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Old 06-27-2009   #1 (permalink)
Pete Zahut


 
 

What is Windows Live Mail - MSN? Hotmail?

Apologies if this is totally the wrong group but I've had this posted in the
Outlook ng for about a week without a single reply so I'm hoping someone
here can help. I have to say that I don't use Windows Live Mail, MSN,
Hotmail or Outlook so I'm rather confused about it all. Anyway, here's a
"copy and paste" of the thread that I've had in the
microsoft.public.outlook.general newsgroup:

******************************************

Asking for a friend who isn't exactly very technically minded so I apologise
in advance for the lack of in-depth detail.

Anyway, he has an MSN email address (along the lines of xxx.yyy@xxxxxx) and
has always used a webmail interface to send/receive email instead of an
email client like Outlook or Outlook Express. He now has a new mobile phone
(that's "cell phone" for our US cousins )) that can synchronize
contacts/calendar functions between itself and Outlook, so he wants to start
using Outlook 2003 as his email client with his xxx.yyy@xxxxxx account.

So, first question is, can Outlook 2003 be used with an @msn.com email
account? I've never used either of them so I don't know, but I would imagine
the answer would be yes, and if so, that leads to the second question of
what are the POP3 and SMTP server settings? Where would we even look to find
out such info?

And finally, I took a complete guess that the server info would be
pop.msn.com and smtp.msn.com so, just as an experiment, tried to talk him
through setting up a new email account in Outlook. Although I've never used
it I thought that the navigation may be similar enough to Outlook Express,
ie, Tools > Accounts > Mail > Add etc., etc., that we could work our way
round. He apparently came to a point where he had a button "Add new email
account" or something similar (again, I apologise for the lack of detail but
he's 30 miles away from me) that was greyed out.

Any ideas as to why he couldn't create a new account?

Thanks in advance folks,

Pete
**************************************



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-27-2009   #2 (permalink)
Pete Zahut


 
 

Re: What is Windows Live Mail - MSN? Hotmail?

Pete Zahut wrote:
Quote:

> Apologies if this is totally the wrong group but I've had this posted
> in the Outlook ng for about a week without a single reply so I'm
> hoping someone here can help. I have to say that I don't use Windows
> Live Mail, MSN, Hotmail or Outlook so I'm rather confused about it
> all. Anyway, here's a "copy and paste" of the thread that I've had in
> the microsoft.public.outlook.general newsgroup:
>
> ******************************************
>
> Asking for a friend who isn't exactly very technically minded so I
> apologise in advance for the lack of in-depth detail.
>
> Anyway, he has an MSN email address (along the lines of
> xxx.yyy@xxxxxx) and has always used a webmail interface to
> send/receive email instead of an email client like Outlook or Outlook
> Express. He now has a new mobile phone (that's "cell phone" for our
> US cousins )) that can synchronize contacts/calendar functions
> between itself and Outlook, so he wants to start using Outlook 2003
> as his email client with his xxx.yyy@xxxxxx account.
> So, first question is, can Outlook 2003 be used with an @msn.com email
> account? I've never used either of them so I don't know, but I would
> imagine the answer would be yes, and if so, that leads to the second
> question of what are the POP3 and SMTP server settings? Where would
> we even look to find out such info?
>
> And finally, I took a complete guess that the server info would be
> pop.msn.com and smtp.msn.com so, just as an experiment, tried to talk
> him through setting up a new email account in Outlook. Although I've
> never used it I thought that the navigation may be similar enough to
> Outlook Express, ie, Tools > Accounts > Mail > Add etc., etc., that
> we could work our way round. He apparently came to a point where he
> had a button "Add new email account" or something similar (again, I
> apologise for the lack of detail but he's 30 miles away from me) that
> was greyed out.
> Any ideas as to why he couldn't create a new account?
>
> Thanks in advance folks,
>
> Pete
> **************************************
Sorry, should have said (in case it makes a difference) that this is with
WinXP Media Centre Edition and Outlook 2003.

Pete


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-10-2009   #3 (permalink)
Ron Sommer


 
 

Re: What is Windows Live Mail - MSN? Hotmail?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/287604
All msn account should now have pop access.
You may have to login to MSN and setup pop access.
--
Ron Sommer

"Pete Zahut" <dont@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:LN-dnVWLS9g1iNvXnZ2dnUVZ8omdnZ2d@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Pete Zahut wrote:
Quote:

