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Old 07-02-2009   #11 (permalink)
~Dan~


 
 

Re: About for WLM can't to remember login information


I tried your program, it worked, thanks!
It didn't wipe my IE passwords, well, password (since I only use it
for facebook since some of the apps don't work properly with Opera)

Here's an interesting thing too...

I booted up, opened WLM for a moment to have a look and of course it
hadn't remembered my password, because I hadn't ran your program yet.

Then I ran your program which rebooted as intended, then when I
started WLM I didn't even have to type my password even once! I
thought I'd have to type it the first time. I guess once your program
fixed things the old info was still there somewhere.

Incidentally when I ran your prog my firewall blocked it trying to
connect to a rogers.com(I think) ip, presumably that's you collecting
usage stats?

One thing... When I checked my email by clicking the icon in WLM it
used to open in IE and go straight to the page without me having to
type my username or password but now it opens in Opera and requires me
to type my password each time despite me ticking the always remember
box. Do you know if it's possible to make it open in IE like it used
to do?

Dan.


On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:09:59 -0400, "Jonathan Kay [MVP]"
<msnewsreplies@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
>Hi Dan,
>
>Messenger stores its username and passwords in the windows credential store. You can quickly
>see these by running:
>rundll32.exe keymgr.dll,KRShowKeyMgr
>from Explorer's Run dialog.
>
>You can also use the cmdkey.exe utility included in the Server 2003 Resource Kit (and in
>Vista/7 by default).
>
>The store is file based at %appdata%\microsoft\credentials (feel free to clear them out if
>you wish and don't mind losing what's in there).
>
>To address your other question, the tool is based on months of research, work and testing.
>It in fact makes 11 different changes (depending on operating system and what's there), does
>some editing of ACLs, and requires knowledge of windows locations if you were to do it
>manually. I have no doubt that you could handle this quite easily, but my time would be
>better spent dealing with more situations where there's obviously another problem (like in
>Zootal's case).
>
>This is actually the 5th version of this tool, but just the first version I've felt confident
>enough about to release to the public (and after getting the green light from others who've
>helped tested everything up till now). I'll be the first to accept there are conditions I
>haven't been able to address yet. I'll personally give my attention to anyone where this
>tool isn't working right now - just send me an e-mail.
>
>--
>Jonathan Kay
>Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>(c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation

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Old 07-02-2009   #12 (permalink)
N. Miller


 
 

Re: About for WLM can't to remember login information

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:22:01 -0700, FYu wrote:
Quote:

> I update my yahoo messenger's latest version (this msg from it's update
> program) and their has also to install Yahoo Toolbar in my computer.
I learned, a long time ago, to read what the update software offers to do. I
just ran the updater, and it offered to "Customize" the update. I was able
to decline the Yahoo! Toolbar, the offer to change my default search engine
to Yahoo!, and one other item, which I don't recall. Three boxes, total, to
uncheck.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-02-2009   #13 (permalink)
~Dan~


 
 

Re: About for WLM can't to remember login information

On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:46:51 -0700, "N. Miller"
<anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
>On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:22:01 -0700, FYu wrote:
>
Quote:

>> I update my yahoo messenger's latest version (this msg from it's update
>> program) and their has also to install Yahoo Toolbar in my computer.
>
>I learned, a long time ago, to read what the update software offers to do. I
>just ran the updater, and it offered to "Customize" the update. I was able
>to decline the Yahoo! Toolbar, the offer to change my default search engine
>to Yahoo!, and one other item, which I don't recall. Three boxes, total, to
>uncheck.
I always choose 'custom', however last time I updated Yahoo I wasn't
given that option.

