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Old 07-20-2009   #1 (permalink)
Furry Atlas


 
 

3 different issues - Quick Views, Syncing and RSS Reading

Hi

;_; I hate WLM so. I don't know why I have a naive idea MS will listen to
people who use it and fix the bloody thing.


1. My Quick Views for Mail are not being updated (unread email, all junk
e-mail, unread feeds etc etc).

Using Google I see that the advice is to:
Quote:

> Rebuild your Quick views by deleting the registry Value
> "SearchFolderVersion" under the registry key
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail. This will cause
> WLMail to rebuild its Quick view data store when it is next started.
I've done this. (ie. shut down WLM, deleted value, restarted WLM).
Now my quick views is totally empty - but I got email all throughout my
accounts!


2. "Syncing" messages does not bring up dialog task box showing progress.

In order to see the dialog task and error box of WLM checking each email
account I needed to select SYNC > EVERYTHING twice (i don't know why - it
just had to be twice).
Now I have no dialog no matter what, except only if there is an error at the
end.
Any advice?


3. RSS is really only very simple indeed.

Is there any chance that MS will incorporate plugins for the RSS readers so
that things like flash movies and other items will display? (or at least a
noticeable place holder?)
Or is the intention to use Word as the HTML engine (like hurr durr Outlook
2010) and force users to use web based readers to read web based
syndications?


Thanks :-)




My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-20-2009   #2 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: 3 different issues - Quick Views, Syncing and RSS Reading

1. That is the only known fix and it functions on the counter. Try toggling QV on an off(View/Layout/Folder Pane) or toggling Show
all messages off an on.

2. That's how it works..no other options at this time....press Sync Twice or F5 twice or click on the icon in the lower right of
the status bar before the process completes.

3. View feeds in IE if you need more features...wysiwyg

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Furry Atlas" <furtrash@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ewo0UERCKHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi
>
> ;_; I hate WLM so. I don't know why I have a naive idea MS will listen to people who use it and fix the bloody thing.
>
>
> 1. My Quick Views for Mail are not being updated (unread email, all junk e-mail, unread feeds etc etc).
>
> Using Google I see that the advice is to:
Quote:

>> Rebuild your Quick views by deleting the registry Value
>> "SearchFolderVersion" under the registry key
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail. This will cause
>> WLMail to rebuild its Quick view data store when it is next started.
>
> I've done this. (ie. shut down WLM, deleted value, restarted WLM).
> Now my quick views is totally empty - but I got email all throughout my accounts!
>
>
> 2. "Syncing" messages does not bring up dialog task box showing progress.
>
> In order to see the dialog task and error box of WLM checking each email account I needed to select SYNC > EVERYTHING twice (i
> don't know why - it just had to be twice).
> Now I have no dialog no matter what, except only if there is an error at the end.
> Any advice?
>
>
> 3. RSS is really only very simple indeed.
>
> Is there any chance that MS will incorporate plugins for the RSS readers so that things like flash movies and other items will
> display? (or at least a noticeable place holder?)
> Or is the intention to use Word as the HTML engine (like hurr durr Outlook 2010) and force users to use web based readers to read
> web based syndications?
>
>
> Thanks :-)
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-20-2009   #3 (permalink)
Ron Sommer


 
 

Re: 3 different issues - Quick Views, Syncing and RSS Reading

2. Double click on Sync.
--
Ron Sommer

"Furry Atlas" <furtrash@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ewo0UERCKHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi
>
> ;_; I hate WLM so. I don't know why I have a naive idea MS will listen to
> people who use it and fix the bloody thing.
>
>
> 1. My Quick Views for Mail are not being updated (unread email, all junk
> e-mail, unread feeds etc etc).
>
> Using Google I see that the advice is to:
Quote:

>> Rebuild your Quick views by deleting the registry Value
>> "SearchFolderVersion" under the registry key
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail. This will cause
>> WLMail to rebuild its Quick view data store when it is next started.
>
> I've done this. (ie. shut down WLM, deleted value, restarted WLM).
> Now my quick views is totally empty - but I got email all throughout my
> accounts!
>
>
> 2. "Syncing" messages does not bring up dialog task box showing progress.
>
> In order to see the dialog task and error box of WLM checking each email
> account I needed to select SYNC > EVERYTHING twice (i don't know why - it
> just had to be twice).
> Now I have no dialog no matter what, except only if there is an error at
> the end.
> Any advice?
>
>
> 3. RSS is really only very simple indeed.
>
> Is there any chance that MS will incorporate plugins for the RSS readers
> so that things like flash movies and other items will display? (or at
> least a noticeable place holder?)
> Or is the intention to use Word as the HTML engine (like hurr durr Outlook
> 2010) and force users to use web based readers to read web based
> syndications?
>
>
> Thanks :-)
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-20-2009   #4 (permalink)
Furry Atlas


 
 

Re: 3 different issues - Quick Views, Syncing and RSS Reading

....winston - you do deserve something for unfailing, responsive, level
headed support to this newsgroup. All I can offer is thanks; I hope MS do
something more for you.

1. Toggling doesn't work. Quick View is dead.
In addition to SearchFolderVersion I notice the following values:
SearchFolderLaunchesUntilRebuild
SearchFolders1
I wonder if I should delete these as well?

2. Yes- that worked. Odd - but works.

3. I thought so - just hoping for someone from MS to pipe up and say: "What
a great idea to improve the Windows experience of the multimedia internet
and to interoperate with international and agreed standards! We'll include
it right away and upgrade WLM within hours to fix these and all the other
problems people have been telling us about for months and months and
months!"

What kind of fool am I?

"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OTBq$LRCKHA.4792@xxxxxx
Quote:

> 1. That is the only known fix and it functions on the counter. Try
> toggling QV on an off(View/Layout/Folder Pane) or toggling Show all
> messages off an on.
>
> 2. That's how it works..no other options at this time....press Sync Twice
> or F5 twice or click on the icon in the lower right of the status bar
> before the process completes.
>
> 3. View feeds in IE if you need more features...wysiwyg
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Furry Atlas" <furtrash@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ewo0UERCKHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi
>>
>> ;_; I hate WLM so. I don't know why I have a naive idea MS will listen to
>> people who use it and fix the bloody thing.
>>
>>
>> 1. My Quick Views for Mail are not being updated (unread email, all junk
>> e-mail, unread feeds etc etc).
>>
>> Using Google I see that the advice is to:
Quote:

>>> Rebuild your Quick views by deleting the registry Value
>>> "SearchFolderVersion" under the registry key
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail. This will cause
>>> WLMail to rebuild its Quick view data store when it is next started.
>>
>> I've done this. (ie. shut down WLM, deleted value, restarted WLM).
>> Now my quick views is totally empty - but I got email all throughout my
>> accounts!
>>
>>
>> 2. "Syncing" messages does not bring up dialog task box showing progress.
>>
>> In order to see the dialog task and error box of WLM checking each email
>> account I needed to select SYNC > EVERYTHING twice (i don't know why - it
>> just had to be twice).
>> Now I have no dialog no matter what, except only if there is an error at
>> the end.
>> Any advice?
>>
>>
>> 3. RSS is really only very simple indeed.
>>
>> Is there any chance that MS will incorporate plugins for the RSS readers
>> so that things like flash movies and other items will display? (or at
>> least a noticeable place holder?)
>> Or is the intention to use Word as the HTML engine (like hurr durr
>> Outlook 2010) and force users to use web based readers to read web based
>> syndications?
>>
>>
>> Thanks :-)
>>
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-20-2009   #5 (permalink)
GbH


 
 

Re: 3 different issues - Quick Views, Syncing and RSS Reading


"Furry Atlas" <furtrash@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#Ldf8cRCKHA.3724@xxxxxx
Quote:

