With Windows Live Mail clumsiness and awkwardness - Thunderbird 3 will
flourish

Microsoft is stubborn and def on users suggestion and demands
this opens the fields for Thunderbird 3 as a mail & news reader default.
Is this beginning of end MS prosperity and rule in mail client and news
reading
applications?

I'm using Windows 7 which is OK - but Windows Live Mail is the
most user unfriendly application Microsoft ever produced.

I have been using WLM for the last three months - long enough to give it a
fair chance of impressing me. I am using the latest version. Like you I find
it clumsy and awkward. It is also inclined to leave me looking at the
spinner and, randomly, a message saying it's not responding. Even Windows
Task Manager is sometimes reluctant to 'End task'. Windows Mail suited me
fine. I am currently looking at replacements including Thunderbird.

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see that Microsoft has left a way for users of
WLM to transfer their messages, contacts and account settings from WLM to
Thunderbird or any other email client.

"Jdr" <jd.ross@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:u#K5v4YGKHA.1340@xxxxxx

> With Windows Live Mail clumsiness and awkwardness - Thunderbird 3 will
> flourish
>
> Microsoft is stubborn and def on users suggestion and demands
> this opens the fields for Thunderbird 3 as a mail & news reader default.
> Is this beginning of end MS prosperity and rule in mail client and news
> reading
> applications?
>
> I'm using Windows 7 which is OK - but Windows Live Mail is the
> most user unfriendly application Microsoft ever produced.

I've been using Windows Live Mail for 30 months, and I can assure
you that seeing a spinning cursor or 'not responding' behavior is
not normal. So, there is something else going on with your system
that is causing the problem.

If you decide to switch to Thunderbird, I believe it has an
Import/Export add-on that can be used to import .eml messages.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


"Doug" <doug@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OF6dUD0GKHA.4168@xxxxxx

>I have been using WLM for the last three months - long enough to give it a
> fair chance of impressing me. I am using the latest version. Like you I find
> it clumsy and awkward. It is also inclined to leave me looking at the
> spinner and, randomly, a message saying it's not responding. Even Windows
> Task Manager is sometimes reluctant to 'End task'. Windows Mail suited me
> fine. I am currently looking at replacements including Thunderbird.
>
> I hope I'm wrong but I don't see that Microsoft has left a way for users of
> WLM to transfer their messages, contacts and account settings from WLM to
> Thunderbird or any other email client.
>
> "Jdr" <jd.ross@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:u#K5v4YGKHA.1340@xxxxxx

>> With Windows Live Mail clumsiness and awkwardness - Thunderbird 3 will
>> flourish
>>
>> Microsoft is stubborn and def on users suggestion and demands
>> this opens the fields for Thunderbird 3 as a mail & news reader default.
>> Is this beginning of end MS prosperity and rule in mail client and news
>> reading
>> applications?
>>
>> I'm using Windows 7 which is OK - but Windows Live Mail is the
>> most user unfriendly application Microsoft ever produced.

>
>

Windows Live Mail is capable of exporting the following:
Messages to *.eml files
Account settings to *.iaf files
Contacts to *.csv file or each contact to a vcf file


Any other program would have to have an import function and engine to accommodate the above or support use of a third party utility
to do the same.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Doug" <doug@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OF6dUD0GKHA.4168@xxxxxx

> I have been using WLM for the last three months - long enough to give it a fair chance of impressing me. I am using the latest
> version. Like you I find it clumsy and awkward. It is also inclined to leave me looking at the spinner and, randomly, a message
> saying it's not responding. Even Windows Task Manager is sometimes reluctant to 'End task'. Windows Mail suited me fine. I am
> currently looking at replacements including Thunderbird.
>
> I hope I'm wrong but I don't see that Microsoft has left a way for users of WLM to transfer their messages, contacts and account
> settings from WLM to Thunderbird or any other email client.
>
> "Jdr" <jd.ross@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u#K5v4YGKHA.1340@xxxxxx

>> With Windows Live Mail clumsiness and awkwardness - Thunderbird 3 will flourish
>>
>> Microsoft is stubborn and def on users suggestion and demands
>> this opens the fields for Thunderbird 3 as a mail & news reader default.
>> Is this beginning of end MS prosperity and rule in mail client and news reading
>> applications?
>>
>> I'm using Windows 7 which is OK - but Windows Live Mail is the
>> most user unfriendly application Microsoft ever produced.

>
>

Thanks - Doug

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eyBMxz3GKHA.1252@xxxxxx

> I've been using Windows Live Mail for 30 months, and I can assure
> you that seeing a spinning cursor or 'not responding' behavior is
> not normal. So, there is something else going on with your system
> that is causing the problem.
>
> If you decide to switch to Thunderbird, I believe it has an
> Import/Export add-on that can be used to import .eml messages.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen
>
>
> "Doug" <doug@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OF6dUD0GKHA.4168@xxxxxx

>>I have been using WLM for the last three months - long enough to give it a
>> fair chance of impressing me. I am using the latest version. Like you I
>> find
>> it clumsy and awkward. It is also inclined to leave me looking at the
>> spinner and, randomly, a message saying it's not responding. Even Windows
>> Task Manager is sometimes reluctant to 'End task'. Windows Mail suited me
>> fine. I am currently looking at replacements including Thunderbird.
>>
>> I hope I'm wrong but I don't see that Microsoft has left a way for users
>> of
>> WLM to transfer their messages, contacts and account settings from WLM to
>> Thunderbird or any other email client.
>>
>> "Jdr" <jd.ross@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:u#K5v4YGKHA.1340@xxxxxx

>>> With Windows Live Mail clumsiness and awkwardness - Thunderbird 3 will
>>> flourish
>>>
>>> Microsoft is stubborn and def on users suggestion and demands
>>> this opens the fields for Thunderbird 3 as a mail & news reader
>>> default.
>>> Is this beginning of end MS prosperity and rule in mail client and
>>> news
>>> reading
>>> applications?
>>>
>>> I'm using Windows 7 which is OK - but Windows Live Mail is the
>>> most user unfriendly application Microsoft ever produced.

>>
>>

Thanks - Doug

"...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ehkM3Y8GKHA.4552@xxxxxx

> Windows Live Mail is capable of exporting the following:
> Messages to *.eml files
> Account settings to *.iaf files
> Contacts to *.csv file or each contact to a vcf file
>
>
> Any other program would have to have an import function and engine to
> accommodate the above or support use of a third party utility to do the
> same.
>
> --
> ...winston
> ms-mvp mail
>
> "Doug" <doug@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OF6dUD0GKHA.4168@xxxxxx

>> I have been using WLM for the last three months - long enough to give it
>> a fair chance of impressing me. I am using the latest version. Like you I
>> find it clumsy and awkward. It is also inclined to leave me looking at
>> the spinner and, randomly, a message saying it's not responding. Even
>> Windows Task Manager is sometimes reluctant to 'End task'. Windows Mail
>> suited me fine. I am currently looking at replacements including
>> Thunderbird.
>>
>> I hope I'm wrong but I don't see that Microsoft has left a way for users
>> of WLM to transfer their messages, contacts and account settings from WLM
>> to Thunderbird or any other email client.
>>
>> "Jdr" <jd.ross@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:u#K5v4YGKHA.1340@xxxxxx

>>> With Windows Live Mail clumsiness and awkwardness - Thunderbird 3 will
>>> flourish
>>>
>>> Microsoft is stubborn and def on users suggestion and demands
>>> this opens the fields for Thunderbird 3 as a mail & news reader
>>> default.
>>> Is this beginning of end MS prosperity and rule in mail client and
>>> news reading
>>> applications?
>>>
>>> I'm using Windows 7 which is OK - but Windows Live Mail is the
>>> most user unfriendly application Microsoft ever produced.

>>
>>

You're very welcome, Doug.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


"Doug" <doug@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OoL$F$dHKHA.1340@xxxxxx

> Thanks - Doug
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eyBMxz3GKHA.1252@xxxxxx

>> I've been using Windows Live Mail for 30 months, and I can assure
>> you that seeing a spinning cursor or 'not responding' behavior is
>> not normal. So, there is something else going on with your system
>> that is causing the problem.
>>
>> If you decide to switch to Thunderbird, I believe it has an
>> Import/Export add-on that can be used to import .eml messages.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen
>>
>>
>> "Doug" <doug@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OF6dUD0GKHA.4168@xxxxxx

>>>I have been using WLM for the last three months - long enough to give it a
>>> fair chance of impressing me. I am using the latest version. Like you I
>>> find
>>> it clumsy and awkward. It is also inclined to leave me looking at the
>>> spinner and, randomly, a message saying it's not responding. Even Windows
>>> Task Manager is sometimes reluctant to 'End task'. Windows Mail suited me
>>> fine. I am currently looking at replacements including Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> I hope I'm wrong but I don't see that Microsoft has left a way for users
>>> of
>>> WLM to transfer their messages, contacts and account settings from WLM to
>>> Thunderbird or any other email client.
>>>
>>> "Jdr" <jd.ross@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:u#K5v4YGKHA.1340@xxxxxx
>>>> With Windows Live Mail clumsiness and awkwardness - Thunderbird 3 will
>>>> flourish
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft is stubborn and def on users suggestion and demands
>>>> this opens the fields for Thunderbird 3 as a mail & news reader
>>>> default.
>>>> Is this beginning of end MS prosperity and rule in mail client and
>>>> news
>>>> reading
>>>> applications?
>>>>
>>>> I'm using Windows 7 which is OK - but Windows Live Mail is the
>>>> most user unfriendly application Microsoft ever produced.
>>>
>>>

You're welcome.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Doug" <doug@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OQ0YG$dHKHA.1340@xxxxxx

> Thanks - Doug
>
> "...winston" <winstonmvp@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ehkM3Y8GKHA.4552@xxxxxx

>> Windows Live Mail is capable of exporting the following:
>> Messages to *.eml files
>> Account settings to *.iaf files
>> Contacts to *.csv file or each contact to a vcf file
>>
>>
>> Any other program would have to have an import function and engine to
>> accommodate the above or support use of a third party utility to do the
>> same.
>>
>> --
>> ...winston
>> ms-mvp mail
>>
>> "Doug" <doug@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OF6dUD0GKHA.4168@xxxxxx

>>> I have been using WLM for the last three months - long enough to give it
>>> a fair chance of impressing me. I am using the latest version. Like you I
>>> find it clumsy and awkward. It is also inclined to leave me looking at
>>> the spinner and, randomly, a message saying it's not responding. Even
>>> Windows Task Manager is sometimes reluctant to 'End task'. Windows Mail
>>> suited me fine. I am currently looking at replacements including
>>> Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> I hope I'm wrong but I don't see that Microsoft has left a way for users
>>> of WLM to transfer their messages, contacts and account settings from WLM
>>> to Thunderbird or any other email client.
>>>
>>> "Jdr" <jd.ross@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:u#K5v4YGKHA.1340@xxxxxx
>>>> With Windows Live Mail clumsiness and awkwardness - Thunderbird 3 will
>>>> flourish
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft is stubborn and def on users suggestion and demands
>>>> this opens the fields for Thunderbird 3 as a mail & news reader
>>>> default.
>>>> Is this beginning of end MS prosperity and rule in mail client and
>>>> news reading
>>>> applications?
>>>>
>>>> I'm using Windows 7 which is OK - but Windows Live Mail is the
>>>> most user unfriendly application Microsoft ever produced.
>>>
>>>