Gurus,



It seems that Windows Live Mail is nothing more than Outlook Express with a
different "skin". However, this is my observation after running it for only
a day. Anyone with any similar thoughts?

--
Spin

No way--- Windows Mail fits that description, but Windows Live Mail is a
whole different animal which is (IMHO) a real piece of garbage software
compared to OE or WM. While Windows Live Mail may offer one or two
advantages over OE or WM, it is buggy, erratic, and painfully slow. The
only reason I use it is because of it's compatibility with Hotmail--- for my
Pop3 and usenet accounts, I continue to use OE.

"Spin" <Spin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Gurus,
>
> It seems that Windows Live Mail is nothing more than Outlook Express with
> a different "skin". However, this is my observation after running it for
> only a day. Anyone with any similar thoughts?
>
> --
> Spin

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:50:30 -0400, Spin wrote:

> It seems that Windows Live Mail is nothing more than Outlook Express with a
> different "skin". However, this is my observation after running it for only
> a day. Anyone with any similar thoughts?

Nope. Windows Live Mail somewhat different. Uses "DeltaSync", instead of
"WebDAV" for HTTPMail access. Stores email messages as individual files,
instead of in a proprietary database folder. It can synchronize to Windows
Live Services. Arranges all accounts with separate folder tree (MSOE uses a
common Inbox for all POP3 accounts). Probably more than "somewhat"
different, in the end.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

If your Windows Live Mail is "painfully slow", you're doing something
wrong. It is plenty fast on my modest laptop.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


"John Dose" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O7xfcUaLKHA.4300@xxxxxx

> No way--- Windows Mail fits that description, but Windows Live Mail is a
> whole different animal which is (IMHO) a real piece of garbage software
> compared to OE or WM. While Windows Live Mail may offer one or two
> advantages over OE or WM, it is buggy, erratic, and painfully slow. The
> only reason I use it is because of it's compatibility with Hotmail--- for my
> Pop3 and usenet accounts, I continue to use OE.
>
> "Spin" <Spin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:7gdd5lF2omv7tU1@xxxxxx

>> Gurus,
>>
>> It seems that Windows Live Mail is nothing more than Outlook Express with
>> a different "skin". However, this is my observation after running it for
>> only a day. Anyone with any similar thoughts?
>>
>> --
>> Spin

>
>

Wrong.

"Spin" <Spin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7gdd5lF2omv7tU1@xxxxxx

> Gurus,
>
> It seems that Windows Live Mail is nothing more than Outlook Express with
> a different "skin". However, this is my observation after running it for
> only a day. Anyone with any similar thoughts?
>
> --
> Spin

Nice bit of insight there, MHL. You're probably the IT guy for your company
working on the help desk who nobody likes.

"MHL" <booyakasha at mac dot com> wrote in message
news:0D3AB31A-CBD8-43B9-BE26-1081E6BACD41@xxxxxx

>
> Wrong.
>
> "Spin" <Spin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:7gdd5lF2omv7tU1@xxxxxx

>> Gurus,
>>
>> It seems that Windows Live Mail is nothing more than Outlook Express with
>> a different "skin". However, this is my observation after running it for
>> only a day. Anyone with any similar thoughts?
>>
>> --
>> Spin

>

On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 13:18:56 -0400, Spin wrote:

> "MHL" <booyakasha at mac dot com> wrote in message
> news:0D3AB31A-CBD8-43B9-BE26-1081E6BACD41@xxxxxx

>> "Spin" <Spin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:7gdd5lF2omv7tU1@xxxxxx

>>> Gurus,
>>>
>>> It seems that Windows Live Mail is nothing more than Outlook Express with
>>> a different "skin". However, this is my observation after running it for
>>> only a day. Anyone with any similar thoughts?

>> Wrong.

> Nice bit of insight there, MHL. You're probably the IT guy for your company
> working on the help desk who nobody likes.

The only difference between his response and the others is that he did not
elaborate on why you are wrong. But he is right in that you are wrong!

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

"N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:12eb38uxnzjne.dlg@xxxxxx

> On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 13:18:56 -0400, Spin wrote:
> The only difference between his response and the others is that he did not
> elaborate on why you are wrong. But he is right in that you are wrong!
>
>
> --
> Norman
> ~Oh Lord, why have you come
> ~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

You did provide good insight in your earlier response from 9/4, and I did
not mention that. I am now. That's what I was looking for....great job.