> ...winston - you do deserve something for unfailing, responsive, level
> headed support to this newsgroup. All I can offer is thanks; I hope MS
> do something more for you.
>
> 1. Toggling doesn't work. Quick View is dead.
> In addition to SearchFolderVersion I notice the following values:
> SearchFolderLaunchesUntilRebuild
> SearchFolders1
> I wonder if I should delete these as well?
>
> 2. Yes- that worked. Odd - but works.
>
> 3. I thought so - just hoping for someone from MS to pipe up and say:
> "What a great idea to improve the Windows experience of the multimedia
> internet and to interoperate with international and agreed standards!
> We'll include it right away and upgrade WLM within hours to fix these
> and all the other problems people have been telling us about for
> months and months and months!"
>
> What kind of fool am I?
One similar to myself, living in forlorn hope I fear.

--
Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could
remember the darn question


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-20-2009   #6 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: 3 different issues - Quick Views, Syncing and RSS Reading

One of your potential problems is that you are having AVG scan
your emails. This often causes corruption in email clients, see
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm

Your AVG antivirus was probably installed with its default install option.
If so, uninstall it, then reinstall, but select 'custom' install, which then
allows you to unselect installing its troublesome email scanning module.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Furry Atlas" <furtrash@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ewo0UERCKHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi
>
> ;_; I hate WLM so. I don't know why I have a naive idea MS will listen to
> people who use it and fix the bloody thing.
>
>
> 1. My Quick Views for Mail are not being updated (unread email, all junk
> e-mail, unread feeds etc etc).
>
> Using Google I see that the advice is to:
Quote:

>> Rebuild your Quick views by deleting the registry Value
>> "SearchFolderVersion" under the registry key
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail. This will cause
>> WLMail to rebuild its Quick view data store when it is next started.
>
> I've done this. (ie. shut down WLM, deleted value, restarted WLM).
> Now my quick views is totally empty - but I got email all throughout my
> accounts!
>
>
> 2. "Syncing" messages does not bring up dialog task box showing progress.
>
> In order to see the dialog task and error box of WLM checking each email
> account I needed to select SYNC > EVERYTHING twice (i don't know why - it
> just had to be twice).
> Now I have no dialog no matter what, except only if there is an error at the
> end.
> Any advice?
>
>
> 3. RSS is really only very simple indeed.
>
> Is there any chance that MS will incorporate plugins for the RSS readers so
> that things like flash movies and other items will display? (or at least a
> noticeable place holder?)
> Or is the intention to use Word as the HTML engine (like hurr durr Outlook
> 2010) and force users to use web based readers to read web based
> syndications?
>
>
> Thanks :-)
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-21-2009   #7 (permalink)
Furry Atlas


 
 

Re: 3 different issues - Quick Views, Syncing and RSS Reading

Thanks Gary.

Actually I am using avast! And it the problem of Quick View not working
happened because I stupidly decided to delete a storage folder that I did no
longer required.

Causing me sadness is that the article discusses Outlook Express - the
functional legacy program that Microsoft withdrew support from - and I see
that microsoft email stores can be corrupted if users use avast! or other
antivirus program to monitor email.

Great.

I have given up. I am currently migrating to Thunderbird. The only problem I
have so far is of course accessing hotmail and live.com mail via
thunderbird. Common problem. Investigating solutions.

Bloody microsoft - either make an email program that works - or grow up, get
out of the way and make it possible for functional programs to access ms
webmail.

Next option is of course to migrate all hotmail and live.com accounts to
Gmail. A pain - but will finally resolve years of being frigged around with
pop access on pop access off, hotmail msnmail livemail, group chat msn chat
live chat, groups no groups, etc etc.

Thanks everyone for your random help over the years. I have appreciated it.

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uyG#5PaCKHA.3800@xxxxxx
Quote:

> One of your potential problems is that you are having AVG scan
> your emails. This often causes corruption in email clients, see
> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
>
> Your AVG antivirus was probably installed with its default install option.
> If so, uninstall it, then reinstall, but select 'custom' install, which
> then
> allows you to unselect installing its troublesome email scanning module.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "Furry Atlas" <furtrash@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ewo0UERCKHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi
>>
>> ;_; I hate WLM so. I don't know why I have a naive idea MS will listen to
>> people who use it and fix the bloody thing.
>>
>>
>> 1. My Quick Views for Mail are not being updated (unread email, all junk
>> e-mail, unread feeds etc etc).
>>
>> Using Google I see that the advice is to:
Quote:

>>> Rebuild your Quick views by deleting the registry Value
>>> "SearchFolderVersion" under the registry key
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail. This will cause
>>> WLMail to rebuild its Quick view data store when it is next started.
>>
>> I've done this. (ie. shut down WLM, deleted value, restarted WLM).
>> Now my quick views is totally empty - but I got email all throughout my
>> accounts!
>>
>>
>> 2. "Syncing" messages does not bring up dialog task box showing progress.
>>
>> In order to see the dialog task and error box of WLM checking each email
>> account I needed to select SYNC > EVERYTHING twice (i don't know why - it
>> just had to be twice).
>> Now I have no dialog no matter what, except only if there is an error at
>> the
>> end.
>> Any advice?
>>
>>
>> 3. RSS is really only very simple indeed.
>>
>> Is there any chance that MS will incorporate plugins for the RSS readers
>> so
>> that things like flash movies and other items will display? (or at least
>> a
>> noticeable place holder?)
>> Or is the intention to use Word as the HTML engine (like hurr durr
>> Outlook
>> 2010) and force users to use web based readers to read web based
>> syndications?
>>
>>
>> Thanks :-)
>>
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-21-2009   #8 (permalink)
GbH


 
 

Re: 3 different issues - Quick Views, Syncing and RSS Reading


"Furry Atlas" <furtrash@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:upZOYGdCKHA.1336@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thanks Gary.
>
> Actually I am using avast! And it the problem of Quick View not
> working happened because I stupidly decided to delete a storage folder
> that I did no longer required.
>
> Causing me sadness is that the article discusses Outlook Express - the
> functional legacy program that Microsoft withdrew support from - and I
> see that microsoft email stores can be corrupted if users use avast!
> or other antivirus program to monitor email.
<Ping> Furry, please email a usable reply address.
my reply-to is hopefully easily despam-trapped.

--
Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could
remember the darn question


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-21-2009   #9 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: 3 different issues - Quick Views, Syncing and RSS Reading

Oops, yes. The same instructions apply to both AVG and Avast.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Peter.R" <Peter.R@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:AFF6AF46-5311-42D3-9E6B-E05756AF78A9@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> By "AVG", I am sure Gary meant "avast!" (X-Antivirus: avast!)
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Peter.R
> (Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 with IE7 & Windows Live Mail 2009 14.0.8064.0206)
> "There are more things in Heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Shakespeare
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uyG#5PaCKHA.3800@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

>> One of your potential problems is that you are having AVG scan
>> your emails. This often causes corruption in email clients, see
>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
>>
>> Your AVG antivirus was probably installed with its default install option.
>> If so, uninstall it, then reinstall, but select 'custom' install, which then
>> allows you to unselect installing its troublesome email scanning module.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>>
>>
>> "Furry Atlas" <furtrash@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ewo0UERCKHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Hi
>>>
>>> ;_; I hate WLM so. I don't know why I have a naive idea MS will listen to
>>> people who use it and fix the bloody thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. My Quick Views for Mail are not being updated (unread email, all junk
>>> e-mail, unread feeds etc etc).
>>>
>>> Using Google I see that the advice is to:
>>>> Rebuild your Quick views by deleting the registry Value
>>>> "SearchFolderVersion" under the registry key
>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail. This will cause
>>>> WLMail to rebuild its Quick view data store when it is next started.
>>>
>>> I've done this. (ie. shut down WLM, deleted value, restarted WLM).
>>> Now my quick views is totally empty - but I got email all throughout my
>>> accounts!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. "Syncing" messages does not bring up dialog task box showing progress.
>>>
>>> In order to see the dialog task and error box of WLM checking each email
>>> account I needed to select SYNC > EVERYTHING twice (i don't know why - it
>>> just had to be twice).
>>> Now I have no dialog no matter what, except only if there is an error at the
>>> end.
>>> Any advice?
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. RSS is really only very simple indeed.
>>>
>>> Is there any chance that MS will incorporate plugins for the RSS readers so
>>> that things like flash movies and other items will display? (or at least a
>>> noticeable place holder?)
>>> Or is the intention to use Word as the HTML engine (like hurr durr Outlook
>>> 2010) and force users to use web based readers to read web based
>>> syndications?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks :-)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-21-2009   #10 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: 3 different issues - Quick Views, Syncing and RSS Reading

