When creating a new VB Web Application Project with VS2008, there are several
settings (compiler settings, option strict, etc) that appear both in the
web.config file and "My Project". I'm wondering what takes precedent, what
the benefit of using one vs. the other is, and what happens if they conflict?

"My Project" is meant to be the way to set your preferences, rather than
going into configuration files and editing them manually. You shouldn't
ever have to go into web.config to set option strict because you can do it
in the My Project dialgogs.

I don't think you can have a conflict because for things that are in
web.config and My Project, changing the setting in one will cause it to
change in the other.


"MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A93B7D92-5BC1-4622-9F02-C446FAD81331@xxxxxx

> When creating a new VB Web Application Project with VS2008, there are
> several
> settings (compiler settings, option strict, etc) that appear both in the
> web.config file and "My Project". I'm wondering what takes precedent, what
> the benefit of using one vs. the other is, and what happens if they
> conflict?

That is incorrect. I agree that My Project is meant to be a method of editing
config files, but not web.config. Check for yourself. Perhaps it edits
app.config? That would make sense.

"Scott M." wrote:

> "My Project" is meant to be the way to set your preferences, rather than
> going into configuration files and editing them manually. You shouldn't
> ever have to go into web.config to set option strict because you can do it
> in the My Project dialgogs.
>
> I don't think you can have a conflict because for things that are in
> web.config and My Project, changing the setting in one will cause it to
> change in the other.
>
>
> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:A93B7D92-5BC1-4622-9F02-C446FAD81331@xxxxxx

> > When creating a new VB Web Application Project with VS2008, there are
> > several
> > settings (compiler settings, option strict, etc) that appear both in the
> > web.config file and "My Project". I'm wondering what takes precedent, what
> > the benefit of using one vs. the other is, and what happens if they
> > conflict?

>
>
>

Try

That is what we have to do too.

Cor

"MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> schreef in bericht
news:A93B7D92-5BC1-4622-9F02-C446FAD81331@xxxxxx

> When creating a new VB Web Application Project with VS2008, there are
> several
> settings (compiler settings, option strict, etc) that appear both in the
> web.config file and "My Project". I'm wondering what takes precedent, what
> the benefit of using one vs. the other is, and what happens if they
> conflict?

No, I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.

Perhaps you misunderstood what I said. I didn't say that we should never
have to edit web.config directly. My comments were about your particular
Option Strict, etc. settings. You should never have to go into web.config
to turn Option Strict (and various other settings) on or off, that is what
My Project dialogs are for and if you change it in one, it will be refelcted
in the other.

-Scott

"MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:AD2A4EBA-F95F-4A53-AA21-17FD53A1E2EB@xxxxxx

> That is incorrect. I agree that My Project is meant to be a method of
> editing
> config files, but not web.config. Check for yourself. Perhaps it edits
> app.config? That would make sense.
>
> "Scott M." wrote:
>

>> "My Project" is meant to be the way to set your preferences, rather than
>> going into configuration files and editing them manually. You shouldn't
>> ever have to go into web.config to set option strict because you can do
>> it
>> in the My Project dialgogs.
>>
>> I don't think you can have a conflict because for things that are in
>> web.config and My Project, changing the setting in one will cause it to
>> change in the other.
>>
>>
>> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:A93B7D92-5BC1-4622-9F02-C446FAD81331@xxxxxx

>> > When creating a new VB Web Application Project with VS2008, there are
>> > several
>> > settings (compiler settings, option strict, etc) that appear both in
>> > the
>> > web.config file and "My Project". I'm wondering what takes precedent,
>> > what
>> > the benefit of using one vs. the other is, and what happens if they
>> > conflict?

>>
>>
>>

I have litterally seen otherwise. I am looking at my code right now. I turn
option strict on in one, and it is NOT reflected in the other.

"Scott M." wrote:

> No, I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.
>
> Perhaps you misunderstood what I said. I didn't say that we should never
> have to edit web.config directly. My comments were about your particular
> Option Strict, etc. settings. You should never have to go into web.config
> to turn Option Strict (and various other settings) on or off, that is what
> My Project dialogs are for and if you change it in one, it will be refelcted
> in the other.
>
> -Scott
>
> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:AD2A4EBA-F95F-4A53-AA21-17FD53A1E2EB@xxxxxx

> > That is incorrect. I agree that My Project is meant to be a method of
> > editing
> > config files, but not web.config. Check for yourself. Perhaps it edits
> > app.config? That would make sense.
> >
> > "Scott M." wrote:
> >

