How come there's no group for Window Live Hotmail???



conspicuous by its absence since hotmail is pants and needs far more support
than any other Live app, and probably has bigger user base than any other
windas live app

"JethroUK©" <reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#b8dhJVKKHA.3708@xxxxxx

> How come there's no group for Window Live Hotmail???
>
> conspicuous by its absence since hotmail is pants

?

> and needs far more support than any other Live app, and probably
> has bigger user base than any other windas live app

http://windowslivehelp.com
--
Noel

The help-link is Ok but that does not explain why there is not also a forum for
Mail
Calendar
Movie Maker
etc

It is not consitent to have one for Photo Gallery and not for the other Live
applications.



"Ildhund" wrote:

> "JethroUK©" <reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:#b8dhJVKKHA.3708@xxxxxx

> > How come there's no group for Window Live Hotmail???
> >
> > conspicuous by its absence since hotmail is pants

>
> ?

> > and needs far more support than any other Live app, and probably
> > has bigger user base than any other windas live app

>
> http://windowslivehelp.com
> --
> Noel
>
>

Forums are coming. The first ones deployed on answers.microsoft.com a few weeks
ago:
Windows Live Forums -
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...ry/windowslive
• Windows Live Family Safety
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...family/threads
• Photo Gallery, Movie Maker, and FrameIt
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...lmedia/threads
• Sync and Devices
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...wlsync/threads
• Windows Live Events and Toolbar
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...events/threads

I think that the grouping of services and naming is a mistake, but perhaps that
will be modified moving forward. I don't know when the other Windows Live
services and programs will get their own forums, but it is my understanding that
it is in the works.
-steve

Picsoe <Picsoe@xxxxxx> wrote:

>The help-link is Ok but that does not explain why there is not also a forum for
>Mail
>Calendar
>Movie Maker
>etc
>
>It is not consitent to have one for Photo Gallery and not for the other Live
>applications.
>
>
>
>"Ildhund" wrote:
>

>> "JethroUK©" <reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:#b8dhJVKKHA.3708@xxxxxx

>> > How come there's no group for Window Live Hotmail???
>> >
>> > conspicuous by its absence since hotmail is pants

>>
>> ?

>> > and needs far more support than any other Live app, and probably
>> > has bigger user base than any other windas live app

>>
>> http://windowslivehelp.com
>> --
>> Noel
>>
>>

--
Stephen Boots
MVP Windows Live
Windows Live OneCare/Live Mesh/MSE Forums Moderator
sboots@xxxxxx

Unfortunately, none on NNTP

--


Walter B




"StephenB" <sboots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:145l95lmtuhi6intgig8ar4qsh7r458i6h@xxxxxx

> Forums are coming. The first ones deployed on answers.microsoft.com a few
> weeks
> ago:
> Windows Live Forums -
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...ry/windowslive
> . Windows Live Family Safety
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...family/threads
> . Photo Gallery, Movie Maker, and FrameIt
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...lmedia/threads
> . Sync and Devices
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...wlsync/threads
> . Windows Live Events and Toolbar
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...events/threads
>
> I think that the grouping of services and naming is a mistake, but perhaps
> that
> will be modified moving forward. I don't know when the other Windows Live
> services and programs will get their own forums, but it is my
> understanding that
> it is in the works.
> -steve
>
> Picsoe <Picsoe@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

>>The help-link is Ok but that does not explain why there is not also a
>>forum for
>>Mail
>>Calendar
>>Movie Maker
>>etc
>>
>>It is not consitent to have one for Photo Gallery and not for the other
>>Live
>>applications.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Ildhund" wrote:
>>

>>> "JethroUK©" <reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:#b8dhJVKKHA.3708@xxxxxx
>>> > How come there's no group for Window Live Hotmail???
>>> >
>>> > conspicuous by its absence since hotmail is pants
>>>
>>> ?
>>> > and needs far more support than any other Live app, and probably
>>> > has bigger user base than any other windas live app
>>>
>>> http://windowslivehelp.com
>>> --
>>> Noel
>>>
>>>

>
> --
> Stephen Boots
> MVP Windows Live
> Windows Live OneCare/Live Mesh/MSE Forums Moderator
> sboots@xxxxxx

Again Hotmail seems conspicuous in it's absence - and it would quite
obviously would get more hits than all the other groups put together

Is it so poorly produced that Microsoft are actively distancing themselves
from it?