I don't know enough about Thunderbird to tell you whether it will
also suffer bad effects from antivirus email scanning.
Needless to say, there is no perfect email program, and sometimes
we need to learn to live with the one that sucks the least.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)


"Furry Atlas" <furtrash@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:upZOYGdCKHA.1336@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thanks Gary.
>
> Actually I am using avast! And it the problem of Quick View not working
> happened because I stupidly decided to delete a storage folder that I did no
> longer required.
>
> Causing me sadness is that the article discusses Outlook Express - the
> functional legacy program that Microsoft withdrew support from - and I see
> that microsoft email stores can be corrupted if users use avast! or other
> antivirus program to monitor email.
>
> Great.
>
> I have given up. I am currently migrating to Thunderbird. The only problem I
> have so far is of course accessing hotmail and live.com mail via
> thunderbird. Common problem. Investigating solutions.
>
> Bloody microsoft - either make an email program that works - or grow up, get
> out of the way and make it possible for functional programs to access ms
> webmail.
>
> Next option is of course to migrate all hotmail and live.com accounts to
> Gmail. A pain - but will finally resolve years of being frigged around with
> pop access on pop access off, hotmail msnmail livemail, group chat msn chat
> live chat, groups no groups, etc etc.
>
> Thanks everyone for your random help over the years. I have appreciated it.
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uyG#5PaCKHA.3800@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> One of your potential problems is that you are having AVG scan
>> your emails. This often causes corruption in email clients, see
>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
>>
>> Your AVG antivirus was probably installed with its default install option.
>> If so, uninstall it, then reinstall, but select 'custom' install, which
>> then
>> allows you to unselect installing its troublesome email scanning module.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>>
>>
>> "Furry Atlas" <furtrash@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:ewo0UERCKHA.5780@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Hi
>>>
>>> ;_; I hate WLM so. I don't know why I have a naive idea MS will listen to
>>> people who use it and fix the bloody thing.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. My Quick Views for Mail are not being updated (unread email, all junk
>>> e-mail, unread feeds etc etc).
>>>
>>> Using Google I see that the advice is to:
>>>> Rebuild your Quick views by deleting the registry Value
>>>> "SearchFolderVersion" under the registry key
>>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Live Mail. This will cause
>>>> WLMail to rebuild its Quick view data store when it is next started.
>>>
>>> I've done this. (ie. shut down WLM, deleted value, restarted WLM).
>>> Now my quick views is totally empty - but I got email all throughout my
>>> accounts!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. "Syncing" messages does not bring up dialog task box showing progress.
>>>
>>> In order to see the dialog task and error box of WLM checking each email
>>> account I needed to select SYNC > EVERYTHING twice (i don't know why - it
>>> just had to be twice).
>>> Now I have no dialog no matter what, except only if there is an error at
>>> the
>>> end.
>>> Any advice?
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. RSS is really only very simple indeed.
>>>
>>> Is there any chance that MS will incorporate plugins for the RSS readers
>>> so
>>> that things like flash movies and other items will display? (or at least
>>> a
>>> noticeable place holder?)
>>> Or is the intention to use Word as the HTML engine (like hurr durr
>>> Outlook
>>> 2010) and force users to use web based readers to read web based
>>> syndications?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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