Vista - Printing and Saving Paper in WLM

09-20-2009

I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM only to hit a problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper.
When she receives an email which just spills into another page (Print Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by
cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve this is:-
1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are embedded in the email)
2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No
Print option is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM will create it's own soft returns when the message is sent,
so defeating the forwarding process)
Is there a better option available?
AlanP

09-20-2009

"AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:e9cmhReOKHA.4964@newsgroup

Quote:

> I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM only to hit a
> problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper.
> When she receives an email which just spills into another page (Print
> Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by
> cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve
> this is:-
> 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are
> embedded in the email)
> 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word
> and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No
> Print option is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM
> will create it's own soft returns when the message is sent,
> so defeating the forwarding process)
> Is there a better option available?
> AlanP

Err yes. Why is she printing emails in the first place? Electronic storage
is FAR far superior to paper...

09-20-2009

She prints correspondence which is presented back to a Committee where she is the Secretary.

"Gordon" <gordonbparker@newsgroup> wrote in message news:OIHM3aeOKHA.3192@newsgroup

"AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:e9cmhReOKHA.4964@newsgroup

Quote:

> I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM only to hit a
> problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper.
> When she receives an email which just spills into another page (Print
> Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by
> cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve
> this is:-
> 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are
> embedded in the email)
> 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word
> and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No
> Print option is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM
> will create it's own soft returns when the message is sent,
> so defeating the forwarding process)
> Is there a better option available?
> AlanP

Err yes. Why is she printing emails in the first place? Electronic storage
is FAR far superior to paper...

09-20-2009

"AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:e9cmhReOKHA.4964@newsgroup

Quote:

>I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM only to hit a
>problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper.
> When she receives an email which just spills into another page (Print
> Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by
> cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve
> this is:-
> 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are
> embedded in the email)
> 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word
> and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No
> Print option is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM
> will create it's own soft returns when the message is sent,
> so defeating the forwarding process)
> Is there a better option available?
> AlanP

It is possible to reduce the printed text size output from WM, since it uses
the IE print engine, you need to open Internet Explorer>View menu>text size.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK.
http://www.getsafeonline.org/

09-22-2009

Thanks Steve, this reduces some of the soft returns but creates another problem in that the printed emails are too small in font for
the Committee to read (50+ age group). It also does not get rid of hard returns, which is what my wife wants to do.
If WLM can't provide the same functionality as Outlook, is there another PC based package that can?

" mac" <macknever@newsgroup> wrote in message news:55407C26-A53D-4BC8-8628-2E74F9C82563@newsgroup

"AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:e9cmhReOKHA.4964@newsgroup

Quote:

>I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM only to hit a
>problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper.
> When she receives an email which just spills into another page (Print
> Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by
> cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve
> this is:-
> 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are
> embedded in the email)
> 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word
> and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No
> Print option is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM
> will create it's own soft returns when the message is sent,
> so defeating the forwarding process)
> Is there a better option available?
> AlanP

It is possible to reduce the printed text size output from WM, since it uses
the IE print engine, you need to open Internet Explorer>View menu>text size.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK.
http://www.getsafeonline.org/

09-22-2009

"AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:OybGW42OKHA.4692@newsgroup

Quote:

> Thanks Steve, this reduces some of the soft returns but creates another
> problem in that the printed emails are too small in font for
> the Committee to read (50+ age group). It also does not get rid of hard
> returns, which is what my wife wants to do.
> If WLM can't provide the same functionality as Outlook, is there another
> PC based package that can?

Your terminology confuses me, what would you define as Hard & Soft returns?

If you mean graphics etc? Try viewing and then printing the mail in Plain
text, tools>options>read tab.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK.
http://www.getsafeonline.org/

09-22-2009

A hard return is when someone has deliberately generated a new line by pressing the return/Enter key
A soft return is when the program places a return because it hits either a self imposed limit of say 80 characters (changeable in
tools, options, send, Mail Sending format, Plain Text Settings) or the view text setting is set so that the opened window
automatically wraps the text)

I have already set the plain text limit to WLM maximum of 132 characters - It's the hard returns that the originator of the email
placed for readability that my wife wishes to eliminate.

