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| | Recovered Folders? Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Muppets etc. Got a couple of questions. When WLM falls over, which it does horribly frequently, it seems to generate a 'Recovered Items Folder' which seems to contain a variety of other folders containing stuff. What is one supposed to do with them and/or their contents? I've been hanging onto mine in the hopes that the 'compaction' or 'indexing' will return the recovered? contents whence they came, wherever that might be. Now however the number is becoming unmanageable and I'm contemplating deleting them, or maybe running the 'rules' over them and then deleting them. This gets to the second question. If they contain massages that were in limbo when WLM went mammeries skywards, will they become duplicates when 'ruled' as I have suggested, and if so how can these duplicates be removed? And finally, can WLM be exported (back) into OE6? -- Geoff ExploitEd -- Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could remember the darn question |
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| | Re: Recovered Folders? There are very few posts with Recovered Items folder or crash problems. How often do you close WLMail? Do you close WLMail and then shutdown your computer? Are you scanning email with an anti-virus? I get recovered items so seldom that I don't pay much attention to them. You can drag WLMail messages from the WLMail message store to an open OE folder. You can't export. -- Ron Sommer MVP-Mail "GbH" <Geoff_Hannington@newsgroup> wrote in message news:euAf1WWPKHA.5032@newsgroup Quote: > Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Muppets etc. > > Got a couple of questions. > When WLM falls over, which it does horribly frequently, it seems to > generate a 'Recovered Items Folder' which seems to contain a variety of > other folders containing stuff. What is one supposed to do with them > and/or their contents? I've been hanging onto mine in the hopes that the > 'compaction' or 'indexing' will return the recovered? contents whence they > came, wherever that might be. Now however the number is becoming > unmanageable and I'm contemplating deleting them, or maybe running the > 'rules' over them and then deleting them. This gets to the second > question. If they contain massages that were in limbo when WLM went > mammeries skywards, will they become duplicates when 'ruled' as I have > suggested, and if so how can these duplicates be removed? > And finally, can WLM be exported (back) into OE6? > > -- > > Geoff > ExploitEd > -- > > Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could remember > the darn question > |
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| | Re: Recovered Folders? I rarely see WLM generating items for the Recovered items folder..when I do, it is usually my fault. I've also rarely found anything in that folder that needs saving or archiving that didn't exist or was available elsewhere, thus deletion of the subfolders below Recovered items root folder is my usual approach. No, WLM can not be exported into OE. OE development ceased long ago, thus nor does OE include the ability to import from WLM's message store. Messages saved as *.eml files(dragged out of WLM or exported using WLM/File/Export/Message to an Explorer folder) can be dragged back into OE. -- ...winston ms-mvp mail "GbH" <Geoff_Hannington@newsgroup> wrote in message news:euAf1WWPKHA.5032@newsgroup Quote: > Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Muppets etc. > > Got a couple of questions. > When WLM falls over, which it does horribly frequently, it seems to generate a 'Recovered Items Folder' which seems to contain a > variety of other folders containing stuff. What is one supposed to do with them and/or their contents? I've been hanging onto > mine in the hopes that the 'compaction' or 'indexing' will return the recovered? contents whence they came, wherever that might > be. Now however the number is becoming unmanageable and I'm contemplating deleting them, or maybe running the 'rules' over them > and then deleting them. This gets to the second question. If they contain massages that were in limbo when WLM went mammeries > skywards, will they become duplicates when 'ruled' as I have suggested, and if so how can these duplicates be removed? > And finally, can WLM be exported (back) into OE6? > > -- > > Geoff > ExploitEd > -- > > Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could remember the darn question > |
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| | Re: Recovered Folders? You can drag messages from the WLMail store to an open OE folder. The unique eml file name makes it hard to know which email you are moving. In this case, use the eml file date. Only drag files dated after the WLMail install. -- Ron Sommer MVP-Mail "...winston" <winstonmvp@newsgroup> wrote in message news:#UvcFgbPKHA.4208@newsgroup Quote: > I rarely see WLM generating items for the Recovered items folder..when I > do, it is usually my fault. > I've also rarely found anything in that folder that needs saving or > archiving that didn't exist or was available elsewhere, thus deletion of > the subfolders below Recovered items root folder is my usual approach. > > > No, WLM can not be exported into OE. > OE development ceased long ago, thus nor does OE include the ability to > import from WLM's message store. > > Messages saved as *.eml files(dragged out of WLM or exported using > WLM/File/Export/Message to an Explorer folder) can be dragged back into > OE. > > > -- > ...winston > ms-mvp mail > > "GbH" <Geoff_Hannington@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:euAf1WWPKHA.5032@newsgroup Quote: >> Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Muppets etc. >> >> Got a couple of questions. >> When WLM falls over, which it does horribly frequently, it seems to >> generate a 'Recovered Items Folder' which seems to contain a variety of >> other folders containing stuff. What is one supposed to do with them >> and/or their contents? I've been hanging onto mine in the hopes that the >> 'compaction' or 'indexing' will return the recovered? contents whence >> they came, wherever that might be. Now however the number is becoming >> unmanageable and I'm contemplating deleting them, or maybe running the >> 'rules' over them and then deleting them. This gets to the second >> question. If they contain massages that were in limbo when WLM went >> mammeries skywards, will they become duplicates when 'ruled' as I have >> suggested, and if so how can these duplicates be removed? >> And finally, can WLM be exported (back) into OE6? >> >> -- >> >> Geoff >> ExploitEd >> -- >> >> Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could >> remember the darn question >> |
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| | Re: Recovered Folders? "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@newsgroup> wrote in message news:el8QFAYPKHA.764@newsgroup Quote: > There are very few posts with Recovered Items folder or crash > problems. > How often do you close WLMail? WLM seems quite capable of falling over all on its own, Most noticeably when changing between mail and news. Quote: > Do you close WLMail and then shutdown your computer? Quote: > Are you scanning email with an anti-virus? parts, effectively uninstall/reinstall. Quote: > I get recovered items so seldom that I don't pay much attention to > them. Quote: > You can drag WLMail messages from the WLMail message store to an open > OE folder. You can't export. exercise! Can OE Import a pile of .eml files at one time? Quote: > -- > Ron Sommer > MVP-Mail > > "GbH" <Geoff_Hannington@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:euAf1WWPKHA.5032@newsgroup Quote: >> Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Muppets etc. >> >> Got a couple of questions. >> When WLM falls over, which it does horribly frequently, it seems to >> generate a 'Recovered Items Folder' which seems to contain a variety >> of other folders containing stuff. What is one supposed to do with >> them and/or their contents? I've been hanging onto mine in the hopes >> that the 'compaction' or 'indexing' will return the recovered? >> contents whence they came, wherever that might be. Now however the >> number is becoming unmanageable and I'm contemplating deleting them, >> or maybe running the 'rules' over them and then deleting them. This >> gets to the second question. If they contain massages that were in >> limbo when WLM went mammeries skywards, will they become duplicates >> when 'ruled' as I have suggested, and if so how can these duplicates >> be removed? >> And finally, can WLM be exported (back) into OE6? >> >> -- >> >> Geoff >> ExploitEd >> -- >> >> Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could >> remember the darn question >> -- Geoff ExploitEd -- Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could remember the darn question |
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| | Re: Recovered Folders? Use OE for your newsgroups and let WLMail continue doing email. There are several people who use OE for newsgroups. I don't think that OE can import eml files. Highlight one message, Ctrl + A, drag and drop. -- Ron Sommer MS MVP-Mail "GbH" <Geoff_Hannington@newsgroup> wrote in message news:OJO0KfePKHA.1876@newsgroup Quote: > > "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:el8QFAYPKHA.764@newsgroup Quote: >> There are very few posts with Recovered Items folder or crash problems. >> How often do you close WLMail? > Generally, intentionally only once a day. > WLM seems quite capable of falling over all on its own, Most noticeably > when changing between mail and news. > Quote: >> Do you close WLMail and then shutdown your computer? > Yes. > Quote: >> Are you scanning email with an anti-virus? > Most certainly not. Avast has been reconfigured without its the mail > parts, effectively uninstall/reinstall. > Quote: >> I get recovered items so seldom that I don't pay much attention to them. > > Quote: >> You can drag WLMail messages from the WLMail message store to an open OE >> folder. You can't export. > I was afraid that was going to be the answer. That might be a lengthy > exercise! > Can OE Import a pile of .eml files at one time? > > Quote: >> -- >> Ron Sommer >> MVP-Mail >> >> "GbH" <Geoff_Hannington@newsgroup> wrote in message >> news:euAf1WWPKHA.5032@newsgroup Quote: >>> Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Muppets etc. >>> >>> Got a couple of questions. >>> When WLM falls over, which it does horribly frequently, it seems to >>> generate a 'Recovered Items Folder' which seems to contain a variety of >>> other folders containing stuff. What is one supposed to do with them >>> and/or their contents? I've been hanging onto mine in the hopes that the >>> 'compaction' or 'indexing' will return the recovered? contents whence >>> they came, wherever that might be. Now however the number is becoming >>> unmanageable and I'm contemplating deleting them, or maybe running the >>> 'rules' over them and then deleting them. This gets to the second >>> question. If they contain massages that were in limbo when WLM went >>> mammeries skywards, will they become duplicates when 'ruled' as I have >>> suggested, and if so how can these duplicates be removed? >>> And finally, can WLM be exported (back) into OE6? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Geoff >>> ExploitEd >>> -- >>> >>> Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could >>> remember the darn question >>> > > -- > > Geoff > ExploitEd > -- > > Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could remember > the darn question > |
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| | Re: Recovered Folders? Yes, especially in XP since the Subject header is not available. -- ...winston ms-mvp mail "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@newsgroup> wrote in message news:%23%23jjF%23cPKHA.1280@newsgroup You can drag messages from the WLMail store to an open OE folder. The unique eml file name makes it hard to know which email you are moving. In this case, use the eml file date. Only drag files dated after the WLMail install. -- Ron Sommer MVP-Mail "...winston" <winstonmvp@newsgroup> wrote in message news:#UvcFgbPKHA.4208@newsgroup Quote: > I rarely see WLM generating items for the Recovered items folder..when I > do, it is usually my fault. > I've also rarely found anything in that folder that needs saving or > archiving that didn't exist or was available elsewhere, thus deletion of > the subfolders below Recovered items root folder is my usual approach. > > > No, WLM can not be exported into OE. > OE development ceased long ago, thus nor does OE include the ability to > import from WLM's message store. > > Messages saved as *.eml files(dragged out of WLM or exported using > WLM/File/Export/Message to an Explorer folder) can be dragged back into > OE. > > > -- > ...winston > ms-mvp mail > > "GbH" <Geoff_Hannington@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:euAf1WWPKHA.5032@newsgroup Quote: >> Good Evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Muppets etc. >> >> Got a couple of questions. >> When WLM falls over, which it does horribly frequently, it seems to >> generate a 'Recovered Items Folder' which seems to contain a variety of >> other folders containing stuff. What is one supposed to do with them >> and/or their contents? I've been hanging onto mine in the hopes that the >> 'compaction' or 'indexing' will return the recovered? contents whence >> they came, wherever that might be. Now however the number is becoming >> unmanageable and I'm contemplating deleting them, or maybe running the >> 'rules' over them and then deleting them. This gets to the second >> question. If they contain massages that were in limbo when WLM went >> mammeries skywards, will they become duplicates when 'ruled' as I have >> suggested, and if so how can these duplicates be removed? >> And finally, can WLM be exported (back) into OE6? >> >> -- >> >> Geoff >> ExploitEd >> -- >> >> Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could >> remember the darn question >> |