"StephenB" <sboots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:145l95lmtuhi6intgig8ar4qsh7r458i6h@xxxxxx

> Forums are coming. The first ones deployed on answers.microsoft.com a few
> weeks
> ago:
> Windows Live Forums -
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...ry/windowslive
> . Windows Live Family Safety
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...family/threads
> . Photo Gallery, Movie Maker, and FrameIt
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...lmedia/threads
> . Sync and Devices
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...wlsync/threads
> . Windows Live Events and Toolbar
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...events/threads
>
> I think that the grouping of services and naming is a mistake, but perhaps
> that
> will be modified moving forward. I don't know when the other Windows Live
> services and programs will get their own forums, but it is my
> understanding that
> it is in the works.
> -steve
>
> Picsoe <Picsoe@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

>>The help-link is Ok but that does not explain why there is not also a
>>forum for
>>Mail
>>Calendar
>>Movie Maker
>>etc
>>
>>It is not consitent to have one for Photo Gallery and not for the other
>>Live
>>applications.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Ildhund" wrote:
>>

>>> "JethroUK©" <reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:#b8dhJVKKHA.3708@xxxxxx
>>> > How come there's no group for Window Live Hotmail???
>>> >
>>> > conspicuous by its absence since hotmail is pants
>>>
>>> ?
>>> > and needs far more support than any other Live app, and probably
>>> > has bigger user base than any other windas live app
>>>
>>> http://windowslivehelp.com
>>> --
>>> Noel
>>>
>>>

>
> --
> Stephen Boots
> MVP Windows Live
> Windows Live OneCare/Live Mesh/MSE Forums Moderator
> sboots@xxxxxx

microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Or just go to support on the hotmail page.

"JethroUK©" <reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eHiyP4ZKKHA.4236@xxxxxx

> Again Hotmail seems conspicuous in it's absence - and it would quite
> obviously would get more hits than all the other groups put together
>
> Is it so poorly produced that Microsoft are actively distancing themselves
> from it?
>
> "StephenB" <sboots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:145l95lmtuhi6intgig8ar4qsh7r458i6h@xxxxxx

>> Forums are coming. The first ones deployed on answers.microsoft.com a few
>> weeks
>> ago:
>> Windows Live Forums -
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...ry/windowslive
>> . Windows Live Family Safety
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...family/threads
>> . Photo Gallery, Movie Maker, and FrameIt
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...lmedia/threads
>> . Sync and Devices
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...wlsync/threads
>> . Windows Live Events and Toolbar
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...events/threads
>>
>> I think that the grouping of services and naming is a mistake, but
>> perhaps that
>> will be modified moving forward. I don't know when the other Windows Live
>> services and programs will get their own forums, but it is my
>> understanding that
>> it is in the works.
>> -steve
>>
>> Picsoe <Picsoe@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>

>>>The help-link is Ok but that does not explain why there is not also a
>>>forum for
>>>Mail
>>>Calendar
>>>Movie Maker
>>>etc
>>>
>>>It is not consitent to have one for Photo Gallery and not for the other
>>>Live
>>>applications.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Ildhund" wrote:
>>>
>>>> "JethroUK©" <reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:#b8dhJVKKHA.3708@xxxxxx
>>>> > How come there's no group for Window Live Hotmail???
>>>> >
>>>> > conspicuous by its absence since hotmail is pants
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>> > and needs far more support than any other Live app, and probably
>>>> > has bigger user base than any other windas live app
>>>>
>>>> http://windowslivehelp.com
>>>> --
>>>> Noel
>>>>
>>>>

>>
>> --
>> Stephen Boots
>> MVP Windows Live
>> Windows Live OneCare/Live Mesh/MSE Forums Moderator
>> sboots@xxxxxx

