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Old 06-29-2009   #1 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle


 
 

Re: Message List size? Any way of enlarging the text size?



"Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eC3R1lH#JHA.4376@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I can control my Message Body text size but it seems impossible to control
> the Message List text size. I wonder why Microsoft would assume that our
> eyes are lousy for the Message Body but they suddenly become perfect when we
> glance up at the Message List. Surely there is a way? I already have Font
> Size at Extra Large in Control Panel, Display, Appearance as well as at 120%
> under Display, Settings, Advanced, DPI setting.

Try using High Contrast? E.g. toggle that feature by LeftAlt+LeftShift+PrintScrn.
Note that if you have never used it before you *will* want to customize its settings. <eg>


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
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Old 06-29-2009   #2 (permalink)
Richard Z


 
 

Message List size? Any way of enlarging the text size?

I can control my Message Body text size but it seems impossible to control
the Message List text size. I wonder why Microsoft would assume that our
eyes are lousy for the Message Body but they suddenly become perfect when we
glance up at the Message List. Surely there is a way? I already have Font
Size at Extra Large in Control Panel, Display, Appearance as well as at 120%
under Display, Settings, Advanced, DPI setting.

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Old 06-29-2009   #3 (permalink)
R. C. White


 
 

Re: Message List size? Any way of enlarging the text size?

Hi, Richard.

Outlook Express has always been a part of Internet Explorer. So we've
always had to use IE's Display Properties and other tools to adjust some
features of OE, such as the GUI and print options. Windows Mail "inherited"
this arrangement. And, despite many other changes, Windows Live Mail still
uses many of the settings from IE. And some settings are "global" and
depend on settings in the Windows Control Panel.

You didn't say if you are running WinXP or Vista or some other Windows. I'm
running Win7 now, so you may not see what I see, but the general idea is the
same. I can right-click on my Desktop, choose Personalize, and make many
changes to the Display from there. Trouble is, there is not always a clear
link between what I want to change and the choices that I see in the Display
screens. This has always been a trial-and-error exercise for me. :>{

Maybe someone here knows specifically which tweak will get the result you
want.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

"Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eC3R1lH#JHA.4376@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I can control my Message Body text size but it seems impossible to control
> the Message List text size. I wonder why Microsoft would assume that our
> eyes are lousy for the Message Body but they suddenly become perfect when
> we glance up at the Message List. Surely there is a way? I already have
> Font Size at Extra Large in Control Panel, Display, Appearance as well as
> at 120% under Display, Settings, Advanced, DPI setting.
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Old 06-29-2009   #4 (permalink)
R. C. White


 
 

Re: Message List text size - any way to enlarge or make less faint?

Hi, Richard.

Yes, this did get posted twice. See the responses to the other one.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

"Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e163D9H#JHA.1380@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
> Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either larger
> or with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint.
> I work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst
> than most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can
> adjust the Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel
> (as long as the focus is on the message of course or the message is
> displayed in its own window). But it sure would be great to be able to
> adjust the readability of the Message List.
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Old 06-29-2009   #5 (permalink)
Peter.R


 
 

Re: Message List text size - any way to enlarge or make less faint?

Which OS?

The font colour of the Message List (in One-line view) can be changed for Read messages.

In Vista, it is actually the colour of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that corresponds to the colour of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line view).

--
Cheers,
Peter.R
(Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 with IE7 & Windows Live Mail 2009 14.0.8064.0206)
"There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare

"Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e163D9H#JHA.1380@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
> Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either larger or
> with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint. I
> work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst than
> most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can adjust the
> Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel (as long as the
> focus is on the message of course or the message is displayed in its own
> window). But it sure would be great to be able to adjust the readability of
> the Message List.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-29-2009   #6 (permalink)
Richard Z


 
 

Re: Message List size? Any way of enlarging the text size?

