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08-09-2009   #1
Jack


 
 

Windows Live Mail, Turn Off Automatic Downloading of Messages

I can't find the setting to turn off automatic checking of email messages
within Windows Live Mail. When I launch Windows Live Mail, it does not
automatically check for messages, which is the way I want things. But I
noticed that after checking my mail, it will at some time that I haven't
figured out, goes out and checks for new emails and downloads them. How do I
turn this off?



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08-09-2009   #2
Michael H. Lewis


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail, Turn Off Automatic Downloading of Messages

Uncheck "Check for new mails every:" in options.
--
**********
Michael

"Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#HBSwFVGKHA.3888@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I can't find the setting to turn off automatic checking of email messages
> within Windows Live Mail. When I launch Windows Live Mail, it does not
> automatically check for messages, which is the way I want things. But I
> noticed that after checking my mail, it will at some time that I haven't
> figured out, goes out and checks for new emails and downloads them. How do
> I
> turn this off?
>
>
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08-09-2009   #3
Jack


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail, Turn Off Automatic Downloading of Messages

I have "Check for New Messages Every" already deselected via the Options |
General tab. Any other ideas where this may be coded?

"Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:433666DB-2CBD-4DCC-A904-EF0319562B1A@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Uncheck "Check for new mails every:" in options.
> --
> **********
> Michael
>
> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#HBSwFVGKHA.3888@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I can't find the setting to turn off automatic checking of email messages
>> within Windows Live Mail. When I launch Windows Live Mail, it does not
>> automatically check for messages, which is the way I want things. But I
>> noticed that after checking my mail, it will at some time that I haven't
>> figured out, goes out and checks for new emails and downloads them. How
>> do I
>> turn this off?
>>
>>
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08-10-2009   #4
Jack


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail, Turn Off Automatic Downloading of Messages

Correct, I only want to check my manually and this has worked on every
version of Mail that I've used before, such as Outlook Express, Windows Mail
and other non Microsoft email programs. For some reason, Windows Live Mail
is ignoring my setting of "Disable".

"Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:949FC8E3-6471-44A2-A004-BF4C92DEF548@xxxxxx
Quote:

> So, you only want to manually check for mail? Hmm, I don't know, I've
> always had it check every 5 minutes.
> --
> **********
> Michael
>
> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ekMym6VGKHA.4004@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> I have "Check for New Messages Every" already deselected via the Options
>> | General tab. Any other ideas where this may be coded?
>>
>> "Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:433666DB-2CBD-4DCC-A904-EF0319562B1A@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Uncheck "Check for new mails every:" in options.
>>> --
>>> **********
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:#HBSwFVGKHA.3888@xxxxxx
>>>> I can't find the setting to turn off automatic checking of email
>>>> messages
>>>> within Windows Live Mail. When I launch Windows Live Mail, it does not
>>>> automatically check for messages, which is the way I want things. But I
>>>> noticed that after checking my mail, it will at some time that I
>>>> haven't
>>>> figured out, goes out and checks for new emails and downloads them. How
>>>> do I
>>>> turn this off?
>>>>
>>>>
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08-10-2009   #5
t-4-2


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail, Turn Off Automatic Downloading of Messages

If you knew how to " disable " it in Windows mail, why don't you do the same
with Windows Live Mail ?
t-4-2

"Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OyntBBYGKHA.3948@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Correct, I only want to check my manually and this has worked on every
> version of Mail that I've used before, such as Outlook Express, Windows
> Mail and other non Microsoft email programs. For some reason, Windows Live
> Mail is ignoring my setting of "Disable".
>
> "Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:949FC8E3-6471-44A2-A004-BF4C92DEF548@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> So, you only want to manually check for mail? Hmm, I don't know, I've
>> always had it check every 5 minutes.
>> --
>> **********
>> Michael
>>
>> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:ekMym6VGKHA.4004@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> I have "Check for New Messages Every" already deselected via the Options
>>> | General tab. Any other ideas where this may be coded?
>>>
>>> "Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:433666DB-2CBD-4DCC-A904-EF0319562B1A@xxxxxx
>>>> Uncheck "Check for new mails every:" in options.
>>>> --
>>>> **********
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:#HBSwFVGKHA.3888@xxxxxx
>>>>> I can't find the setting to turn off automatic checking of email
>>>>> messages
>>>>> within Windows Live Mail. When I launch Windows Live Mail, it does not
>>>>> automatically check for messages, which is the way I want things. But
>>>>> I
>>>>> noticed that after checking my mail, it will at some time that I
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> figured out, goes out and checks for new emails and downloads them.
>>>>> How do I
>>>>> turn this off?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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08-10-2009   #6
Michael H. Lewis


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail, Turn Off Automatic Downloading of Messages

So, if you send yourself a message with all email checking turned off in
Options and just wait, it will receive and download it?
--
**********
Michael

"Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OyntBBYGKHA.3948@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Correct, I only want to check my manually and this has worked on every
> version of Mail that I've used before, such as Outlook Express, Windows
> Mail and other non Microsoft email programs. For some reason, Windows Live
> Mail is ignoring my setting of "Disable".
>
> "Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:949FC8E3-6471-44A2-A004-BF4C92DEF548@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> So, you only want to manually check for mail? Hmm, I don't know, I've
>> always had it check every 5 minutes.
>> --
>> **********
>> Michael
>>
>> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:ekMym6VGKHA.4004@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> I have "Check for New Messages Every" already deselected via the Options
>>> | General tab. Any other ideas where this may be coded?
>>>
>>> "Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:433666DB-2CBD-4DCC-A904-EF0319562B1A@xxxxxx
>>>> Uncheck "Check for new mails every:" in options.
>>>> --
>>>> **********
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:#HBSwFVGKHA.3888@xxxxxx
>>>>> I can't find the setting to turn off automatic checking of email
>>>>> messages
>>>>> within Windows Live Mail. When I launch Windows Live Mail, it does not
>>>>> automatically check for messages, which is the way I want things. But
>>>>> I
>>>>> noticed that after checking my mail, it will at some time that I
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> figured out, goes out and checks for new emails and downloads them.
>>>>> How do I
>>>>> turn this off?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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08-10-2009   #7
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail, Turn Off Automatic Downloading of Messages

Windows Live Mail has a bug that causes it to check mail even
when automatic checking is disabled. One thing that will trigger
it is a momentary loss of Internet connection.
Most users don't notice the unwanted mail checking because
they have Windows Live Mail configured to check for new mail
every X minutes.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


"Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OyntBBYGKHA.3948@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Correct, I only want to check my manually and this has worked on every
> version of Mail that I've used before, such as Outlook Express, Windows Mail
> and other non Microsoft email programs. For some reason, Windows Live Mail
> is ignoring my setting of "Disable".
>
> "Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:949FC8E3-6471-44A2-A004-BF4C92DEF548@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> So, you only want to manually check for mail? Hmm, I don't know, I've
>> always had it check every 5 minutes.
>> --
>> **********
>> Michael
>>
>> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:ekMym6VGKHA.4004@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> I have "Check for New Messages Every" already deselected via the Options
>>> | General tab. Any other ideas where this may be coded?
>>>
>>> "Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:433666DB-2CBD-4DCC-A904-EF0319562B1A@xxxxxx
>>>> Uncheck "Check for new mails every:" in options.
>>>> --
>>>> **********
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:#HBSwFVGKHA.3888@xxxxxx
>>>>> I can't find the setting to turn off automatic checking of email
>>>>> messages
>>>>> within Windows Live Mail. When I launch Windows Live Mail, it does not
>>>>> automatically check for messages, which is the way I want things. But I
>>>>> noticed that after checking my mail, it will at some time that I
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> figured out, goes out and checks for new emails and downloads them. How
>>>>> do I
>>>>> turn this off?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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08-10-2009   #8
Ildhund


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail, Turn Off Automatic Downloading of Messages

I know you've said this before, Gary, but I've let it pass. Does
this happen to other accounts than HTTP ones? I suspect not,
although I'm not sure about IMAP because I only have a Gmail IMAP
account and they're a bit idiosyncratic.

It is the whole idea of synchronization that the client reflects the
server. This cannot work absolutely, because that would involve
having a permanent open link between client and server, so
Hotmail/WLMail approach the ideal by synchronizing at intervals.
This applies to contacts and calendar, and from what you say, to
mail message folders as well. It's what I would expect, even though
it involves discarding the 'old' POP idea of 'downloading'. Unless
you have deselected 'Include this account when receiving mail or
synchronizing' - indicating that you're not interested in keeping
your local folders current - WLMail will make its best effort to
keep everything synchronized.

I'm not sure how this ties in with being signed in, which is a
precondition of being able to keep calendar and contacts in sync.
So, does your 'unwanted download' also apply to accounts other than
the one corresponding to the Live ID you're signed in with? And does
it happen at all if you're not signed in?

The OP's reference to 'every version of Mail that I've used before'
highlights the novelty of synchronizing v. downloading. One sure way
to prevent unwanted syncs is to use the 'Work offline' option; it is
an easily acquired habit to type Alt-F W Alt-T A and then Alt-F W
again once the download is complete. This is a nuisance, of course,
if (like me) you spend a lot of time in busy newsgroups.

