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Old 07-02-2009   #1 (permalink)
R. C. White


 
 

Re: Difference between Deleted Items and Trash?

Hi, Richard.

Trash is mail that the server thinks you will want to Delete, but you still
have an opportunity to skim through it to be sure there are no false
positives. When you are sure, THEN you delete it. If the server's filter
didn't catch all the trash, you can click the Junk button yourself to move
it into that folder. Of course, you also can simply Delete it directly from
the Inbox without going through the trash or junk folder.

In WLMail, I like the little "x" that appears when I highlight the Junk
email folder. Clicking that "x" empties that folder. ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

"Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#89NPM4#JHA.3544@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Is there a difference? I noticed that several webmail providers have both
> Deleted Items and Trash. If you don't want it you dispose of it. What
> could be the difference between the two?

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Old 07-03-2009   #2 (permalink)
Richard Z


 
 

Difference between Deleted Items and Trash?

Is there a difference? I noticed that several webmail providers have both
Deleted Items and Trash. If you don't want it you dispose of it. What
could be the difference between the two?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-03-2009   #3 (permalink)
Richard Z


 
 

Re: Difference between Deleted Items and Trash?

>> Is there a difference? I noticed that several webmail providers have both Deleted Items and
Quote:
Quote:

>> Trash. If you don't want it you dispose of it. What could be the difference between the two?
Quote:

> Trash is mail that the server thinks you will want to Delete, but you still have an opportunity to
> skim through it to be sure there are no false positives. When you are sure, THEN you delete it.
> If the server's filter didn't catch all the trash, you can click the Junk button yourself to move
> it into that folder. Of course, you also can simply Delete it directly from the Inbox without
> going through the trash or junk folder. In WLMail, I like the little "x" that appears when I
> highlight the Junk email folder. Clicking that "x" empties that folder. ;<)
Isn't there a kb shortcut for emptying a folder? If there isn't one, there should be!
I've found that junk mail filters never work properly and always catch legitimate mail which means
you still have to wade through all of it like before. I guess most people check their junk mail box
less often. But if there is a junk mail filter it should go into the junk mail folder. Doesn't
have anything to do with Trash or Deleted items. Inbox, Drafts, Sent, Junk, Trash and any other
folders you create. Keep life simple.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-03-2009   #4 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: Difference between Deleted Items and Trash?

No there is not...

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...winston
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"Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#LOSWS6#JHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Isn't there a kb shortcut for emptying a folder?
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Old 07-03-2009   #5 (permalink)
R. C. White


 
 

Re: Difference between Deleted Items and Trash?

Hi, Richard.

Whether done by the mail server, or by the client on your desktop, or by you
manually by eyeballing each item...

Putting junk mail into the junk folder (by whatever name) is EASY! One
click will do it and that one click can be automated by Rules. Emptying
that folder is just as easy.

The hard part is deciding - FOR SURE - whether a particular email is junk or
not.
Quote:

> But if there is a junk mail filter it should go into the junk mail folder.
Spammers make their living by dreaming up new ways to make junk look legit -
and they're very good at it, and getting better. Junk mail filters are
getting better, too, but it's like the old Spy/Counterspy cartoons: Every
time we built a smarter mousetrap, the mouse gets smarter. And some
legitimate users are clueless or careless enough to send legitimate mail
that looks just like junk mail. (Too often, I find legitimate mail from
Microsoft in my Junk folder!)

A few years ago, I was getting daily reports from my ISP showing hundreds of
trapped messages a day! I always reviewed the list - quickly - and often
found one or more legitimate messages there. Nowadays, my junk folder
averages fewer than a half-dozen a day, so it's no problem to visually scan
them before clicking that little "x". (And often the "junk" actually is
semi-legitimate newsletters and offers from companies that I opted in for,
but no longer want. I hate to classify them as "junk", so I just delete
them instead. The message is gone, but the sender is not in my "blocked"
list - just in case a true bargain shows up some day. It's like all those
flyers from JC Penney, Best Buy and many others that are in my newspaper,
especially on Sunday. I look at a few, but not most of them. They are
legitimate marketing, not junk - but they still are a chore to wade through
and throw into the recycle bin. At least, with junk emails, I don't have to
pay the garbage man to haul them away.)

Is "junk" the same as "trash"? I don't know. I guess this is an "eether"
or "eyether" kind of question. Or like "email" versus "e-mail".