" mac" <macknever@newsgroup> wrote in message news:2AE11F6A-96A8-45E4-A738-D3DD5B27DFCC@newsgroup

"AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:OybGW42OKHA.4692@newsgroup

Quote:

> Thanks Steve, this reduces some of the soft returns but creates another
> problem in that the printed emails are too small in font for
> the Committee to read (50+ age group). It also does not get rid of hard
> returns, which is what my wife wants to do.
> If WLM can't provide the same functionality as Outlook, is there another
> PC based package that can?

Your terminology confuses me, what would you define as Hard & Soft returns?

If you mean graphics etc? Try viewing and then printing the mail in Plain
text, tools>options>read tab.

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK.
http://www.getsafeonline.org/

09-22-2009

"AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message news:e9cmhReOKHA.4964@newsgroup

Quote:

> I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM
> only to hit a problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper.
> When she receives an email which just spills into another page
> (Print Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by
> cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve this is:-
> 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are embedded in the email)
> 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word
> and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No Print option
> is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM will create
> it's own soft returns when the message is sent, so defeating the forwarding process)

Quote:

> Is there a better option available?

Is this HTML? Look at the source. E.g. press Ctrl-F3 or Ctrl-F2.
Capture and print that. Optionally remove the HTML tags. <eg>

Oh. You have Word? Why are you using Forward? Just use Ctrl-a, Ctrl-c
switch to Word and paste with Ctrl-v. You could probably even find some
macros which would reformat the HTML for you... ; )

Or see what happens if instead of using Forward (e.g. Ctrl-f)
you use Forward as Attachment (Menu,w). Then the attachment
may be draggable to Word. Does that do anything useful?
FWIW I don't have Word installed in this partition but I just proved
that I could do what I imagined using WordPad and make use of its
options. ; )

A Word NG might be a better place to follow up to with these ideas.

Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
---

09-22-2009

"AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:uh$I5X6OKHA.1232@newsgroup

Quote:

>A hard return is when someone has deliberately generated a new line by
>pressing the return/Enter key
> A soft return is when the program places a return because it hits either a
> self imposed limit of say 80 characters (changeable in
> tools, options, send, Mail Sending format, Plain Text Settings) or the
> view text setting is set so that the opened window
> automatically wraps the text)
>
> I have already set the plain text limit to WLM maximum of 132 characters -
> It's the hard returns that the originator of the email
> placed for readability that my wife wishes to eliminate.

OK on the terminology, thanks, never gave that a thought, or ever
encountered it being used.

Has your wife tried doing a Reply to the message, With "reply in the same
format" etc disabled, @ tools options>send tab, then using Ctrl+S, which
will save the message to the Drafts folder.

From the Drafts folder, double click the saved message>edit it to her hearts
content>Ctrl+S>Print.

This method will add "your" sender default email account details to the
print out, but does it do what she requires?

If not, then have fun with Sir Roberts reply :-)

He is an Icon to keyboard shortcuts.

I love him :-))

--
Regards Steve.
MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK.
http://www.getsafeonline.org/

09-22-2009

Me too..
I read every single post of 'Sir Robert's', I usually learn something new each time..

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

" mac" <macknever@newsgroup> wrote in message news:1E81EA61-4D5B-4E63-AFA9-5944D1C9B1A8@newsgroup

Quote:

> If not, then have fun with Sir Roberts reply :-)
>
> He is an Icon to keyboard shortcuts.
>
> I love him :-))
>
>
> --
> Regards Steve.
> MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK.
> http://www.getsafeonline.org/
>