Another way is to use POP3 instead of HTTP to access Hotmail. And a
third is my own way - use both, with 'Include this account...'
deselected on the HTTP account. That way I can use message rules to
sort my Hotmail locally while leaving a copy on the server, and then
once in a while sync via HTTP and do my housekeeping locally. This
way I can keep my webmail inbox manageable, keep my local archive
sorted and tidy, and only use webmail when I'm away from home. I
never have to move messages locally - rules do it all for me.

If you do a Fiddler trace when performing a sync, you'll see early
on in the session the xml settings file in response to POST
/DeltaSync_v2.0.0/Settings.aspx? to the server where the account
resides. Among the first entries is
<MinSyncPollInterval>30</MinSyncPollInterval>, which I think means
that if 'Include this account...' is selected, then WLMail will try
to sync it at least every 30 minutes. The timer might get reset by a
hiccup in your internet connection, which would explain why a sync
takes place after such a hiccup.

I think we're talking about a feature rather than a bug, and I'd be
interested in your thoughts on all this.
--
Noel

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#Yu5kUYGKHA.3948@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Windows Live Mail has a bug that causes it to check mail even when
> automatic checking is disabled. One thing that will trigger it is
> a momentary loss of Internet connection.
> Most users don't notice the unwanted mail checking because they
> have Windows Live Mail configured to check for new mail every X
> minutes.
Quote:

> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OyntBBYGKHA.3948@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Correct, I only want to check my manually and this has worked on
>> every version of Mail that I've used before, such as Outlook
>> Express, Windows Mail and other non Microsoft email programs. For
>> some reason, Windows Live Mail is ignoring my setting of
>> "Disable".
Quote:
Quote:

>> "Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:949FC8E3-6471-44A2-A004-BF4C92DEF548@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> So, you only want to manually check for mail? Hmm, I don't know,
>>> I've always had it check every 5 minutes.
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:ekMym6VGKHA.4004@xxxxxx
>>>> I have "Check for New Messages Every" already deselected via
>>>> the Options | General tab. Any other ideas where this may be
>>>> coded?
>>>>
>>>> "Michael H. Lewis" <mikalis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:433666DB-2CBD-4DCC-A904-EF0319562B1A@xxxxxx
>>>>> Uncheck "Check for new mails every:" in options.
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>>>> "Jack" <jack@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:#HBSwFVGKHA.3888@xxxxxx
>>>>>> I can't find the setting to turn off automatic checking of
>>>>>> email messages within Windows Live Mail. When I launch
>>>>>> Windows Live Mail, it does not automatically check for
>>>>>> messages, which is the way I want things. But I noticed that
>>>>>> after checking my mail, it will at some time that I haven't
>>>>>> figured out, goes out and checks for new emails and downloads
>>>>>> them. How do I turn this off?


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08-10-2009   #9
Ron Sommer


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail, Turn Off Automatic Downloading of Messages

To stop mail checks, work offline is not much of an option, because taking
WLM offline also takes IE offline.
Work offline can be used when opening suspicious emails or doing WLM
maintenance.
--
Ron Sommer
MVP-Mail

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OLWNdYZGKHA.1252@xxxxxx
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Quote:

> The OP's reference to 'every version of Mail that I've used before'
> highlights the novelty of synchronizing v. downloading. One sure way to
> prevent unwanted syncs is to use the 'Work offline' option; it is an
> easily acquired habit to type Alt-F W Alt-T A and then Alt-F W again once
> the download is complete. This is a nuisance, of course, if (like me) you
> spend a lot of time in busy newsgroups.
>
snipped

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08-10-2009   #10
Ildhund


 
 

Re: Windows Live Mail, Turn Off Automatic Downloading of Messages

Sure - it's a real nuisance if you're used to being online all the
time.
Incidentally, if your default browser is something other than IE,
does that stay online even though you Work offline in WLMail?
--
Noel

"Ron Sommer" <rsommer@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Om$R45aGKHA.3948@xxxxxx
Quote:

> To stop mail checks, work offline is not much of an option,
> because taking WLM offline also takes IE offline.
> Work offline can be used when opening suspicious emails or doing
> WLM maintenance.
> --
> Ron Sommer
> MVP-Mail
>
> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OLWNdYZGKHA.1252@xxxxxx
> snipped
Quote:

>> The OP's reference to 'every version of Mail that I've used
>> before' highlights the novelty of synchronizing v. downloading.
>> One sure way to prevent unwanted syncs is to use the 'Work
>> offline' option; it is an easily acquired habit to type Alt-F W
>> Alt-T A and then Alt-F W again once the download is complete.
>> This is a nuisance, of course, if (like me) you spend a lot of
>> time in busy newsgroups.
>>
> snipped
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