer


 
 

Re: Reading Pane Safety

Chambro wrote:
Quote:

> The Layout menu has an option to use the reading pane to see
> information about a sender or message without opening it. How does
> that work?
> Is that a safe way to prevent spammers from getting an
> acknowledgement that they have reached a valid e-mail address?
=================================
Try selecting a message and type...Ctrl+F3.

--

J. Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk


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Old 05-26-2009   #4 (permalink)
Chambro


 
 

Re: Reading Pane Safety

Thank you Ron and John for your reply. Is the statement about the Reading
Pane on the Layout Menu not true? It says "you can use the reading pane to
see information about a message or the sender without opening it."

--
Chambro


"Ron Sommer" wrote:
Quote:

> The reading pane is the same as opening the message.
> Two things you can do:
> read all messages in plain text
> go offline before reading email
> --
> Ron Sommer
>
> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1AE69064-EC11-420A-AD42-DD7D2A88848D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > The Layout menu has an option to use the reading pane to see information
> > about a sender or message without opening it. How does that work?
> > Is that a safe way to prevent spammers from getting an acknowledgement
> > that
> > they have reached a valid e-mail address?
> >
> > --
> > Chambro
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-26-2009   #5 (permalink)
Ron Sommer


 
 

Re: Reading Pane Safety

You are not opening it in its own window.
--
Ron Sommer

"Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:E95CDC79-AEAE-4315-AA98-0DC80B9BEFF6@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thank you Ron and John for your reply. Is the statement about the Reading
> Pane on the Layout Menu not true? It says "you can use the reading pane to
> see information about a message or the sender without opening it."
>
> --
> Chambro
>
>
> "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> The reading pane is the same as opening the message.
>> Two things you can do:
>> read all messages in plain text
>> go offline before reading email
>> --
>> Ron Sommer
>>
>> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:1AE69064-EC11-420A-AD42-DD7D2A88848D@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > The Layout menu has an option to use the reading pane to see
>> > information
>> > about a sender or message without opening it. How does that work?
>> > Is that a safe way to prevent spammers from getting an acknowledgement
>> > that
>> > they have reached a valid e-mail address?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Chambro
>>
>>
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Old 05-26-2009   #6 (permalink)
Chambro


 
 

Re: Reading Pane Safety

If it is not being opened then the reading pane is NOT the same as opening
the message and the reading pane should be a secure means of inspecting a
message before opening it. I do not understand how this is possible.
--
Chambro


"Ron Sommer" wrote:
Quote:

> You are not opening it in its own window.
> --
> Ron Sommer
>
> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:E95CDC79-AEAE-4315-AA98-0DC80B9BEFF6@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Thank you Ron and John for your reply. Is the statement about the Reading
> > Pane on the Layout Menu not true? It says "you can use the reading pane to
> > see information about a message or the sender without opening it."
> >
> > --
> > Chambro
> >
> >
> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> The reading pane is the same as opening the message.
> >> Two things you can do:
> >> read all messages in plain text
> >> go offline before reading email
> >> --
> >> Ron Sommer
> >>
> >> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:1AE69064-EC11-420A-AD42-DD7D2A88848D@xxxxxx
> >> > The Layout menu has an option to use the reading pane to see
> >> > information
> >> > about a sender or message without opening it. How does that work?
> >> > Is that a safe way to prevent spammers from getting an acknowledgement
> >> > that
> >> > they have reached a valid e-mail address?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Chambro
> >>
> >>
>
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Old 05-27-2009   #7 (permalink)
Peter.R


 
 

Re: Reading Pane Safety


For safety reasons, you cannot preview a message in the Junk e-mail folder.

--
Cheers,
Peter.R
(Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 2009 14.0.8064.0206)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare

"Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:10E28D2F-341A-4F52-A0D9-6B35B9D3AB0B@xxxxxx

Quote:

> If it is not being opened then the reading pane is NOT the same as opening
> the message and the reading pane should be a secure means of inspecting a
> message before opening it. I do not understand how this is possible.
> --
> Chambro
>
>
> "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> You are not opening it in its own window.
>> --
>> Ron Sommer
>>
>> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:E95CDC79-AEAE-4315-AA98-0DC80B9BEFF6@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>> > Thank you Ron and John for your reply. Is the statement about the Reading
>> > Pane on the Layout Menu not true? It says "you can use the reading pane to
>> > see information about a message or the sender without opening it."
>> >
>> > --
>> > Chambro
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The reading pane is the same as opening the message.
>> >> Two things you can do:
>> >> read all messages in plain text
>> >> go offline before reading email
>> >> --
>> >> Ron Sommer
>> >>
>> >> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:1AE69064-EC11-420A-AD42-DD7D2A88848D@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>> >> > The Layout menu has an option to use the reading pane to see
>> >> > information
>> >> > about a sender or message without opening it. How does that work?
>> >> > Is that a safe way to prevent spammers from getting an acknowledgement
>> >> > that
>> >> > they have reached a valid e-mail address?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Chambro
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Old 05-27-2009   #8 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Reading Pane Safety

A message in the reading pane is being opened, just not in its own window.
It's a matter of semantics, i.e., how you define 'opening'.
The security implications are the same either way.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:10E28D2F-341A-4F52-A0D9-6B35B9D3AB0B@xxxxxx
Quote:

> If it is not being opened then the reading pane is NOT the same as opening
> the message and the reading pane should be a secure means of inspecting a
> message before opening it. I do not understand how this is possible.
> --
> Chambro
>
>
> "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> You are not opening it in its own window.
>> --
>> Ron Sommer
>>
>> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:E95CDC79-AEAE-4315-AA98-0DC80B9BEFF6@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Thank you Ron and John for your reply. Is the statement about the Reading
>> > Pane on the Layout Menu not true? It says "you can use the reading pane to
>> > see information about a message or the sender without opening it."
>> >
>> > --
>> > Chambro
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The reading pane is the same as opening the message.
>> >> Two things you can do:
>> >> read all messages in plain text
>> >> go offline before reading email
>> >> --
>> >> Ron Sommer
>> >>
>> >> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:1AE69064-EC11-420A-AD42-DD7D2A88848D@xxxxxx
>> >> > The Layout menu has an option to use the reading pane to see
>> >> > information
>> >> > about a sender or message without opening it. How does that work?
>> >> > Is that a safe way to prevent spammers from getting an acknowledgement
>> >> > that
>> >> > they have reached a valid e-mail address?
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Chambro
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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Old 05-27-2009   #9 (permalink)
Chambro


 
 

Re: Reading Pane Safety

Thank you for your reply.
I was not trying to preview the message in the Junk e-mail folder, but the
fact that you can't, as you pointed out, tells me that the reading pane does
in fact open the message and therefore is not a secure way to preview the
message or its sender. As far as I know, clicking on properties of a message
allows you to see it in plain text form and therefore should be safe, but
again, I am not sure of this.
--
Chambro


"Peter.R" wrote:
Quote:

>
> For safety reasons, you cannot preview a message in the Junk e-mail folder.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Peter.R
> (Windows Vista Home Premium with Windows Live Mail 2009 14.0.8064.0206)
> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>
> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:10E28D2F-341A-4F52-A0D9-6B35B9D3AB0B@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

> > If it is not being opened then the reading pane is NOT the same as opening
> > the message and the reading pane should be a secure means of inspecting a
> > message before opening it. I do not understand how this is possible.
> > --
> > Chambro
> >
> >
> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> You are not opening it in its own window.
> >> --
> >> Ron Sommer
> >>
> >> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:E95CDC79-AEAE-4315-AA98-0DC80B9BEFF6@xxxxxx
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> > Thank you Ron and John for your reply. Is the statement about the Reading
> >> > Pane on the Layout Menu not true? It says "you can use the reading pane to
> >> > see information about a message or the sender without opening it."
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Chambro
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The reading pane is the same as opening the message.
> >> >> Two things you can do:
> >> >> read all messages in plain text
> >> >> go offline before reading email
> >> >> --
> >> >> Ron Sommer
> >> >>
> >> >> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1AE69064-EC11-420A-AD42-DD7D2A88848D@xxxxxx
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> >> > The Layout menu has an option to use the reading pane to see
> >> >> > information
> >> >> > about a sender or message without opening it. How does that work?
> >> >> > Is that a safe way to prevent spammers from getting an acknowledgement
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > they have reached a valid e-mail address?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Chambro
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-27-2009   #10 (permalink)
Chambro


 
 

Re: Reading Pane Safety

Thank you for your reply. I agree with you. There is no security in opening a
message in the reading pane. The message presented in the pop-up is
mis-leading and gives a false sense of security. As far as I know, the only
way to safely preview a message is to look at its properties which is
presented in plain text. Thanks again.
--
Chambro


"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> A message in the reading pane is being opened, just not in its own window.
> It's a matter of semantics, i.e., how you define 'opening'.
> The security implications are the same either way.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:10E28D2F-341A-4F52-A0D9-6B35B9D3AB0B@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > If it is not being opened then the reading pane is NOT the same as opening
> > the message and the reading pane should be a secure means of inspecting a
> > message before opening it. I do not understand how this is possible.
> > --
> > Chambro
> >
> >
> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> You are not opening it in its own window.
> >> --
> >> Ron Sommer
> >>
> >> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:E95CDC79-AEAE-4315-AA98-0DC80B9BEFF6@xxxxxx
> >> > Thank you Ron and John for your reply. Is the statement about the Reading
> >> > Pane on the Layout Menu not true? It says "you can use the reading pane to
> >> > see information about a message or the sender without opening it."
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Chambro
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Ron Sommer" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The reading pane is the same as opening the message.
> >> >> Two things you can do:
> >> >> read all messages in plain text
> >> >> go offline before reading email
> >> >> --
> >> >> Ron Sommer
> >> >>
> >> >> "Chambro" <Chambro@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:1AE69064-EC11-420A-AD42-DD7D2A88848D@xxxxxx
> >> >> > The Layout menu has an option to use the reading pane to see
> >> >> > information
> >> >> > about a sender or message without opening it. How does that work?
> >> >> > Is that a safe way to prevent spammers from getting an acknowledgement
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > they have reached a valid e-mail address?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Chambro
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
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