09-20-2009	#1 (permalink)
AlanP n/a posts	Printing and Saving Paper in WLM I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM only to hit a problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper. When she receives an email which just spills into another page (Print Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve this is:- 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are embedded in the email) 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No Print option is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM will create it's own soft returns when the message is sent, so defeating the forwarding process) Is there a better option available? AlanP
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09-20-2009	#2 (permalink)
Gordon n/a posts	Re: Printing and Saving Paper in WLM "AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message news:e9cmhReOKHA.4964@newsgroup Quote: > I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM only to hit a > problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper. > When she receives an email which just spills into another page (Print > Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by > cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve > this is:- > 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are > embedded in the email) > 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word > and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No > Print option is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM > will create it's own soft returns when the message is sent, > so defeating the forwarding process) > Is there a better option available? > AlanP Err yes. Why is she printing emails in the first place? Electronic storage is FAR far superior to paper...
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09-20-2009	#3 (permalink)
AlanP n/a posts	Re: Printing and Saving Paper in WLM She prints correspondence which is presented back to a Committee where she is the Secretary. "Gordon" <gordonbparker@newsgroup> wrote in message news:OIHM3aeOKHA.3192@newsgroup "AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message news:e9cmhReOKHA.4964@newsgroup Quote: > I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM only to hit a > problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper. > When she receives an email which just spills into another page (Print > Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by > cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve > this is:- > 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are > embedded in the email) > 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word > and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No > Print option is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM > will create it's own soft returns when the message is sent, > so defeating the forwarding process) > Is there a better option available? > AlanP Err yes. Why is she printing emails in the first place? Electronic storage is FAR far superior to paper...
My System Specs

09-20-2009	#4 (permalink)
mac n/a posts	Re: Printing and Saving Paper in WLM "AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message news:e9cmhReOKHA.4964@newsgroup Quote: >I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM only to hit a >problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper. > When she receives an email which just spills into another page (Print > Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by > cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve > this is:- > 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are > embedded in the email) > 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word > and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No > Print option is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM > will create it's own soft returns when the message is sent, > so defeating the forwarding process) > Is there a better option available? > AlanP It is possible to reduce the printed text size output from WM, since it uses the IE print engine, you need to open Internet Explorer>View menu>text size. -- Regards Steve. MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK. http://www.getsafeonline.org/
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09-22-2009	#5 (permalink)
AlanP n/a posts	Re: Printing and Saving Paper in WLM Thanks Steve, this reduces some of the soft returns but creates another problem in that the printed emails are too small in font for the Committee to read (50+ age group). It also does not get rid of hard returns, which is what my wife wants to do. If WLM can't provide the same functionality as Outlook, is there another PC based package that can? " mac" <macknever@newsgroup> wrote in message news:55407C26-A53D-4BC8-8628-2E74F9C82563@newsgroup "AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message news:e9cmhReOKHA.4964@newsgroup Quote: >I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM only to hit a >problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper. > When she receives an email which just spills into another page (Print > Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by > cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve > this is:- > 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are > embedded in the email) > 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word > and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No > Print option is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM > will create it's own soft returns when the message is sent, > so defeating the forwarding process) > Is there a better option available? > AlanP It is possible to reduce the printed text size output from WM, since it uses the IE print engine, you need to open Internet Explorer>View menu>text size. -- Regards Steve. MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK. http://www.getsafeonline.org/
My System Specs

09-22-2009	#6 (permalink)
mac n/a posts	Re: Printing and Saving Paper in WLM "AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message news:OybGW42OKHA.4692@newsgroup Quote: > Thanks Steve, this reduces some of the soft returns but creates another > problem in that the printed emails are too small in font for > the Committee to read (50+ age group). It also does not get rid of hard > returns, which is what my wife wants to do. > If WLM can't provide the same functionality as Outlook, is there another > PC based package that can? Your terminology confuses me, what would you define as Hard & Soft returns? If you mean graphics etc? Try viewing and then printing the mail in Plain text, tools>options>read tab. -- Regards Steve. MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK. http://www.getsafeonline.org/
My System Specs