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Old 07-02-2009   #14 (permalink)
N. Miller


 
 

Re: About for WLM can't to remember login information

On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:17:31 +0100, ~Dan~ wrote:
Quote:

> On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:46:51 -0700, "N. Miller"
> <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:22:01 -0700, FYu wrote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>> I update my yahoo messenger's latest version (this msg from it's update
>>> program) and their has also to install Yahoo Toolbar in my computer.
Quote:
Quote:

>>I learned, a long time ago, to read what the update software offers to do. I
>>just ran the updater, and it offered to "Customize" the update. I was able
>>to decline the Yahoo! Toolbar, the offer to change my default search engine
>>to Yahoo!, and one other item, which I don't recall. Three boxes, total, to
>>uncheck.
Quote:

> I always choose 'custom', however last time I updated Yahoo I wasn't
> given that option.
It was a button, labeled, "Customize". It was a subdued color, smaller in
size, in a box upper right on the menu; easy to miss if you were in a hurry.
The "Update Now" button (not really sure if that was the label) was larger,
more prominently displayed bottom-center, and bright yellow.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-04-2009   #15 (permalink)
Jonathan Kay [MVP]


 
 

Re: About for WLM can't to remember login information

Hi,

Good to hear it

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--

"FYu" <FYu@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1912DE24-DEC9-47C3-AB42-A78F286DFCC2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> hello Jonathan
> Thanks for your help tool
> It's really to fix my WLM error.
> THANKS A LOT !!!
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Greetings FYu,
>>
>> Oh I could kiss you (consider the offer open), this was the missing part of the puzzle.
>>
>> I've now managed to figure it out. You can find the tool to fix this here:
>> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/red...erremember.asp
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> (c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
>> --
>>
>> "FYu" <FYu@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:36DAE942-F296-48E2-A627-1AB1AF869DF7@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > I update my yahoo messenger's latest version (this msg from it's update
>> > program)
>> > and their has also to install Yahoo Toolbar in my computer.
>> > When I have finished to install this update I try to perform my WLM to login
>> > and
>> > my WLM can't remember my login information(account name & password) at all.
>> > Even I'm going to restart my computer and there have the same situation.
>> > I make sure I always to set WLM to remember my login information.
>> > In google I get this problem cause by Yahoo Toolbar for sure and I want to
>> > know how to fix it and except using windows system restore .
>> >
>> > I can't to describe for clearly please to forgive me
>> > THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY
>>
>>
>>
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Old 07-04-2009   #16 (permalink)
Jonathan Kay [MVP]


 
 

Re: About for WLM can't to remember login information

Hi Dan,

Interesting about the IE passwords, I hadn't actually gotten around to seeing what happens to
those.

That IP is mine, I'm not collecting usage stats though. It's a simple version check as if I
have a newer version, I think it's critical that the user be notified of that as these tools
end up floating around and could possibly be destructive if I've really screwed up (hasn't
happened yet).

Messenger 2009 will always use your default browser for all functions. However, using yet
another one of my tools you can stop that behaviour and have it go back to IE for Hotmail:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/hotmailinie.asp

