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Old 05-27-2008   #1 (permalink)
fullcontact68


 
 

Options lockdown

In WLM, is it possilbe somehow to lock down the options, so they can only be
changed by administrators?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-27-2008   #2 (permalink)
Jonathan Kay [MVP]


 
 

Re: Options lockdown

Greetings,

There are no GPOs for Messenger and locking down the registry will prevent sign-ins.

As such, not really.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--


"fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A017B83E-56EF-4F44-86AB-E48C47BA0AA4@xxxxxx
Quote:

> In WLM, is it possilbe somehow to lock down the options, so they can only be
> changed by administrators?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-28-2008   #3 (permalink)
fullcontact68


 
 

Re: Options lockdown

Where are the options stored, i.e. keep message history flags etc. I could
write a small app to monitor these, and change back to my defaults.


"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
Quote:

> Greetings,
>
> There are no GPOs for Messenger and locking down the registry will prevent sign-ins.
>
> As such, not really.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
> --
>
>
> "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:A017B83E-56EF-4F44-86AB-E48C47BA0AA4@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > In WLM, is it possilbe somehow to lock down the options, so they can only be
> > changed by administrators?
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-28-2008   #4 (permalink)
Jonathan Kay [MVP]


 
 

Re: Options lockdown

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger and most in the \PerPassportSettings\MSGRID

Where MSGRID is an ID based on the Live ID signed in. You can generate the ID using this
page:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/msngrid.aspx

Although if you're writing an app, probably be just as easy to enumerate through them all
regardless of ID.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--


"fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:6209FBD7-9193-4BB3-9E30-26A58020FBC7@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Where are the options stored, i.e. keep message history flags etc. I could
> write a small app to monitor these, and change back to my defaults.
>
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Greetings,
>>
>> There are no GPOs for Messenger and locking down the registry will prevent sign-ins.
>>
>> As such, not really.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
>> --
>>
>>
>> "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:A017B83E-56EF-4F44-86AB-E48C47BA0AA4@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > In WLM, is it possilbe somehow to lock down the options, so they can only be
>> > changed by administrators?
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-29-2008   #5 (permalink)
fullcontact68


 
 

Re: Options lockdown

Thanks Jonathan,

That should be fine.

Regards
Edward.

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
Quote:

> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger and most in the \PerPassportSettings\MSGRID
>
> Where MSGRID is an ID based on the Live ID signed in. You can generate the ID using this
> page:
> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/msngrid.aspx
>
> Although if you're writing an app, probably be just as easy to enumerate through them all
> regardless of ID.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
> --
>
>
> "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:6209FBD7-9193-4BB3-9E30-26A58020FBC7@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Where are the options stored, i.e. keep message history flags etc. I could
> > write a small app to monitor these, and change back to my defaults.
> >
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> There are no GPOs for Messenger and locking down the registry will prevent sign-ins.
> >>
> >> As such, not really.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jonathan Kay
> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> >> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> >> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> >> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:A017B83E-56EF-4F44-86AB-E48C47BA0AA4@xxxxxx
> >> > In WLM, is it possilbe somehow to lock down the options, so they can only be
> >> > changed by administrators?
> >>
> >>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-29-2008   #6 (permalink)
fullcontact68


 
 

Re: Options lockdown

Just been looking into this key(MessageLoggingEnabled), and noticed its a
reg_binary field.
Is this data special, or is there something generic which I can use?

Can I copy this keys data from a different profile (ie a master profile) and
use that value, or is it specific for each users account?


"fullcontact68" wrote:
Quote:

> Thanks Jonathan,
>
> That should be fine.
>
> Regards
> Edward.
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger and most in the \PerPassportSettings\MSGRID
> >
> > Where MSGRID is an ID based on the Live ID signed in. You can generate the ID using this
> > page:
> > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/msngrid.aspx
> >
> > Although if you're writing an app, probably be just as easy to enumerate through them all
> > regardless of ID.
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> > MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> > MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> > Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
> > --
> >
> >
> > "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:6209FBD7-9193-4BB3-9E30-26A58020FBC7@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > > Where are the options stored, i.e. keep message history flags etc. I could
> > > write a small app to monitor these, and change back to my defaults.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Greetings,
> > >>
> > >> There are no GPOs for Messenger and locking down the registry will prevent sign-ins.
> > >>
> > >> As such, not really.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jonathan Kay
> > >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> > >> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> > >> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> > >> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > >> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> news:A017B83E-56EF-4F44-86AB-E48C47BA0AA4@xxxxxx
> > >> > In WLM, is it possilbe somehow to lock down the options, so they can only be
> > >> > changed by administrators?
> > >>
> > >>
> >
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-29-2008   #7 (permalink)
Jonathan Kay [MVP]


 
 

Re: Options lockdown

Hi,

This value is actually encrypted -- you can't force it on. By design I'm afraid.