>> Apologies if this is totally the wrong group but I've had this posted
>> in the Outlook ng for about a week without a single reply so I'm
>> hoping someone here can help. I have to say that I don't use Windows
>> Live Mail, MSN, Hotmail or Outlook so I'm rather confused about it
>> all. Anyway, here's a "copy and paste" of the thread that I've had in
>> the microsoft.public.outlook.general newsgroup:
>>
>> ******************************************
>>
>> Asking for a friend who isn't exactly very technically minded so I
>> apologise in advance for the lack of in-depth detail.
>>
>> Anyway, he has an MSN email address (along the lines of
>> xxx.yyy@xxxxxx) and has always used a webmail interface to
>> send/receive email instead of an email client like Outlook or Outlook
>> Express. He now has a new mobile phone (that's "cell phone" for our
>> US cousins )) that can synchronize contacts/calendar functions
>> between itself and Outlook, so he wants to start using Outlook 2003
>> as his email client with his xxx.yyy@xxxxxx account.
>> So, first question is, can Outlook 2003 be used with an @msn.com email
>> account? I've never used either of them so I don't know, but I would
>> imagine the answer would be yes, and if so, that leads to the second
>> question of what are the POP3 and SMTP server settings? Where would
>> we even look to find out such info?
>>
>> And finally, I took a complete guess that the server info would be
>> pop.msn.com and smtp.msn.com so, just as an experiment, tried to talk
>> him through setting up a new email account in Outlook. Although I've
>> never used it I thought that the navigation may be similar enough to
>> Outlook Express, ie, Tools > Accounts > Mail > Add etc., etc., that
>> we could work our way round. He apparently came to a point where he
>> had a button "Add new email account" or something similar (again, I
>> apologise for the lack of detail but he's 30 miles away from me) that
>> was greyed out.
>> Any ideas as to why he couldn't create a new account?
>>
>> Thanks in advance folks,
>>
>> Pete
>> **************************************
>
> Sorry, should have said (in case it makes a difference) that this is with
> WinXP Media Centre Edition and Outlook 2003.
>
> Pete
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-10-2009   #4 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: What is Windows Live Mail - MSN? Hotmail?

Hello Pete,
Outlook 2003 and 2007 can be used with an msn.com account

Two options are available(pop3 and http using DeltaSync) for OL03/07

Hotmail and MSN Accounts POP3/SMTP Access
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!422.entry
or
DeltaSync/Http protocol
- DeltaSync replaces the older WebDAV protocol effective Sept 1.
- In Outlook 2003 and 2007 to use the DeltaSync http protocol requires installing the Outlook Connector(an add-in) that will
mirror the web based folders in a separate account structure in Outlook and independent from Outlooks default folders(Inbox, Sent,
Outbox etc). Installation of the Outlook Connector will make the MSn web accounts Contacts and Calendar available, but separate and
independent from Outlooks main Contacts and Calendar).

Comments:
Normally when a phone syncs with Outlook(not all phones do) it **only** syncs with the main Outlook Contacts and Calendar. It does
not sync the web based Msn Calendar(now Live Calendar) or Contacts(now Live Contacts) nor does it sync with the Live Contacts and
Calendar available through use of the Outlook Connector.

If one chooses pop3, the only way to move the contacts from an Msn.com account to the main Outlook contacts is to export the
contacts using the web interface(contacts.live.com, manage/export) to a *.csv file and then import those contacts into Outlooks
main contacts(File/Import/Import from a file choosing the Csv-Comma Separated Values[Windows] option). Once imported, the phone
would then have access after a sync with the contacts imported into Outlooks main Contacts.


--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Pete Zahut" <dont@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:vLidne5axfC8iNvXnZ2dnUVZ8g-dnZ2d@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> Anyway, he has an MSN email address (along the lines of xxx.yyy@xxxxxx) and
> has always used a webmail interface to send/receive email instead of an
> email client like Outlook or Outlook Express. He now has a new mobile phone
> (that's "cell phone" for our US cousins )) that can synchronize
> contacts/calendar functions between itself and Outlook, so he wants to start
> using Outlook 2003 as his email client with his xxx.yyy@xxxxxx account.
>
> So, first question is, can Outlook 2003 be used with an @msn.com email
> account? I've never used either of them so I don't know, but I would imagine
> the answer would be yes, and if so, that leads to the second question of
> what are the POP3 and SMTP server settings? Where would we even look to find
> out such info?
>
> And finally, I took a complete guess that the server info would be
> pop.msn.com and smtp.msn.com so, just as an experiment, tried to talk him
> through setting up a new email account in Outlook. Although I've never used
> it I thought that the navigation may be similar enough to Outlook Express,
> ie, Tools > Accounts > Mail > Add etc., etc., that we could work our way
> round. He apparently came to a point where he had a button "Add new email
> account" or something similar (again, I apologise for the lack of detail but
> he's 30 miles away from me) that was greyed out.
>
> Any ideas as to why he couldn't create a new account?
>
> Thanks in advance folks,
>
> Pete
> **************************************
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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