Great it works for you, but it would be interesting to know just WHAT we
doing wrong:-)
WinXP home Sp3, Pentium 4 2.8G with 1.5G RAM, (OK, not the greatest box -
but I have a computer to work for me, not me working for the next more
powerful computer!!) no other prog running:

Start up of WLM 30s! until I see the last selected message in [Inbox] and
can carry on working.
There are 6 Messages max in the [Inbox], none in
[Draft][Sent][Deleted][Junk][Outbox]. All messages cleaned away in [Storage
Folders]

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> If your Windows Live Mail is "painfully slow", you're doing something
> wrong. It is plenty fast on my modest laptop.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen
>
>
> "John Dose" <noone@newsgroup> wrote in message news:O7xfcUaLKHA.4300@newsgroup

> > No way--- Windows Mail fits that description, but Windows Live Mail is a
> > whole different animal which is (IMHO) a real piece of garbage software
> > compared to OE or WM. While Windows Live Mail may offer one or two
> > advantages over OE or WM, it is buggy, erratic, and painfully slow. The
> > only reason I use it is because of it's compatibility with Hotmail--- for my
> > Pop3 and usenet accounts, I continue to use OE.
> >
> > "Spin" <Spin@newsgroup> wrote in message
> > news:7gdd5lF2omv7tU1@newsgroup

> >> Gurus,
> >>
> >> It seems that Windows Live Mail is nothing more than Outlook Express with
> >> a different "skin". However, this is my observation after running it for
> >> only a day. Anyone with any similar thoughts?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Spin

> >
> >

>

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:34:01 -0700, KlausW wrote:

> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

>> "John Dose" <noone@newsgroup> wrote in message news:O7xfcUaLKHA.4300@newsgroup

>>> "Spin" <Spin@newsgroup> wrote in message
>>> news:7gdd5lF2omv7tU1@newsgroup

>>>> It seems that Windows Live Mail is nothing more than Outlook Express with
>>>> a different "skin". However, this is my observation after running it for
>>>> only a day. Anyone with any similar thoughts?

>>> No way--- Windows Mail fits that description, but Windows Live Mail is a
>>> whole different animal which is (IMHO) a real piece of garbage software
>>> compared to OE or WM. While Windows Live Mail may offer one or two
>>> advantages over OE or WM, it is buggy, erratic, and painfully slow. The
>>> only reason I use it is because of it's compatibility with Hotmail--- for my
>>> Pop3 and usenet accounts, I continue to use OE.

>> If your Windows Live Mail is "painfully slow", you're doing something
>> wrong. It is plenty fast on my modest laptop.

> Great it works for you, but it would be interesting to know just WHAT we
> doing wrong:-)
> WinXP home Sp3, Pentium 4 2.8G with 1.5G RAM, (OK, not the greatest box -
> but I have a computer to work for me, not me working for the next more
> powerful computer!!) no other prog running:

Running Windows XP MCE 2005; SP3 (Pentium "D" 3.2 GHz, 4 GB RAM installed,
3.5 GB accessible). Opera 10.00 and 40tude Dialog running (some other stuff
in the background, as well).

> Start up of WLM 30s! until I see the last selected message in [Inbox] and
> can carry on working.

Start up of WLMail 10 seconds to see messages in mailboxes, and can carry on
working. This is with a Windows Live ID sign in enabled (that is optional,
and can be disabled).

> There are 6 Messages max in the [Inbox], none in
> [Draft][Sent][Deleted][Junk][Outbox]. All messages cleaned away in [Storage
> Folders]

I have Quick Views enabled, and at least 100 unread email messages are
listed therein. Most are for an IMAP account on a local (as in on my home
network) server, and have been viewed in another email application.

Whether you are doing something wrong, or not, I can't say. But I am using a
Live ID assigned with a third party domain (my email address for my locally
run server, out in the garage). Only thirty-four contacts. Using a Live ID
sign in means that WLMail initially connects with the Windows Live servers
to synchronize things like the calendar (which I don't use), and contacts.
That may be a time eater, if you use the calendar, with a lot of events/task
reminders, and have a contact list of several hundred email addresses. I
don't know, though; are you using a Windows Live ID to sign in with? Try
disabling it and see if that speeds up the loading.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum