cam / mic question

05-11-2008

Hi,

I'm having an old computer (compaq 500Mhz, 382mb) and the only things
running are Xp, WLM 8.1 and mcAfee. Together with a Logitec 3000 pro
(usb1) cam. Up&p is enabled in modem.

Thing is that when i use the mic on the webcam during videochat, the sound
is quiet clear. however when i use the mic. from the headset, the sound is
nearly not hearable for the other party. Increase all the volume options for
the mic, gave no better result. Just want to know, is this a knowned issue?

One more thing: if both parties enabled Up&p, is it possible to "see" if
there is a direct connection between the computers? (Thus, no relay-server
in between?)
Somtimes the sound is deleyed or repeated, so i just like to know for sure
if there is a direct connection or not.

Thanks for the reply in advance.

heian

05-12-2008

Greetings,

Amusingly usually it's the other way around (people complaining about the quality of the cam
mic). What kind of headset are we talking about here? There's no "known issue" here for
anything like what you're describing.

Although you can check your UPnP status by pressing the Alt key on the keyboard to bring up
the menu bar, choosing Tools, then Options, then Connection (and waiting for it to populate
the data), that won't tell you if it's actually being used in a call. If a relay is being
used, typically you'll see a message in the top of the conversation window telling you that
the quality has been reduced.

However, to be 100% sure you'll have to use tcpview, netstat, or a packet sniffering
application and look for your contact's IP.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--

"heian" <siamlover@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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	Quote:
	> Hi, > > I'm having an old computer (compaq 500Mhz, 382mb) and the only things running are Xp, WLM > 8.1 and mcAfee. Together with a Logitec 3000 pro > (usb1) cam. Up&p is enabled in modem. > > Thing is that when i use the mic on the webcam during videochat, the sound is quiet clear. > however when i use the mic. from the headset, the sound is nearly not hearable for the > other party. Increase all the volume options for the mic, gave no better result. Just want > to know, is this a knowned issue? > > One more thing: if both parties enabled Up&p, is it possible to "see" if there is a direct > connection between the computers? (Thus, no relay-server in between?) > Somtimes the sound is deleyed or repeated, so i just like to know for sure if there is a > direct connection or not. > > Thanks for the reply in advance. > > heian > > >

05-12-2008

Hi again,

Thanks for the (always) great replies Jonathan !

I think i got an interesting point, didn't find it on any forum yet......

On a 1,7 Mhz computer, with a PCI USB 2.0 card, i connected two webcams at
the same time.
One webcam (logitech 3000 pro usb 1 and the other Logitech quickcam
messenger usb 2 )

what i noticed that in a chat, with the same person, the sound from the usb1
webcam was very poor. (some words just lost in space)
Connecting a few seconds later with the usb2 webcam, the sound was very
clear !

Repeated this several times, but the result was all the times the same.

""" Funny""" thing is that the usb1 Cam connected to a USB 1 connector on
an old
pc (500 Mhz) is working very well. video and audio.

The webcams both working fine now, i want to find out more about it, but
my contacts getting tired of the testing hehe

I experienced here that the mic. of the cam is working better then the
headset mic, which is
just a cheap $6,00 headset with the green and pink plugs.

I got the program you mentioned to check to which ip i'm connected.
Both of us were connected via Up&p according WLM, but it seems that
i wasn't directly connected to my friends ip.
Still something left to find out why ;-))

Just post my experience here, maybe it can be usefull for others.......

heian

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@xxxxxx> schreef in bericht
news:04E953C7-BD18-4351-B5C1-9ECE8AAC5C5D@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Greetings,
>
> Amusingly usually it's the other way around (people complaining about the
> quality of the cam mic). What kind of headset are we talking about here?
> There's no "known issue" here for anything like what you're describing.
>
> Although you can check your UPnP status by pressing the Alt key on the
> keyboard to bring up the menu bar, choosing Tools, then Options, then
> Connection (and waiting for it to populate the data), that won't tell you
> if it's actually being used in a call. If a relay is being used,
> typically you'll see a message in the top of the conversation window
> telling you that the quality has been reduced.
>
> However, to be 100% sure you'll have to use tcpview, netstat, or a packet
> sniffering application and look for your contact's IP.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature
> or citation
> --
>
>
> "heian" <siamlover@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:48275c69$0$6014$ba620dc5@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>> Hi, >> >> I'm having an old computer (compaq 500Mhz, 382mb) and the only things >> running are Xp, WLM 8.1 and mcAfee. Together with a Logitec 3000 pro >> (usb1) cam. Up&p is enabled in modem. >> >> Thing is that when i use the mic on the webcam during videochat, the >> sound is quiet clear. however when i use the mic. from the headset, the >> sound is nearly not hearable for the other party. Increase all the volume >> options for the mic, gave no better result. Just want to know, is this a >> knowned issue? >> >> One more thing: if both parties enabled Up&p, is it possible to "see" if >> there is a direct connection between the computers? (Thus, no >> relay-server in between?) >> Somtimes the sound is deleyed or repeated, so i just like to know for >> sure if there is a direct connection or not. >> >> Thanks for the reply in advance. >> >> heian >> >> >>