>

"MHL" <booyakasha at mac dot com> wrote in message
newsA159E1A-05D7-40BF-A856-14D29E23EFF0@xxxxxx

> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop
>

......pretend that hotmail doesn't exist

the very word 'hotmail' seems to leave a nasty taste in their mouth - they
certainly wont support it

> Or just go to support on the hotmail page.
>
> "JethroUK©" <reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eHiyP4ZKKHA.4236@xxxxxx

>> Again Hotmail seems conspicuous in it's absence - and it would quite
>> obviously would get more hits than all the other groups put together
>>
>> Is it so poorly produced that Microsoft are actively distancing
>> themselves from it?
>>
>> "StephenB" <sboots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:145l95lmtuhi6intgig8ar4qsh7r458i6h@xxxxxx

>>> Forums are coming. The first ones deployed on answers.microsoft.com a
>>> few weeks
>>> ago:
>>> Windows Live Forums -
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...ry/windowslive
>>> . Windows Live Family Safety
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...family/threads
>>> . Photo Gallery, Movie Maker, and FrameIt
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...lmedia/threads
>>> . Sync and Devices
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...wlsync/threads
>>> . Windows Live Events and Toolbar
>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...events/threads
>>>
>>> I think that the grouping of services and naming is a mistake, but
>>> perhaps that
>>> will be modified moving forward. I don't know when the other Windows
>>> Live
>>> services and programs will get their own forums, but it is my
>>> understanding that
>>> it is in the works.
>>> -steve
>>>
>>> Picsoe <Picsoe@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The help-link is Ok but that does not explain why there is not also a
>>>>forum for
>>>>Mail
>>>>Calendar
>>>>Movie Maker
>>>>etc
>>>>
>>>>It is not consitent to have one for Photo Gallery and not for the other
>>>>Live
>>>>applications.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ildhund" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "JethroUK©" <reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:#b8dhJVKKHA.3708@xxxxxx
>>>>> > How come there's no group for Window Live Hotmail???
>>>>> >
>>>>> > conspicuous by its absence since hotmail is pants
>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>> > and needs far more support than any other Live app, and probably
>>>>> > has bigger user base than any other windas live app
>>>>>
>>>>> http://windowslivehelp.com
>>>>> --
>>>>> Noel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephen Boots
>>> MVP Windows Live
>>> Windows Live OneCare/Live Mesh/MSE Forums Moderator
>>> sboots@xxxxxx

>>

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:00:21 -0700, MHL wrote:

> microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

Not really the right place for "Windows Live Hotmail". There never was a
"proper" place. But 'microsoft.public.msn.discussion' was sort of an /ad
hoc/ group, for a while.

> Or just go to support on the hotmail page.

Indeed. As far as I know, the only support for Hotmail is in one, or more,
web forums; no NNTP groups in the 'microsoft.public.*' hierarchy.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

There never has been a Hotmail unique group.
In the past questions were fielded in two nntp groups
microsoft.public.internet.mail
microsoft.public.msn.disussion

That latter doing double duty for MSN software and Hotmail was called previously called MSN Hotmail.

Ever since the Hotmail Solution went online many of the folks who monitor that forum now just point persons to the web forum. Some
of us, if the question can be answered, continue to answer the question rather than tell someone to go elsewhere, requiring
registerring a Live ID for site use, re-ask the question, and then find it later after some support moderator has moved it to
another location, or Hotmail support incorrectly answers the question yet tags it as a correct answer.

Thus, if you do have a Hotmail specific question that is not related to verification of your account(access, incorrect password),
I've no qualms about answering it here or in those two above groups.

Due note, as time goes on, Msft is pushing more support content with Msft personnel presence(unlike these Nttp forums) to the web
forums.

--
...winston
ms-mvp mail

"JethroUK©" <reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#b8dhJVKKHA.3708@xxxxxx

> How come there's no group for Window Live Hotmail???
>
> conspicuous by its absence since hotmail is pants and needs far more support than any other Live app, and probably has bigger
> user base than any other windas live app