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Old 07-15-2009   #1 (permalink)
RWilson


 
 

Attachment sign is there but no attachment

Hi, some emails which I receive, I can see the attachment sign (paper clip)
but there is actually no option to open or save the attachment. Then there
are some emails which do have attachments but even paper clip sign doesn't
come. Both the above problems happen to only a fraction of emails (less than
5%).

For example, today I received a mail which does have an attachment (as
confirmed by other recepients), but WLM doesn't show attachment sign. When I
looked at properties and message source, it clearly shows from the size and
tags that the attachment is there. There are some tags seems to be introduced
by sender's firewall. Following tags are there:

---------------------------
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-CA
X-MS-Has-Attach: yes
...............
................

X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1247433765
X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at .......
X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: -1001.00
X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=-1001.00 using global scores of
TAG_LEVEL=3.5 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0
........................
........................

Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat"
----------------------------

Looking forward for some advice to resolve this.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-15-2009   #2 (permalink)
GbH


 
 

Re: Attachment sign is there but no attachment


"RWilson" <RWilson@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:625EBBD2-8124-47BB-AFA8-763E85F80EA2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi, some emails which I receive, I can see the attachment sign (paper
> clip)
> but there is actually no option to open or save the attachment. Then
> there
> are some emails which do have attachments but even paper clip sign
> doesn't
> come. Both the above problems happen to only a fraction of emails
> (less than
> 5%).
>
> For example, today I received a mail which does have an attachment (as
> confirmed by other recepients), but WLM doesn't show attachment sign.
> When I
> looked at properties and message source, it clearly shows from the
> size and
> tags that the attachment is there. There are some tags seems to be
> introduced
> by sender's firewall. Following tags are there:
>
> ---------------------------
> Accept-Language: en-US
> Content-Language: en-CA
> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes
> ..............
> ...............
>
> X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1247433765
> X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at .......
> X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: -1001.00
> X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=-1001.00 using global scores of
> TAG_LEVEL=3.5 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0
> .......................
> .......................
>
> Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat"
> ----------------------------
>
> Looking forward for some advice to resolve this.
This is probably attached to an email sent by Outlook.
Outlook does not handle attachments the same way as other email clients,
it does it how it wants to. Other 'real' email clients (even Outlook
Express) cannot recognise them. The solution is to ensure the sender
does NOT use RTF or HTML for composing/sending email. If he used 'PLAIN
TEXT' the problem will go away.

--
Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could
remember the darn question


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-15-2009   #3 (permalink)
Peter Foldes


 
 

Re: Attachment sign is there but no attachment

Ron

In OE as an example I get that when someone posts in HTML and I am viewing in Plain
Text.Like you I see this only about the same percentage as you. Nothing wrong if
that is the case there with you which most probably is.

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"RWilson" <RWilson@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:625EBBD2-8124-47BB-AFA8-763E85F80EA2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi, some emails which I receive, I can see the attachment sign (paper clip)
> but there is actually no option to open or save the attachment. Then there
> are some emails which do have attachments but even paper clip sign doesn't
> come. Both the above problems happen to only a fraction of emails (less than
> 5%).
>
> For example, today I received a mail which does have an attachment (as
> confirmed by other recepients), but WLM doesn't show attachment sign. When I
> looked at properties and message source, it clearly shows from the size and
> tags that the attachment is there. There are some tags seems to be introduced
> by sender's firewall. Following tags are there:
>
> ---------------------------
> Accept-Language: en-US
> Content-Language: en-CA
> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes
> ..............
> ...............
>
> X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1247433765
> X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at .......
> X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: -1001.00
> X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=-1001.00 using global scores of
> TAG_LEVEL=3.5 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0
> .......................
> .......................
>
> Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat"
> ----------------------------
>
> Looking forward for some advice to resolve this.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-15-2009   #4 (permalink)
t-4-2


 
 

Re: Attachment sign is there but no attachment

One cannot restrict what format other people use. That is not possible nor
it is reasonable.
Try this :
Tools > Options >Read. Un-check " read all messages in plain text " > OK
t-4-2


"RWilson" <RWilson@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:625EBBD2-8124-47BB-AFA8-763E85F80EA2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi, some emails which I receive, I can see the attachment sign (paper
> clip)
> but there is actually no option to open or save the attachment. Then there
> are some emails which do have attachments but even paper clip sign doesn't
> come. Both the above problems happen to only a fraction of emails (less
> than
> 5%).
>
> For example, today I received a mail which does have an attachment (as
> confirmed by other recepients), but WLM doesn't show attachment sign. When
> I
> looked at properties and message source, it clearly shows from the size
> and
> tags that the attachment is there. There are some tags seems to be
> introduced
> by sender's firewall. Following tags are there:
>
> ---------------------------
> Accept-Language: en-US
> Content-Language: en-CA
> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes
> ..............
> ...............
>
> X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1247433765
> X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: by Barracuda Spam Firewall at .......
> X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: -1001.00
> X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=-1001.00 using global scores of
> TAG_LEVEL=3.5 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0
> .......................
> .......................
>
> Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat"
> ----------------------------
>
> Looking forward for some advice to resolve this.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-15-2009   #5 (permalink)
GbH


 
 

Re: Attachment sign is there but no attachment


"t-4-2" <dhuang1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O8AoM9WBKHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:

> One cannot restrict what format other people use. That is not possible
> nor it is reasonable.
> Try this :
> Tools > Options >Read. Un-check " read all messages in plain text " >
> OK
> t-4-2
Agree with you entirely, however one can and should reasonably expect
the format to conform with agreed international specifications. Outlook
in non plain text mode does not. Mail clients that do conform with those
standards are unable to read it. It is not the mail reader's failure,
nor the mail sender, it is the purveyor of nonconforming software. Who
for too long has abused its monopolistic position, stuck 2 fingers up
and said this is how we do it, lump it or leave it.

--
Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could
remember the darn question


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-15-2009   #6 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle


 
 

Re: Attachment sign is there but no attachment


"RWilson" <RWilson@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:625EBBD2-8124-47BB-AFA8-763E85F80EA2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi, some emails which I receive, I can see the attachment sign (paper clip)
> but there is actually no option to open or save the attachment. Then there
> are some emails which do have attachments but even paper clip sign doesn't
> come. Both the above problems happen to only a fraction of emails (less than
> 5%).
>
> For example, today I received a mail which does have an attachment (as
> confirmed by other recepients), but WLM doesn't show attachment sign. When I
> looked at properties and message source, it clearly shows from the size and
> tags that the attachment is there. There are some tags seems to be introduced
> by sender's firewall. Following tags are there:
....
Quote:

> Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat"
> ----------------------------
>
> Looking forward for some advice to resolve this.

Do a search for posts by Michael Santovec for fentun ; )

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...ntovec++fentun


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