And no, you can't just copy it, it's specific to the machine.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--



"fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F48C8A8F-3913-44D4-9A85-86D65849A324@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Just been looking into this key(MessageLoggingEnabled), and noticed its a
> reg_binary field.
> Is this data special, or is there something generic which I can use?
>
> Can I copy this keys data from a different profile (ie a master profile) and
> use that value, or is it specific for each users account?
>
>
> "fullcontact68" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Thanks Jonathan,
>>
>> That should be fine.
>>
>> Regards
>> Edward.
>>
>> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger and most in the
>> > \PerPassportSettings\MSGRID
>> >
>> > Where MSGRID is an ID based on the Live ID signed in. You can generate the ID using
>> > this
>> > page:
>> > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/msngrid.aspx
>> >
>> > Although if you're writing an app, probably be just as easy to enumerate through them
>> > all
>> > regardless of ID.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jonathan Kay
>> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> > MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> > MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> > Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> > (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:6209FBD7-9193-4BB3-9E30-26A58020FBC7@xxxxxx
>> > > Where are the options stored, i.e. keep message history flags etc. I could
>> > > write a small app to monitor these, and change back to my defaults.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Greetings,
>> > >>
>> > >> There are no GPOs for Messenger and locking down the registry will prevent sign-ins.
>> > >>
>> > >> As such, not really.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Jonathan Kay
>> > >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> > >> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> > >> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> > >> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> > >> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or
>> > >> citation
>> > >> --
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > >> news:A017B83E-56EF-4F44-86AB-E48C47BA0AA4@xxxxxx
>> > >> > In WLM, is it possilbe somehow to lock down the options, so they can only be
>> > >> > changed by administrators?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-30-2008   #8 (permalink)
fullcontact68


 
 

Re: Options lockdown

Okay, thanks. I'll have to leave it for the time being.

Could parential controls be looked at for a future release?

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> This value is actually encrypted -- you can't force it on. By design I'm afraid.
>
> And no, you can't just copy it, it's specific to the machine.
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
> --
>
>
>
> "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:F48C8A8F-3913-44D4-9A85-86D65849A324@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Just been looking into this key(MessageLoggingEnabled), and noticed its a
> > reg_binary field.
> > Is this data special, or is there something generic which I can use?
> >
> > Can I copy this keys data from a different profile (ie a master profile) and
> > use that value, or is it specific for each users account?
> >
> >
> > "fullcontact68" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Thanks Jonathan,
> >>
> >> That should be fine.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Edward.
> >>
> >> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
> >>
> >> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger and most in the
> >> > \PerPassportSettings\MSGRID
> >> >
> >> > Where MSGRID is an ID based on the Live ID signed in. You can generate the ID using
> >> > this
> >> > page:
> >> > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/msngrid.aspx
> >> >
> >> > Although if you're writing an app, probably be just as easy to enumerate through them
> >> > all
> >> > regardless of ID.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Jonathan Kay
> >> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> >> > MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> >> > MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> >> > Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> > (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > news:6209FBD7-9193-4BB3-9E30-26A58020FBC7@xxxxxx
> >> > > Where are the options stored, i.e. keep message history flags etc. I could
> >> > > write a small app to monitor these, and change back to my defaults.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Greetings,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> There are no GPOs for Messenger and locking down the registry will prevent sign-ins.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> As such, not really.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Jonathan Kay
> >> > >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> >> > >> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> >> > >> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> >> > >> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> > >> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or
> >> > >> citation
> >> > >> --
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:A017B83E-56EF-4F44-86AB-E48C47BA0AA4@xxxxxx
> >> > >> > In WLM, is it possilbe somehow to lock down the options, so they can only be
> >> > >> > changed by administrators?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 05-30-2008   #9 (permalink)
Jonathan Kay [MVP]


 
 

Re: Options lockdown

Hi,

There are already parental controls using Family Safety Live:
https://fss.live.com/Default.aspx

But you can't "force" logs on like you're trying to do -- you will however get a record of
who's talking to whom and/or restrict a Live ID to only talking to specific people.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--


"fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news636666F-3FE5-4B13-AC51-CBA3C78C6A61@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Okay, thanks. I'll have to leave it for the time being.
>
> Could parential controls be looked at for a future release?
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> This value is actually encrypted -- you can't force it on. By design I'm afraid.
>>
>> And no, you can't just copy it, it's specific to the machine.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:F48C8A8F-3913-44D4-9A85-86D65849A324@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Just been looking into this key(MessageLoggingEnabled), and noticed its a
>> > reg_binary field.
>> > Is this data special, or is there something generic which I can use?
>> >
>> > Can I copy this keys data from a different profile (ie a master profile) and
>> > use that value, or is it specific for each users account?
>> >
>> >
>> > "fullcontact68" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks Jonathan,
>> >>
>> >> That should be fine.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Edward.
>> >>
>> >> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger and most in the
>> >> > \PerPassportSettings\MSGRID
>> >> >
>> >> > Where MSGRID is an ID based on the Live ID signed in. You can generate the ID using
>> >> > this
>> >> > page:
>> >> > http://messenger.jonathankay.com/msngrid.aspx
>> >> >
>> >> > Although if you're writing an app, probably be just as easy to enumerate through them
>> >> > all
>> >> > regardless of ID.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Jonathan Kay
>> >> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> >> > MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> >> > MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> >> > Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >> > (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or
>> >> > citation
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> > news:6209FBD7-9193-4BB3-9E30-26A58020FBC7@xxxxxx
>> >> > > Where are the options stored, i.e. keep message history flags etc. I could
>> >> > > write a small app to monitor these, and change back to my defaults.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Greetings,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> There are no GPOs for Messenger and locking down the registry will prevent
>> >> > >> sign-ins.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> As such, not really.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >> Jonathan Kay
>> >> > >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> >> > >> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> >> > >> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> >> > >> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >> > >> (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or
>> >> > >> citation
>> >> > >> --
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "fullcontact68" <fullcontact68@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> > >> news:A017B83E-56EF-4F44-86AB-E48C47BA0AA4@xxxxxx
>> >> > >> > In WLM, is it possilbe somehow to lock down the options, so they can only be
>> >> > >> > changed by administrators?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> >
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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