>

05-13-2008

Hi,

Well, in fairness, audio & video together will probably use up all the standard bandwidth
allotted on USB1 controller. For instance, I've used USB speakers and a USB webcam (two
separate devices) for quite a long time, and prior to USB2, I had to keep both of them on
separate USB controllers or they would just not work properly (due to bandwidth constraints).

Maybe on your old PC, you had less things on a particular USB controller than now? Mice,
keyboards, etc. all use bandwidth too...

Anyway, just thinking aloud.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--

"heian" <Siam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4828c147$0$6006$ba620dc5@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Hi again,
>
> Thanks for the (always) great replies Jonathan !
>
> I think i got an interesting point, didn't find it on any forum yet......
>
> On a 1,7 Mhz computer, with a PCI USB 2.0 card, i connected two webcams at the same time.
> One webcam (logitech 3000 pro usb 1 and the other Logitech quickcam messenger usb 2 )
>
> what i noticed that in a chat, with the same person, the sound from the usb1 webcam was
> very poor. (some words just lost in space)
> Connecting a few seconds later with the usb2 webcam, the sound was very clear !
>
> Repeated this several times, but the result was all the times the same.
>
>
> """ Funny""" thing is that the usb1 Cam connected to a USB 1 connector on an old
> pc (500 Mhz) is working very well. video and audio.
>
> The webcams both working fine now, i want to find out more about it, but
> my contacts getting tired of the testing hehe
>
> I experienced here that the mic. of the cam is working better then the headset mic, which
> is
> just a cheap $6,00 headset with the green and pink plugs.
>
> I got the program you mentioned to check to which ip i'm connected.
> Both of us were connected via Up&p according WLM, but it seems that
> i wasn't directly connected to my friends ip.
> Still something left to find out why ;-))
>
> Just post my experience here, maybe it can be usefull for others.......
>
> heian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@xxxxxx> schreef in bericht
> news:04E953C7-BD18-4351-B5C1-9ECE8AAC5C5D@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Greetings,
>>
>> Amusingly usually it's the other way around (people complaining about the quality of the
>> cam mic). What kind of headset are we talking about here? There's no "known issue" here
>> for anything like what you're describing.
>>
>> Although you can check your UPnP status by pressing the Alt key on the keyboard to bring
>> up the menu bar, choosing Tools, then Options, then Connection (and waiting for it to
>> populate the data), that won't tell you if it's actually being used in a call. If a relay
>> is being used, typically you'll see a message in the top of the conversation window
>> telling you that the quality has been reduced.
>>
>> However, to be 100% sure you'll have to use tcpview, netstat, or a packet sniffering
>> application and look for your contact's IP.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
>> --
>>
>>
>> "heian" <siamlover@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:48275c69$0$6014$ba620dc5@xxxxxx

	Quote:
	>>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm having an old computer (compaq 500Mhz, 382mb) and the only things running are Xp, WLM >>> 8.1 and mcAfee. Together with a Logitec 3000 pro >>> (usb1) cam. Up&p is enabled in modem. >>> >>> Thing is that when i use the mic on the webcam during videochat, the sound is quiet >>> clear. however when i use the mic. from the headset, the sound is nearly not hearable for >>> the other party. Increase all the volume options for the mic, gave no better result. Just >>> want to know, is this a knowned issue? >>> >>> One more thing: if both parties enabled Up&p, is it possible to "see" if there is a >>> direct connection between the computers? (Thus, no relay-server in between?) >>> Somtimes the sound is deleyed or repeated, so i just like to know for sure if there is a >>> direct connection or not. >>> >>> Thanks for the reply in advance. >>> >>> heian >>> >>> >>>

>>

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