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--

"~Dan~" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:no2q45dp10lg8g26t2j0h01hq4bj6v29kl@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> I tried your program, it worked, thanks!
> It didn't wipe my IE passwords, well, password (since I only use it
> for facebook since some of the apps don't work properly with Opera)
>
> Here's an interesting thing too...
>
> I booted up, opened WLM for a moment to have a look and of course it
> hadn't remembered my password, because I hadn't ran your program yet.
>
> Then I ran your program which rebooted as intended, then when I
> started WLM I didn't even have to type my password even once! I
> thought I'd have to type it the first time. I guess once your program
> fixed things the old info was still there somewhere.
>
> Incidentally when I ran your prog my firewall blocked it trying to
> connect to a rogers.com(I think) ip, presumably that's you collecting
> usage stats?
>
> One thing... When I checked my email by clicking the icon in WLM it
> used to open in IE and go straight to the page without me having to
> type my username or password but now it opens in Opera and requires me
> to type my password each time despite me ticking the always remember
> box. Do you know if it's possible to make it open in IE like it used
> to do?
>
> Dan.
>
>
> On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 00:09:59 -0400, "Jonathan Kay [MVP]"
> <msnewsreplies@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>
>>Hi Dan,
>>
>>Messenger stores its username and passwords in the windows credential store. You can
>>quickly
>>see these by running:
>>rundll32.exe keymgr.dll,KRShowKeyMgr
>>from Explorer's Run dialog.
>>
>>You can also use the cmdkey.exe utility included in the Server 2003 Resource Kit (and in
>>Vista/7 by default).
>>
>>The store is file based at %appdata%\microsoft\credentials (feel free to clear them out if
>>you wish and don't mind losing what's in there).
>>
>>To address your other question, the tool is based on months of research, work and testing.
>>It in fact makes 11 different changes (depending on operating system and what's there),
>>does
>>some editing of ACLs, and requires knowledge of windows locations if you were to do it
>>manually. I have no doubt that you could handle this quite easily, but my time would be
>>better spent dealing with more situations where there's obviously another problem (like in
>>Zootal's case).
>>
>>This is actually the 5th version of this tool, but just the first version I've felt
>>confident
>>enough about to release to the public (and after getting the green light from others who've
>>helped tested everything up till now). I'll be the first to accept there are conditions I
>>haven't been able to address yet. I'll personally give my attention to anyone where this
>>tool isn't working right now - just send me an e-mail.
>>
>>--
>>Jonathan Kay
>>Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>>MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>>MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>>Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>>(c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-04-2009   #17 (permalink)
Jonathan Kay [MVP]


 
 

Re: About for WLM can't to remember login information

Hi Norman,

That's pretty funny. Almost everyone I've spoken to has said it didn't give them the option,
so it's definitely not being seen by many.


I admit I didn't have the privilege of seeing it

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--

"N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:12vv0lfv26ci9.dlg@xxxxxx
Quote:

> It was a button, labeled, "Customize". It was a subdued color, smaller in
> size, in a box upper right on the menu; easy to miss if you were in a hurry.
> The "Update Now" button (not really sure if that was the label) was larger,
> more prominently displayed bottom-center, and bright yellow.


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Old 07-04-2009   #18 (permalink)
Jonathan Kay [MVP]


 
 

Re: About for WLM can't to remember login information

Er.. and by that I mean I just haven't installed Yahoo in ages so I didn't get to see the
upgrade message.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
--

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#JNrshL$JHA.3732@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi Norman,
>
> That's pretty funny. Almost everyone I've spoken to has said it didn't give them the
> option, so it's definitely not being seen by many.
>
>
> I admit I didn't have the privilege of seeing it
>
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> (c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
> --
>
> "N. Miller" <anonymous@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:12vv0lfv26ci9.dlg@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> It was a button, labeled, "Customize". It was a subdued color, smaller in
>> size, in a box upper right on the menu; easy to miss if you were in a hurry.
>> The "Update Now" button (not really sure if that was the label) was larger,
>> more prominently displayed bottom-center, and bright yellow.
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-07-2009   #19 (permalink)
~Dan~


 
 

Re: About for WLM can't to remember login information


Hi!
Thanks, that worked!
One little thing though... when I ran it IE was already selected so I
had to click default browser then click it back to IE, then it worked.
Dan.



On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:51:29 -0400, "Jonathan Kay [MVP]"
<msnewsreplies@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>However, using yet
>another one of my tools you can stop that behaviour and have it go back to IE for Hotmail:
>http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/hotmailinie.asp
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-10-2009   #20 (permalink)
N. Miller


 
 

Re: About for WLM can't to remember login information

On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:02:08 -0400, Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote:
Quote:

> That's pretty funny. Almost everyone I've spoken to has said it didn't
> give them the option, so it's definitely not being seen by many.
Like many such things, the placement is designed to be missed by many.
People tend to reflexively click on "OK" buttons, without reading message
text. Been that way since the Netscape 7.x days (when I first encountered
AOL being sneaky). So I guess that means nearly seven years, now. I read
carefully. I've seen offers to install the Google toolbar, the Yahoo!
toolbar, Ask! search, and others. It just takes an extra sixty seconds to
read the menus more carefully, and decide if they offer an opt out, or if
you should just cancel out.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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