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| | Re: Recovered Folders? "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@newsgroup> wrote in message news:OAkUokgPKHA.4244@newsgroup Quote: > Use OE for your newsgroups and let WLMail continue doing email. > There are several people who use OE for newsgroups. down to a newsgroup! The poor old massage store couldn't cope with its size, it was/is a big sucker! Kept falling over, when I found WLM had a more robust massage store I hung out the flags and jumped ship. I think? those crashes are not present in WLM, BICBW, WLM however, has its own crop of problems, which do not seem to be being addressed. It seems these difficulties are down to what can only be described as a massive NIH syndrome. Those excellent parts of OE that functioned well were abandoned and rewritten it seems just because they were part of OE. The axiom, threw the baby out with the bath water comes to mind! This behaviour is common in an inexperienced development management organisation, unfortunately such organisations rarely 'grow out of it', consequently it is unlikely WLM will ever get developed to the state of a fixed OE. Oh, it'll have fancy bells and whistles and other fun things, like an insipid display and cloud cuckoo land capability. BUT IT WILL NEVER PERFORM THE TASK REQUIRED. Doing that is no fun! Of a consequence I think I will migrate back to OE for my mail, which seemed to work just fine and use WLM for UseNet, where it seems to function adequately, who knows without the mail overhead it might just work OK. I have a package I purchased a while back that identifies duplicates in OE and can eliminate them if requested. If drag n dropping my saved email back from this CoS produces duplication I can at least address it. Rules function correctly (ie manually) in OE so I can organise myself again! Geoff ExploitEd -- Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could remember the darn question |
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| | Re: Recovered Folders? "GbH" <Geoff_Hannington@newsgroup> wrote in message news:eGMHAM2PKHA.1372@newsgroup Quote: > > "Ron Sommer" <rsommer@newsgroup> wrote in message > news:OAkUokgPKHA.4244@newsgroup Quote: >> Use OE for your newsgroups and let WLMail continue doing email. >> There are several people who use OE for newsgroups. > I think the major difficulty I had with OE before migrating to WLM was > down to a newsgroup! The poor old massage store couldn't cope with its > size, it was/is a big sucker! Kept falling over, when I found WLM had > a more robust massage store I hung out the flags and jumped ship. I > think? those crashes are not present in WLM, BICBW, WLM however, has > its own crop of problems, which do not seem to be being addressed. It > seems these difficulties are down to what can only be described as a > massive NIH syndrome. Those excellent parts of OE that functioned well > were abandoned and rewritten it seems just because they were part of > OE. The axiom, threw the baby out with the bath water comes to mind! > This behaviour is common in an inexperienced development management > organisation, unfortunately such organisations rarely 'grow out of > it', consequently it is unlikely WLM will ever get developed to the > state of a fixed OE. Oh, it'll have fancy bells and whistles and other > fun things, like an insipid display and cloud cuckoo land capability. > BUT IT WILL NEVER PERFORM THE TASK REQUIRED. Doing that is no fun! > > Of a consequence I think I will migrate back to OE for my mail, which > seemed to work just fine and use WLM for UseNet, where it seems to > function adequately, who knows without the mail overhead it might just > work OK. > I have a package I purchased a while back that identifies duplicates > in OE and can eliminate them if requested. If drag n dropping my saved > email back from this CoS produces duplication I can at least address > it. Rules function correctly (ie manually) in OE so I can organise > myself again! Sorry to disappoint, if you read it again, you'll see I'm only going to OE for mail!!!!! I shall continue to monitor here in the somewhat vain hope it, WLM, gets fixed or the NG is renamed HOTMAIL! -- Geoff ExploitEd -- Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I wish I could remember the darn question |
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| | Re: Recovered Folders? Hotmail doesn't have a newsgroup. It never did have a fully sanctioned 'named' group...though some overlap has always occurred well before this newsgroup for Windows Live Mail existed in the public.msn.discussion and public.internet.mail newsgroups. WLM is a desktop client. Hotmail is the web interface for accessing the services provided with any Live ID. Hotmail questions/answers/solutions are found here: http://windowslivehelp.com/ It is unlikely that this group will be renamed Hotmail...thus continuing to monitor this group for that change will most likely be in vain. -- ...winston ms-mvp mail "GbH" <Geoff_Hannington@newsgroup> wrote in message news:uF#KuB6PKHA.1796@newsgroup Quote: > I shall continue to monitor here in the somewhat vain hope it, WLM, gets fixed or the NG is renamed HOTMAIL! |
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