>> I can control my Message Body text size but it seems impossible to
Quote:
Quote:

>> control
>> the Message List text size. I wonder why Microsoft would assume that our
>> eyes are lousy for the Message Body but they suddenly become perfect when
>> we
>> glance up at the Message List. Surely there is a way? I already have
>> Font
>> Size at Extra Large in Control Panel, Display, Appearance as well as at
>> 120%
>> under Display, Settings, Advanced, DPI setting.
>
> Try using High Contrast? E.g. toggle that feature by
> LeftAlt+LeftShift+PrintScrn.
> Note that if you have never used it before you *will* want to customize
> its settings. <eg>
Text size is the same even when I select Extra Large. Weird how that
Message List resists all efforts to change it. But having a black
background is wonderful. I really need to experiment with backgrounds more.
When you have sharp levels of contrast you don't need such a large font.
Plus the glare is substantially reduced. Much easier on the eyes. If only
we could program each window to open up in the correct background/text size.
Thanks for a great tip.

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Old 06-29-2009   #7 (permalink)
Richard Z


 
 

Re: Message List size? Any way of enlarging the text size?

> "Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message
Quote:

> news:eC3R1lH#JHA.4376@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I can control my Message Body text size but it seems impossible to
>> control
>> the Message List text size. I wonder why Microsoft would assume that our
>> eyes are lousy for the Message Body but they suddenly become perfect when
>> we
>> glance up at the Message List. Surely there is a way? I already have
>> Font
>> Size at Extra Large in Control Panel, Display, Appearance as well as at
>> 120%
>> under Display, Settings, Advanced, DPI setting.
>
> Try using High Contrast? E.g. toggle that feature by
> LeftAlt+LeftShift+PrintScrn.
> Note that if you have never used it before you *will* want to customize
> its settings. <eg>
Should it take about 15-20 seconds to activate? I'm using that shortcut you
mentioned. A "Please Wait" message box appears for quite a while and the
screen gradually fades to gray.

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Old 06-29-2009   #8 (permalink)
Richard Z


 
 

Re: Message List text size - any way to enlarge or make less faint?

>> I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
Quote:
Quote:

>> Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either larger
>> or
>> with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint. I
>> work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst
>> than
>> most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can adjust
>> the
>> Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel (as long as
>> the
>> focus is on the message of course or the message is displayed in its own
>> window). But it sure would be great to be able to adjust the readability
>> of
>> the Message List.
Quote:

> Which OS?
XP Pro SP3
Quote:

> The font colour of the Message List (in One-line view) can be changed for
> Read messages.
I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or 2
line view options. arghhhh
Quote:

> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line view).
> (Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 with IE7 & Windows Live Mail 2009
> 14.0.8064.0206)
Must be different for XP.

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Old 06-29-2009   #9 (permalink)
R. C. White


 
 

Re: Message List text size - any way to enlarge or make less faint?

Hi, Richard.

Peter and I are talking about the same thing, but I haven't run WinXP in
about 3 years so I've forgotten the details of how to get to the Display
Properties in XP. Vista is different - and Win7 is more different.
Quote:

> I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or 2
> line view options. arghhhh
No, this 1-line or 2-line setting is in WLM. (View | Layout | Message List)
But the "Disabled Item" font setting that Peter is talking about is NOT in
WLM at all! It is in WINDOWS Display Properties. You know, where you set
the colors of the borders around the window that has focus.

That's why I said I have to use trial and error to find out which item in
Windows' Display Properties corresponds with which display element in WLM.
Peter has identified at least this one item:
Quote:
Quote:

>> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
>> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
>> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line view).
In other words, to change the color of "Read" messages INSIDE WLM, you must
adjust something OUTSIDE WLM - in Windows Display Properties.

That's what makes this so hard to explain - and to understand - and to do.
WLM responds to outside forces for these settings.