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

"Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#LOSWS6#JHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>> Is there a difference? I noticed that several webmail providers have
>>> both Deleted Items and Trash. If you don't want it you dispose of it.
>>> What could be the difference between the two?
>
Quote:

>> Trash is mail that the server thinks you will want to Delete, but you
>> still have an opportunity to skim through it to be sure there are no
>> false positives. When you are sure, THEN you delete it. If the server's
>> filter didn't catch all the trash, you can click the Junk button yourself
>> to move it into that folder. Of course, you also can simply Delete it
>> directly from the Inbox without going through the trash or junk folder.
>> In WLMail, I like the little "x" that appears when I highlight the Junk
>> email folder. Clicking that "x" empties that folder. ;<)
>
> Isn't there a kb shortcut for emptying a folder? If there isn't one,
> there should be!
> I've found that junk mail filters never work properly and always catch
> legitimate mail which means you still have to wade through all of it like
> before. I guess most people check their junk mail box less often. But if
> there is a junk mail filter it should go into the junk mail folder.
> Doesn't have anything to do with Trash or Deleted items. Inbox, Drafts,
> Sent, Junk, Trash and any other folders you create. Keep life simple.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-03-2009   #6 (permalink)
Richard Z


 
 

Re: Difference between Deleted Items and Trash?

Well said.

"R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#Wyryt##JHA.4984@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi, Richard.
>
> Whether done by the mail server, or by the client on your desktop, or by you
> manually by eyeballing each item...
>
> Putting junk mail into the junk folder (by whatever name) is EASY! One
> click will do it and that one click can be automated by Rules. Emptying
> that folder is just as easy.
>
> The hard part is deciding - FOR SURE - whether a particular email is junk or
> not.
>
Quote:

>> But if there is a junk mail filter it should go into the junk mail folder.
>
> Spammers make their living by dreaming up new ways to make junk look legit -
> and they're very good at it, and getting better. Junk mail filters are
> getting better, too, but it's like the old Spy/Counterspy cartoons: Every
> time we built a smarter mousetrap, the mouse gets smarter. And some
> legitimate users are clueless or careless enough to send legitimate mail
> that looks just like junk mail. (Too often, I find legitimate mail from
> Microsoft in my Junk folder!)
>
> A few years ago, I was getting daily reports from my ISP showing hundreds of
> trapped messages a day! I always reviewed the list - quickly - and often
> found one or more legitimate messages there. Nowadays, my junk folder
> averages fewer than a half-dozen a day, so it's no problem to visually scan
> them before clicking that little "x". (And often the "junk" actually is
> semi-legitimate newsletters and offers from companies that I opted in for,
> but no longer want. I hate to classify them as "junk", so I just delete
> them instead. The message is gone, but the sender is not in my "blocked"
> list - just in case a true bargain shows up some day. It's like all those
> flyers from JC Penney, Best Buy and many others that are in my newspaper,
> especially on Sunday. I look at a few, but not most of them. They are
> legitimate marketing, not junk - but they still are a chore to wade through
> and throw into the recycle bin. At least, with junk emails, I don't have to
> pay the garbage man to haul them away.)
>
> Is "junk" the same as "trash"? I don't know. I guess this is an "eether"
> or "eyether" kind of question. Or like "email" versus "e-mail".
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@xxxxxx
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
>
> "Richard Z" <reply.to.group@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#LOSWS6#JHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>>>> Is there a difference? I noticed that several webmail providers have
>>>> both Deleted Items and Trash. If you don't want it you dispose of it.
>>>> What could be the difference between the two?
>>
Quote:

>>> Trash is mail that the server thinks you will want to Delete, but you
>>> still have an opportunity to skim through it to be sure there are no
>>> false positives. When you are sure, THEN you delete it. If the server's
>>> filter didn't catch all the trash, you can click the Junk button yourself
>>> to move it into that folder. Of course, you also can simply Delete it
>>> directly from the Inbox without going through the trash or junk folder.
>>> In WLMail, I like the little "x" that appears when I highlight the Junk
>>> email folder. Clicking that "x" empties that folder. ;<)
>>
>> Isn't there a kb shortcut for emptying a folder? If there isn't one,
>> there should be!
>> I've found that junk mail filters never work properly and always catch
>> legitimate mail which means you still have to wade through all of it like
>> before. I guess most people check their junk mail box less often. But if
>> there is a junk mail filter it should go into the junk mail folder.
>> Doesn't have anything to do with Trash or Deleted items. Inbox, Drafts,
>> Sent, Junk, Trash and any other folders you create. Keep life simple.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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