We've heard that Windows 7 will ship with no mail client and no
browser. In view of the fact that WLMail currently depends on IE for
some of its functioning (e.g. printing), does this mean that WLMail
Wave 4 will include its own print engine, internet connection
mechanisms and so on? Or are these built in to the OS?
--
Noel

The last that I read was no browser in Europe, IE 8 for everyone else.
--
Ron Sommer

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#RKzsl1DKHA.1336@xxxxxx

> We've heard that Windows 7 will ship with no mail client and no browser.
> In view of the fact that WLMail currently depends on IE for some of its
> functioning (e.g. printing), does this mean that WLMail Wave 4 will
> include its own print engine, internet connection mechanisms and so on? Or
> are these built in to the OS?
> --
> Noel

"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#2iKl22DKHA.1376@xxxxxx

> The last that I read was no browser in Europe, IE 8 for everyone else.

This may change.....
see this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8168235.stm

Windows 7 will not come with WLM. That will have to be downloaded
separately.
As for the browser, from what I understand (although this appears to be
changing almost daily), the EU version of Windows 7 will now allow you to
choose which browser you want installed.
The question really is, what if someone picks Firefox as their browser then
downloads WLM. Will WLM work correctly? The answer to which is I currently
have no idea as this scenario has never been tested (to my knowledge. The
beta code included IE8 so this wasn't something that could be tested).
WLM isn't the only product that's reliant on IE however.

Colin Brown
WL MVP

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#RKzsl1DKHA.1336@xxxxxx

> We've heard that Windows 7 will ship with no mail client and no browser.
> In view of the fact that WLMail currently depends on IE for some of its
> functioning (e.g. printing), does this mean that WLMail Wave 4 will
> include its own print engine, internet connection mechanisms and so on? Or
> are these built in to the OS?
> --
> Noel

That was precisely my point. Either WLMail 2010 (or whatever the
next release is called) is designed to work independent of IE, or
IE8 - or some elements of it - will be insinuated into the
'essentials' package along with the other bits that the Live (and
other?) apps need to function. Another option would be to
incorporate the 'common' functions of IE - like its print engine or
Internet connection discovery mechanism - into the OS, but if that
had happened, you beta testers would have noticed. Then again, they
might have forgotten that WLMail has to have IE in order to work
properly. It'll be interesting to find out.

Is there any chance, do you think, that the next version of WLMail
will no longer function under XP?
--
Noel

"Colin Brown WLMVP" <Hackersoft1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:9E0623D0-5A45-4035-92B3-B82DA46F1735@xxxxxx

> Windows 7 will not come with WLM. That will have to be downloaded
> separately.
> As for the browser, from what I understand (although this appears
> to be changing almost daily), the EU version of Windows 7 will now
> allow you to choose which browser you want installed.
> The question really is, what if someone picks Firefox as their
> browser then downloads WLM. Will WLM work correctly? The answer to
> which is I currently have no idea as this scenario has never been
> tested (to my knowledge. The beta code included IE8 so this wasn't
> something that could be tested).
> WLM isn't the only product that's reliant on IE however.

> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#RKzsl1DKHA.1336@xxxxxx

>> We've heard that Windows 7 will ship with no mail client and no
>> browser. In view of the fact that WLMail currently depends on IE
>> for some of its functioning (e.g. printing), does this mean that
>> WLMail Wave 4 will include its own print engine, internet
>> connection mechanisms and so on? Or are these built in to the OS?

Maybe the functionality will be added to Outlook instead of WLM.
--
Ron Sommer

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:evLVD97DKHA.4316@xxxxxx

> That was precisely my point. Either WLMail 2010 (or whatever the next
> release is called) is designed to work independent of IE, or IE8 - or some
> elements of it - will be insinuated into the 'essentials' package along
> with the other bits that the Live (and other?) apps need to function.
> Another option would be to incorporate the 'common' functions of IE - like
> its print engine or Internet connection discovery mechanism - into the OS,
> but if that had happened, you beta testers would have noticed. Then again,
> they might have forgotten that WLMail has to have IE in order to work
> properly. It'll be interesting to find out.
>
> Is there any chance, do you think, that the next version of WLMail will no
> longer function under XP?
> --
> Noel
>
> "Colin Brown WLMVP" <Hackersoft1@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:9E0623D0-5A45-4035-92B3-B82DA46F1735@xxxxxx

>> Windows 7 will not come with WLM. That will have to be downloaded
>> separately.
>> As for the browser, from what I understand (although this appears to be
>> changing almost daily), the EU version of Windows 7 will now allow you to
>> choose which browser you want installed.
>> The question really is, what if someone picks Firefox as their browser
>> then downloads WLM. Will WLM work correctly? The answer to which is I
>> currently have no idea as this scenario has never been tested (to my
>> knowledge. The beta code included IE8 so this wasn't something that could
>> be tested).
>> WLM isn't the only product that's reliant on IE however.

>

>> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#RKzsl1DKHA.1336@xxxxxx

>>> We've heard that Windows 7 will ship with no mail client and no browser.
>>> In view of the fact that WLMail currently depends on IE for some of its
>>> functioning (e.g. printing), does this mean that WLMail Wave 4 will
>>> include its own print engine, internet connection mechanisms and so on?
>>> Or are these built in to the OS?

>
>
>

It would be more likely to include an option in the WLM install procedure to install IE and/or update the system requirements
page(especially since the optional Live Toolbar requires IE6 or later, thus on any version of Windows 7 without IE, IE8 would meet
that bill)

Fyi...the current o/s offerings for downloading IE7(not IE8) are XP and Server 2003 unlike IE8 which offers XP, Vista, Server 03
and 08.

With respect to WLM and XP...with XP support around at least for 4 more years not being able to run WLM Wave4 seems remote..


--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#RKzsl1DKHA.1336@xxxxxx

> We've heard that Windows 7 will ship with no mail client and no browser. In view of the fact that WLMail currently depends on IE
> for some of its functioning (e.g. printing), does this mean that WLMail Wave 4 will include its own print engine, internet
> connection mechanisms and so on? Or are these built in to the OS?
> --
> Noel