But it's not new. We always had to do it this way with OE, too. But we
forget.
Quote:

> Must be different for XP.
Yep. Different. But similar. Only the details have changed. The general
pattern is the same.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

"Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#AakyWO#JHA.4376@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>> I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
>>> Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either
>>> larger or
>>> with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint. I
>>> work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst
>>> than
>>> most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can adjust
>>> the
>>> Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel (as long as
>>> the
>>> focus is on the message of course or the message is displayed in its own
>>> window). But it sure would be great to be able to adjust the
>>> readability of
>>> the Message List.
>
Quote:

>> Which OS?
>
> XP Pro SP3
>
Quote:

>> The font colour of the Message List (in One-line view) can be changed for
>> Read messages.
>
> I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or 2
> line view options. arghhhh
>
Quote:

>> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
>> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
>> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line view).
>> (Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 with IE7 & Windows Live Mail 2009
>> 14.0.8064.0206)
>
> Must be different for XP.
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Old 06-29-2009   #10 (permalink)
Richard Z


 
 

Re: Message List text size - any way to enlarge or make less faint?

> Peter and I are talking about the same thing, but I haven't run WinXP in
Quote:

> about 3 years so I've forgotten the details of how to get to the Display
> Properties in XP. Vista is different - and Win7 is more different.
>
Quote:

>> I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or
>> 2 line view options. arghhhh
>
> No, this 1-line or 2-line setting is in WLM. (View | Layout | Message
> List)
Thank you. Layout....how obvious could it be?
Quote:

> But the "Disabled Item" font setting that Peter is talking about is NOT in
> WLM at all! It is in WINDOWS Display Properties. You know, where you set
> the colors of the borders around the window that has focus.
Right. Display, Appearance, Advanced, Item.
Nothing there for Disabled Items or anything similar. These are the
possibilities in that they have font adjustment.
Active Title Bar
Icon
Inactive Title Bar
Menu
Message Box
Palette Title
Selected Items
Tooltip

If anyone has any clue as to which one might control the Message List font
(if any) please speak up!

Now wouldn't it be pleasant if everyone played nice and agreed on the
standard text size adjustment shortcut most commonly used:
Control + Mousewheel.
So wherever you have the focus, it works there. Life could be so easy if
everyone just got along.
Quote:

> That's why I said I have to use trial and error to find out which item in
> Windows' Display Properties corresponds with which display element in WLM.
> Peter has identified at least this one item:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
>>> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
>>> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line
>>> view).
>
> In other words, to change the color of "Read" messages INSIDE WLM, you
> must adjust something OUTSIDE WLM - in Windows Display Properties.
>
> That's what makes this so hard to explain - and to understand - and to do.
> WLM responds to outside forces for these settings.
>
> But it's not new. We always had to do it this way with OE, too. But we
> forget.
>
Quote:

>> Must be different for XP.
>
> Yep. Different. But similar. Only the details have changed. The
> general pattern is the same.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@xxxxxx
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
>
> "Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#AakyWO#JHA.4376@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>>>> I though I posted this before but maybe not. Apologies if I did.
>>>> Is there any way of getting WLM to display the Message List either
>>>> larger or
>>>> with a darker font? When messages have been read its insanely faint.
>>>> I
>>>> work with my brightness often turned way down so perhaps mine is worst
>>>> than
>>>> most. Still this seems to be a very much requested issue. I can
>>>> adjust the
>>>> Message body fine by zooming with Control and the mousewheel (as long
>>>> as the
>>>> focus is on the message of course or the message is displayed in its
>>>> own
>>>> window). But it sure would be great to be able to adjust the
>>>> readability of
>>>> the Message List.
>>
Quote:

>>> Which OS?
>>
>> XP Pro SP3
>>
Quote:

>>> The font colour of the Message List (in One-line view) can be changed
>>> for Read messages.
>>
>> I can't remember how to get to that....I remember seeing Auto, 1 line or
>> 2 line view options. arghhhh
>>
Quote:

>>> In Vista, it is actually the color of the Windows 'Disabled Item' Font
>>> ('Advanced Appearance' options in Windows 'Display Properties') that
>>> corresponds to the color of 'Read' messages in WLMail (in One-line
>>> view).
>>> (Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 with IE7 & Windows Live Mail 2009
>>> 14.0.8064.0206)
>>
>> Must be different for XP.
>
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