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Old 08-15-2009   #1 (permalink)
Nate


 
 

Duplicate Messages from gmail

Windows Live Mail is a bug-ridden mess.

Every time it downloads messages from gmail accounts, they are always
duplicated in pairs.

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Old 08-15-2009   #2 (permalink)
MHL


 
 

Re: Duplicate Messages from gmail

Yeah, I eventually took Gmail out of Windows Live Mail and have it forwarded
to one of my other email accounts. You may also notice that the yellow New
Mail Icon will remain on the WLM taskbar icon even though you have no new
Gmail.
--
Michael

Windows 7 RC
IE 8
Windows Live Mail 2009 (latest)
Office 2007 (latest)


"Nate" <Nate@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Windows Live Mail is a bug-ridden mess.
>
> Every time it downloads messages from gmail accounts, they are always
> duplicated in pairs.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-15-2009   #3 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Duplicate Messages from gmail

POP or IMAP protocol?
I use POP with Gmail, and it works perfectly for me.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


"Nate" <Nate@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:E0BD8AD7-1A69-4F0C-BCEE-70C23461FD4F@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Windows Live Mail is a bug-ridden mess.
>
> Every time it downloads messages from gmail accounts, they are always
> duplicated in pairs.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-15-2009   #4 (permalink)
...winston


 
 

Re: Duplicate Messages from gmail

Ditto...Same here, no issues with Gmail as a pop3 in XP/Vista/Win7 using WLM or any version of Outlook.



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...winston
ms-mvp mail

"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#gSlcUdHKHA.5256@xxxxxx
Quote:

> POP or IMAP protocol?
> I use POP with Gmail, and it works perfectly for me.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen
>
>
> "Nate" <Nate@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:E0BD8AD7-1A69-4F0C-BCEE-70C23461FD4F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Windows Live Mail is a bug-ridden mess.
>>
>> Every time it downloads messages from gmail accounts, they are always
>> duplicated in pairs.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-15-2009   #5 (permalink)
Ildhund


 
 

Re: Duplicate Messages from gmail

"Nate" <Nate@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:E0BD8AD7-1A69-4F0C-BCEE-70C23461FD4F@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Windows Live Mail is a bug-ridden mess.
>
> Every time it downloads messages from gmail accounts, they are
> always duplicated in pairs.
If your car engine seized up because you never put any oil in it
because you couldn't find the oil filler cap, would you blame the
car? Many people use IMAP with Gmail with no problems at all.
Gmail's way of storing messages is unique, and different from every
other IMAP server's way of doing it. The WLMail developers have
worked hard to make it possible to use the IMAP protocol with Gmail,
so I can only assume that your settings need adjusting. Here are
some things to check:

1. At [Tools >] Accounts > (Gmail account) > Properties > IMAP, is
the root folder entered as [Gmail]?
2. Is 'Check for new messages in all folders' selected? Try
deselecting it.
3. Is 'Store special folders on IMAP server' selected (so you can
see, for example, messages sent from WLMail when you access Gmail
via the web)? If so, do the boxes contain the same labels as you see
in Gmail on the web?
4. You can see all the labels used on the server on the IMAP
folders tab. You can also choose which ones to show. Do these fit
with your requirements

That should get you a bit closer to making this work - like your
engine would have done if you'd put some oil in it.
--
Noel

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-15-2009   #6 (permalink)
Nate


 
 

RE: Duplicate Messages from gmail

So the consensus is I should be using POP except for the suggestion to use
IMAP.

Does anyone have a link to a web page to walk me thru the correct POP
settings? (Either at Microsoft or Google.)

Following the suggestion of:
[Tools >] Accounts > (Gmail account) > Properties > IMAP

Root folder path: (it's blank)

Check for new messages in all folders (not checked)

Store special folders on IMAP server (not checked)

Sometimes when I watch the Send/Receive window, I can see long pauses at
each folder as it is likely downloading them again and again despite no new
items.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-15-2009   #7 (permalink)
MHL


 
 

Re: Duplicate Messages from gmail

Like my car when I bought it, it just worked. I have to change the oil every
5k, but that is normal.