09-22-2009	#7 (permalink)
AlanP n/a posts	Re: Printing and Saving Paper in WLM A hard return is when someone has deliberately generated a new line by pressing the return/Enter key A soft return is when the program places a return because it hits either a self imposed limit of say 80 characters (changeable in tools, options, send, Mail Sending format, Plain Text Settings) or the view text setting is set so that the opened window automatically wraps the text) I have already set the plain text limit to WLM maximum of 132 characters - It's the hard returns that the originator of the email placed for readability that my wife wishes to eliminate. " mac" <macknever@newsgroup> wrote in message news:2AE11F6A-96A8-45E4-A738-D3DD5B27DFCC@newsgroup "AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message news:OybGW42OKHA.4692@newsgroup Quote: > Thanks Steve, this reduces some of the soft returns but creates another > problem in that the printed emails are too small in font for > the Committee to read (50+ age group). It also does not get rid of hard > returns, which is what my wife wants to do. > If WLM can't provide the same functionality as Outlook, is there another > PC based package that can? Your terminology confuses me, what would you define as Hard & Soft returns? If you mean graphics etc? Try viewing and then printing the mail in Plain text, tools>options>read tab. -- Regards Steve. MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK. http://www.getsafeonline.org/
My System Specs

09-22-2009	#8 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle n/a posts	Re: Printing and Saving Paper in WLM "AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message news:e9cmhReOKHA.4964@newsgroup Quote: > I have recently switched my wife over from Outlook to WLM > only to hit a problem with a process she uses to save wasting paper. > When she receives an email which just spills into another page > (Print Preview), she edits the incoming message to reduce lines by > cutting out unnecessary spaces. The only way that I have found to achieve this is:- > 1) Reduce text sixe in View Menu (Doesn't help if soft returns are embedded in the email) > 2) Click on Forward and copy out the message body contents into Word > and subsequently edit the pages down prior to printing (No Print option > is available until after the message is forwarded and WLM will create > it's own soft returns when the message is sent, so defeating the forwarding process) Quote: > Is there a better option available? Is this HTML? Look at the source. E.g. press Ctrl-F3 or Ctrl-F2. Capture and print that. Optionally remove the HTML tags. <eg> Oh. You have Word? Why are you using Forward? Just use Ctrl-a, Ctrl-c switch to Word and paste with Ctrl-v. You could probably even find some macros which would reformat the HTML for you... ; ) Or see what happens if instead of using Forward (e.g. Ctrl-f) you use Forward as Attachment (Menu,w). Then the attachment may be draggable to Word. Does that do anything useful? FWIW I don't have Word installed in this partition but I just proved that I could do what I imagined using WordPad and make use of its options. ; ) A Word NG might be a better place to follow up to with these ideas. Good luck Robert Aldwinckle ---
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09-22-2009	#9 (permalink)
mac n/a posts	Re: Printing and Saving Paper in WLM "AlanP" <alanpereira@newsgroup> wrote in message news:uh$I5X6OKHA.1232@newsgroup Quote: >A hard return is when someone has deliberately generated a new line by >pressing the return/Enter key > A soft return is when the program places a return because it hits either a > self imposed limit of say 80 characters (changeable in > tools, options, send, Mail Sending format, Plain Text Settings) or the > view text setting is set so that the opened window > automatically wraps the text) > > I have already set the plain text limit to WLM maximum of 132 characters - > It's the hard returns that the originator of the email > placed for readability that my wife wishes to eliminate. OK on the terminology, thanks, never gave that a thought, or ever encountered it being used. Has your wife tried doing a Reply to the message, With "reply in the same format" etc disabled, @ tools options>send tab, then using Ctrl+S, which will save the message to the Drafts folder. From the Drafts folder, double click the saved message>edit it to her hearts content>Ctrl+S>Print. This method will add "your" sender default email account details to the print out, but does it do what she requires? If not, then have fun with Sir Roberts reply :-) He is an Icon to keyboard shortcuts. I love him :-)) -- Regards Steve. MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK. http://www.getsafeonline.org/
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09-22-2009	#10 (permalink)
...winston n/a posts	Re: Printing and Saving Paper in WLM Me too.. I read every single post of 'Sir Robert's', I usually learn something new each time.. -- ...winston ms-mvp mail " mac" <macknever@newsgroup> wrote in message news:1E81EA61-4D5B-4E63-AFA9-5944D1C9B1A8@newsgroup Quote: > If not, then have fun with Sir Roberts reply :-) > > He is an Icon to keyboard shortcuts. > > I love him :-)) > > > -- > Regards Steve. > MS-MVP. MAIL. [DTS] UK. > http://www.getsafeonline.org/ >
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