Hi there,

I started to use Windows Live Mail a few weeks ago and I don't understand how to do a thing, that was easy to solve in Outlook.

I want my WLM to store e-mails received from persons who are members of a specified address book in a separate folder. Let's say I have an address book called Clients, and a folder named Client's Mails. I want all my emails from my "Clients" to be delivered in the Client's Mails folder. How can I do this?

I though the solution is:
- make a rule: "Where the from line contains...." and double click on the address book, so it adds all my contacts from this address book.

OK, but the problem is, that this rule adds e-mail addresses to check. So, if I have a contact with Firstname Lastname in my address book, in the from line, in the message he sends me, he will appear as FROM: Firstname Lastname, and not from firstname.lastname@mail.ext ... So the rule does not apply.

Does anybody found a solution for this or does anybody have the some problem?

Thanks in advance for your help!

I have a rule to color my messages in newsgroups. To get the rule to work,
I have if From email address or name.
--
Ron Sommer

"CiZsolt" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hi there,
>
> I started to use Windows Live Mail a few weeks ago and I don't
> understand how to do a thing, that was easy to solve in Outlook.
>
> I want my WLM to store e-mails received from persons who are members of
> a specified address book in a separate folder. Let's say I have an
> address book called Clients, and a folder named Client's Mails. I want
> all my emails from my "Clients" to be delivered in the Client's Mails
> folder. How can I do this?
>
> I though the solution is:
> - make a rule: "Where the from line contains...." and double click on
> the address book, so it adds all my contacts from this address book.
>
> OK, but the problem is, that this rule adds e-mail addresses to check.
> So, if I have a contact with Firstname Lastname in my address book, in
> the from line, in the message he sends me, he will appear as FROM:
> Firstname Lastname, and not from firstname.lastname@xxxxxx ... So the
> rule does not apply.
>
> Does anybody found a solution for this or does anybody have the some
> problem?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
>
> --
> CiZsolt

Yes, it is an alternative, but to write "email or fullname" for each of them, sounds a bit strange.. And, what happens if I add a new contact person in that address book? Does the rule update automatically or do I have to edit it?

If I had only one contact person, would be OK, but for a whole address book....

You only have one address book available at a time. Which one is
determined by your sign-in status. If you're signed in with a Live
ID, then the contacts available to you will be those associated with
that address. If you're not signed in, you will have your Default
contacts - ones which you have added manually or imported while not
signed in.

If you want to organize your contacts so that, for example, you can
mail all your clients, then set up a Category (New > Category) and
add all your clients to it. If you call the category Clients, then
this is all you have to type in the To: box of a new message window.
By clicking on the '+' sign in the box, you reveal all the addresses
so you can delete some if necessary.

If you want a message rule to apply to messages from your clients,
in the New (or Edit) Rule dialogue, click Contacts and then
double-click on the Clients category to add all their addresses to
the rule. This rule will not be reliable if you select Apply Now,
but it will be for new incoming messages.

Please quote at least some of the message you're responding to: it
makes it much easier for people to follow the conversation.
--
Noel

"CiZsolt" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:4768e71951d248f4c1d1d42e9aa2a9b3@xxxxxx-gateway.com...

>
> Yes, it is an alternative, but to write "email or fullname" for
> each of
> them, sounds a bit strange.. And, what happens if I add a new
> contact
> person in that address book? Does the rule update automatically or
> do I
> have to edit it?
>
> If I had only one contact person, would be OK, but for a whole
> address
> book....
>
>
> --
> CiZsolt

Thanks Noel for your reply! Yes, you are right, there are categories, not different address books. I tested on already received e-mails, this is why it did not work. On new e-mails it works perfectly. So consider this topic solved, BUT I still have two missing features:

1. when choosing apply rules now, it should apply on old e-mails too
2. if I add new contacts to a category, the rule must be updated manually

Point 2. is because in the rule it stores each contact address separately, it does not say "Where the from line contains PERSONS FROM CATEGORY", it says: "Where the from line contains email@domain.ext or email2@domain2.ext or .....".

Thanks,
Zsolt.

Originally Posted by Ildhund

You only have one address book available at a time. Which one is
determined by your sign-in status. If you're signed in with a Live
ID, then the contacts available to you will be those associated with
that address. If you're not signed in, you will have your Default
contacts - ones which you have added manually or imported while not
signed in.

If you want to organize your contacts so that, for example, you can
mail all your clients, then set up a Category (New > Category) and
add all your clients to it. If you call the category Clients, then
this is all you have to type in the To: box of a new message window.
By clicking on the '+' sign in the box, you reveal all the addresses
so you can delete some if necessary.

If you want a message rule to apply to messages from your clients,
in the New (or Edit) Rule dialogue, click Contacts and then
double-click on the Clients category to add all their addresses to
the rule. This rule will not be reliable if you select Apply Now,
but it will be for new incoming messages.

Please quote at least some of the message you're responding to: it
makes it much easier for people to follow the conversation.
--
Noel

A message rules list addresses, not addresses from x folder. Any new
contacts have to be manually added.
--
Ron Sommer

"CiZsolt" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:4768e71951d248f4c1d1d42e9aa2a9b3@xxxxxx-gateway.com...

>
> Yes, it is an alternative, but to write "email or fullname" for each of
> them, sounds a bit strange.. And, what happens if I add a new contact
> person in that address book? Does the rule update automatically or do I
> have to edit it?
>
> If I had only one contact person, would be OK, but for a whole address
> book....
>
>
> --
> CiZsolt

Hi, Zsolt.