"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uXDw5kdHKHA.3928@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "Nate" <Nate@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:E0BD8AD7-1A69-4F0C-BCEE-70C23461FD4F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Windows Live Mail is a bug-ridden mess.
>>
>> Every time it downloads messages from gmail accounts, they are always
>> duplicated in pairs.
>
> If your car engine seized up because you never put any oil in it because
> you couldn't find the oil filler cap, would you blame the car? Many people
> use IMAP with Gmail with no problems at all. Gmail's way of storing
> messages is unique, and different from every other IMAP server's way of
> doing it. The WLMail developers have worked hard to make it possible to
> use the IMAP protocol with Gmail, so I can only assume that your settings
> need adjusting. Here are some things to check:
>
> 1. At [Tools >] Accounts > (Gmail account) > Properties > IMAP, is the
> root folder entered as [Gmail]?
> 2. Is 'Check for new messages in all folders' selected? Try deselecting
> it.
> 3. Is 'Store special folders on IMAP server' selected (so you can see,
> for example, messages sent from WLMail when you access Gmail via the web)?
> If so, do the boxes contain the same labels as you see in Gmail on the
> web?
> 4. You can see all the labels used on the server on the IMAP folders tab.
> You can also choose which ones to show. Do these fit with your
> requirements
>
> That should get you a bit closer to making this work - like your engine
> would have done if you'd put some oil in it.
> --
> Noel
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-15-2009   #8 (permalink)
MHL


 
 

Re: Duplicate Messages from gmail

Yeah, Gmail takes forever to check mail or whatever it does. Another reason
I took it out. Of course its no big deal to me because it is not my primary
account....Good luck!

"Nate" <Nate@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F6EC734B-C406-4D59-B6C9-3B26863D07A8@xxxxxx
Quote:

> So the consensus is I should be using POP except for the suggestion to use
> IMAP.
>
> Does anyone have a link to a web page to walk me thru the correct POP
> settings? (Either at Microsoft or Google.)
>
> Following the suggestion of:
> [Tools >] Accounts > (Gmail account) > Properties > IMAP
>
> Root folder path: (it's blank)
>
> Check for new messages in all folders (not checked)
>
> Store special folders on IMAP server (not checked)
>
> Sometimes when I watch the Send/Receive window, I can see long pauses at
> each folder as it is likely downloading them again and again despite no
> new
> items.
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-15-2009   #9 (permalink)
Nate


 
 

Re: Duplicate Messages from gmail

Previously this was configured as per Microsoft's guidance. However, as you
know, Microsoft is constantly doing "updates" behind the scenes, so at some
point this all stopped working correctly.

To continue with Noel's analogy, as snarky as it is, this would be the
equivalent of taking your car in to have the taillight fixed. Unbeknownst to
you Mirosoft changed the oil with a new type, and tuned the engine to only
use premium gas. Of course you don't find about about this until weeks later
and are confound as to whey something previously working is now a mess.

"MHL" wrote:
Quote:

> Like my car when I bought it, it just worked. I have to change the oil every
> 5k, but that is normal.
>
> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uXDw5kdHKHA.3928@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > "Nate" <Nate@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:E0BD8AD7-1A69-4F0C-BCEE-70C23461FD4F@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >> Windows Live Mail is a bug-ridden mess.
> >>
> >> Every time it downloads messages from gmail accounts, they are always
> >> duplicated in pairs.
> >
> > If your car engine seized up because you never put any oil in it because
> > you couldn't find the oil filler cap, would you blame the car? Many people
> > use IMAP with Gmail with no problems at all. Gmail's way of storing
> > messages is unique, and different from every other IMAP server's way of
> > doing it. The WLMail developers have worked hard to make it possible to
> > use the IMAP protocol with Gmail, so I can only assume that your settings
> > need adjusting. Here are some things to check:
> >
> > 1. At [Tools >] Accounts > (Gmail account) > Properties > IMAP, is the
> > root folder entered as [Gmail]?
> > 2. Is 'Check for new messages in all folders' selected? Try deselecting
> > it.
> > 3. Is 'Store special folders on IMAP server' selected (so you can see,
> > for example, messages sent from WLMail when you access Gmail via the web)?
> > If so, do the boxes contain the same labels as you see in Gmail on the
> > web?
> > 4. You can see all the labels used on the server on the IMAP folders tab.
> > You can also choose which ones to show. Do these fit with your
> > requirements
> >
> > That should get you a bit closer to making this work - like your engine
> > would have done if you'd put some oil in it.
> > --
> > Noel
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-15-2009   #10 (permalink)
Gary VanderMolen


 
 

Re: Duplicate Messages from gmail

Gmail POP setup:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/a...y?answer=86383

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with the speed compared to IMAP.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


"Nate" <Nate@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F6EC734B-C406-4D59-B6C9-3B26863D07A8@xxxxxx
Quote:

> So the consensus is I should be using POP except for the suggestion to use
> IMAP.
>
> Does anyone have a link to a web page to walk me thru the correct POP
> settings? (Either at Microsoft or Google.)
>
> Following the suggestion of:
> [Tools >] Accounts > (Gmail account) > Properties > IMAP
>
> Root folder path: (it's blank)
>
> Check for new messages in all folders (not checked)
>
> Store special folders on IMAP server (not checked)
>
> Sometimes when I watch the Send/Receive window, I can see long pauses at
> each folder as it is likely downloading them again and again despite no new
> items.
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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