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| | Are Chats--text, audio, video---secure? I am concerned because my wife is an important university official and I sometimes communicate with her by chats, as well as with others. Some time ago, someone claimed to me that they had potentially embarrassing personal information obtained from a chat through a work connection, and I now wonder if all Live Messenger communications are secure. |
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| | Re: Are Chats--text, audio, video---secure? > I am concerned because my wife is an important university official and I Quote: > sometimes communicate with her by chats, as well as with others. Some > time > ago, someone claimed to me that they had potentially embarrassing personal > information obtained from a chat through a work connection, and I now > wonder if all Live Messenger communications are secure. > WLM chats are secure by default. In normal use it's only vissible for the people who chat together. But ... I'm sure that it can be monitored by some kind of hacking. For that matter, everything on the internet can be hacked if you want to. Having said that, a healty sence of small paranoia is always good, keeps you on your toes when it concerns safety. But with normal use and people keeping their PC's safe, I think there is no concern for security been broken. One tip though: people (mostly direct colleagues of family members) do claim that chats are monitored ... while in fact it's very easy to look into ones chat history when a PC in unattended. So, disabeling message history is always a good option then. Menno |
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| | Re: Are Chats--text, audio, video---secure? "TheCroW" <news@xxxxxx> wrote in microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger: Quote: Quote: >> I am concerned because my wife is an important university official >> and I sometimes communicate with her by chats, as well as with >> others. Some time >> ago, someone claimed to me that they had potentially embarrassing >> personal information obtained from a chat through a work connection, >> and I now wonder if all Live Messenger communications are secure. >> > Mmm, depends what the level of secure for you is? > WLM chats are secure by default. In normal use it's only vissible for > the people who chat together. > But ... I'm sure that it can be monitored by some kind of hacking. For > that matter, everything on the internet can be hacked if you want to. > Having said that, a healty sence of small paranoia is always good, > keeps you on your toes when it concerns safety. But with normal use > and people keeping their PC's safe, I think there is no concern for > security been broken. One tip though: people (mostly direct colleagues > of family members) do claim that chats are monitored ... while in fact > it's very easy to look into ones chat history when a PC in unattended. > So, disabeling message history is always a good option then. I am talking about the video/audio/text stream between hosts, where someone taps into a node (routers/gateways) in between. For instance, suppose an info tech group of a large university is ordered (or induced by some other means) to monitor a line to a certain IP address within the university network in order to try to get embarrassing or useful information through a WLM connection of any kind. Assume that there is NO workplace policy prohibition of the use of that line for business and personal matters, and that there is EVERY expectation of privacy, just as you might go into a workplace restroom with all reasonable expectation that cameras are not installed to examine every detail of your private anatomy or the use of its functions. Now, in the United States, such eavesdropping ("monitoring") without a court order would likely be illegal, maybe even criminal...it's certainly unethical, unless perhaps there is a notice posted everywhere in the workplace that there is no expectation of privacy on telephone or the Internet (web, email, audio/video conversations) or the use of your bodily functions. In other words, you might expect every orifice can be probed with such a policy. Now consider that I am located in a developing country, not exactly known for its standards at all, and laws only apply to the common man on the street, and only when a policeman decides the laws arbitrarily apply. It's not exactly the wild frontier here, but it's also not a place where you can assume that no one is interested or cares what you do. I am a foreigner here in this developing country, and my wife is a native, and she's made some enemies of the losers here because of the power she has wielded responsibly in bringing them down. It's not paranoid to say that they are HIGHLY motivated to bring her down hard, and in the meanest, most lowdown ways possible. Trying to bribe a tech to tap into an unsecure WLM connection---if it is not secure----is the least of the lowdown things they might try. If it's too much trouble to eavesdrop in real time, who'd really bother? Now as to the level of security/encryption, I am assuming that the level of hacking required to break into a secured video stream would be that required by a government with huge resources, not by some semi-clever hacker and part-time virus writer living in the developing world who happens to make a salary working an info tech gig. |
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| | Re: Are Chats--text, audio, video---secure? Greetings, There's no encryption going on in Messenger (not text, not video, not audio) besides the SSL used for authentication when you login. -- Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com (c) 2008 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation -- "Five By Five" <5x5@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:Xns9B367B1C5143B5x55x5@xxxxxx Quote: > > I am concerned because my wife is an important university official and I > sometimes communicate with her by chats, as well as with others. Some time > ago, someone claimed to me that they had potentially embarrassing personal > information obtained from a chat through a work connection, and I now > wonder if all Live Messenger communications are secure. > |
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