Since I'm long retired, my needs are much simpler; I no longer have a list
of Clients. (So I probably should stay out of this thread, but...maybe I
can help with one point.)

> 1. when choosing apply rules now, it should apply on old e-mails too

When I create a new Rule and click Apply Now, the WLM default is to apply
the new rule to Storage Folders. This seems to me an unfortunate choice for
default by the WLM Team. Usually I want it to apply to not-yet-sorted
messages still in my Inbox, not to messages that I've already sorted into
their proper destinations. So I Browse the "Apply to Folder" box to select
my Inbox. Since I have multiple Mail Accounts, I have to do this a few
times to be sure that all Inboxes are sorted. But I don't have to do this
except when each Rule is first created; afterwards, the Rule sorts the
incoming messages as they arrive.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

"CiZsolt" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thanks Noel for your reply! Yes, you are right, there are categories,
> not different address books. I tested on already received e-mails, this
> is why it did not work. On new e-mails it works perfectly. So consider
> this topic solved, BUT I still have two missing features:
>
> 1. when choosing apply rules now, it should apply on old e-mails too
> 2. if I add new contacts to a category, the rule must be updated
> manually
>
> Point 2. is because in the rule it stores each contact address
> separately, it does not say "Where the from line contains PERSONS FROM
> CATEGORY", it says: "Where the from line contains email@xxxxxx or
> email2@xxxxxx or .....".
>
> Thanks,
> Zsolt.
>
> Ildhund;1075269 Wrote:

>> You only have one address book available at a time. Which one is
>> determined by your sign-in status. If you're signed in with a Live
>> ID, then the contacts available to you will be those associated with
>> that address. If you're not signed in, you will have your Default
>> contacts - ones which you have added manually or imported while not
>> signed in.
>>
>> If you want to organize your contacts so that, for example, you can
>> mail all your clients, then set up a Category (New > Category) and
>> add all your clients to it. If you call the category Clients, then
>> this is all you have to type in the To: box of a new message window.
>> By clicking on the '+' sign in the box, you reveal all the addresses
>> so you can delete some if necessary.
>>
>> If you want a message rule to apply to messages from your clients,
>> in the New (or Edit) Rule dialogue, click Contacts and then
>> double-click on the Clients category to add all their addresses to
>> the rule. This rule will not be reliable if you select Apply Now,
>> but it will be for new incoming messages.
>>
>> Please quote at least some of the message you're responding to: it
>> makes it much easier for people to follow the conversation.
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>>

>
>
> --
> CiZsolt

1. There is an unfortunate bug which applies here. It was discovered
and reported by Michael Santovec a year ago, but it hasn't been
fixed yet. Here's what he wrote then:
<quote>
BUG: When Manually applying a mail Message Rule criteria Where From
Contains 'X'.

A From header can be of two forms:

1) From: Name <e-mail address>
2) From: e-mail address

When Manually applied, the rule does NOT check the e-mail address in
form #1 within the < >.

It will match the e-mail address in form #2. And it will match if
checking for Name.

The rule works perfectly when automatically applied to incoming POP3
message. It will match on the e-mail address in the <>.

The bug just appears to be with the From header. Testing on the To
and Cc headers when Manually applying rules works fine.
</quote>

2. Yes, you'll have to edit the rule - or just create a new one
using Alt-A, E, if you have a message from the client.
--
Noel

"CiZsolt" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:9e16da3d5d898f56e306d795a37c4f67@xxxxxx-gateway.com...

>
> Thanks Noel for your reply! Yes, you are right, there are
> categories,
> not different address books. I tested on already received e-mails,
> this
> is why it did not work. On new e-mails it works perfectly. So
> consider
> this topic solved, BUT I still have two missing features:
>
> 1. when choosing apply rules now, it should apply on old e-mails
> too
> 2. if I add new contacts to a category, the rule must be updated
> manually
>
> Point 2. is because in the rule it stores each contact address
> separately, it does not say "Where the from line contains PERSONS
> FROM
> CATEGORY", it says: "Where the from line contains email@xxxxxx
> or
> email2@xxxxxx or .....".
>
> Thanks,
> Zsolt.
>
> Ildhund;1075269 Wrote:

>> You only have one address book available at a time. Which one is
>> determined by your sign-in status. If you're signed in with a
>> Live
>> ID, then the contacts available to you will be those associated
>> with
>> that address. If you're not signed in, you will have your Default
>> contacts - ones which you have added manually or imported while
>> not
>> signed in.
>>
>> If you want to organize your contacts so that, for example, you
>> can
>> mail all your clients, then set up a Category (New > Category)
>> and
>> add all your clients to it. If you call the category Clients,
>> then
>> this is all you have to type in the To: box of a new message
>> window.
>> By clicking on the '+' sign in the box, you reveal all the
>> addresses
>> so you can delete some if necessary.
>>
>> If you want a message rule to apply to messages from your
>> clients,
>> in the New (or Edit) Rule dialogue, click Contacts and then
>> double-click on the Clients category to add all their addresses
>> to
>> the rule. This rule will not be reliable if you select Apply Now,
>> but it will be for new incoming messages.
>>
>> Please quote at least some of the message you're responding to:
>> it
>> makes it much easier for people to follow the conversation.
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>>

>
>
> --
> CiZsolt