> >> "My Project" is meant to be the way to set your preferences, rather than
> >> going into configuration files and editing them manually. You shouldn't
> >> ever have to go into web.config to set option strict because you can do
> >> it
> >> in the My Project dialgogs.
> >>
> >> I don't think you can have a conflict because for things that are in
> >> web.config and My Project, changing the setting in one will cause it to
> >> change in the other.
> >>
> >>
> >> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:A93B7D92-5BC1-4622-9F02-C446FAD81331@xxxxxx
> >> > When creating a new VB Web Application Project with VS2008, there are
> >> > several
> >> > settings (compiler settings, option strict, etc) that appear both in
> >> > the
> >> > web.config file and "My Project". I'm wondering what takes precedent,
> >> > what
> >> > the benefit of using one vs. the other is, and what happens if they
> >> > conflict?
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

Have you tried changing Option Stict in the designer withOUT web.config open
in the editor and then opened web.config AFTER you've saved the designer
dialog?


"MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:25F9B76A-8B1E-4C40-80B3-DF3FAFBE065F@xxxxxx

>I have litterally seen otherwise. I am looking at my code right now. I turn
> option strict on in one, and it is NOT reflected in the other.
>
> "Scott M." wrote:
>

>> No, I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.
>>
>> Perhaps you misunderstood what I said. I didn't say that we should never
>> have to edit web.config directly. My comments were about your particular
>> Option Strict, etc. settings. You should never have to go into
>> web.config
>> to turn Option Strict (and various other settings) on or off, that is
>> what
>> My Project dialogs are for and if you change it in one, it will be
>> refelcted
>> in the other.
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:AD2A4EBA-F95F-4A53-AA21-17FD53A1E2EB@xxxxxx

>> > That is incorrect. I agree that My Project is meant to be a method of
>> > editing
>> > config files, but not web.config. Check for yourself. Perhaps it edits
>> > app.config? That would make sense.
>> >
>> > "Scott M." wrote:
>> >
>> >> "My Project" is meant to be the way to set your preferences, rather
>> >> than
>> >> going into configuration files and editing them manually. You
>> >> shouldn't
>> >> ever have to go into web.config to set option strict because you can
>> >> do
>> >> it
>> >> in the My Project dialgogs.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think you can have a conflict because for things that are in
>> >> web.config and My Project, changing the setting in one will cause it
>> >> to
>> >> change in the other.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:A93B7D92-5BC1-4622-9F02-C446FAD81331@xxxxxx
>> >> > When creating a new VB Web Application Project with VS2008, there
>> >> > are
>> >> > several
>> >> > settings (compiler settings, option strict, etc) that appear both in
>> >> > the
>> >> > web.config file and "My Project". I'm wondering what takes
>> >> > precedent,
>> >> > what
>> >> > the benefit of using one vs. the other is, and what happens if they
>> >> > conflict?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>

Yes. It does not change web.config.

"Scott M." wrote:

> Have you tried changing Option Stict in the designer withOUT web.config open
> in the editor and then opened web.config AFTER you've saved the designer
> dialog?
>
>
> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:25F9B76A-8B1E-4C40-80B3-DF3FAFBE065F@xxxxxx

> >I have litterally seen otherwise. I am looking at my code right now. I turn
> > option strict on in one, and it is NOT reflected in the other.
> >
> > "Scott M." wrote:
> >

> >> No, I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.
> >>
> >> Perhaps you misunderstood what I said. I didn't say that we should never
> >> have to edit web.config directly. My comments were about your particular
> >> Option Strict, etc. settings. You should never have to go into
> >> web.config
> >> to turn Option Strict (and various other settings) on or off, that is
> >> what
> >> My Project dialogs are for and if you change it in one, it will be
> >> refelcted
> >> in the other.
> >>
> >> -Scott
> >>
> >> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:AD2A4EBA-F95F-4A53-AA21-17FD53A1E2EB@xxxxxx
> >> > That is incorrect. I agree that My Project is meant to be a method of
> >> > editing
> >> > config files, but not web.config. Check for yourself. Perhaps it edits
> >> > app.config? That would make sense.
> >> >
> >> > "Scott M." wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "My Project" is meant to be the way to set your preferences, rather
> >> >> than
> >> >> going into configuration files and editing them manually. You
> >> >> shouldn't
> >> >> ever have to go into web.config to set option strict because you can
> >> >> do
> >> >> it
> >> >> in the My Project dialgogs.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think you can have a conflict because for things that are in
> >> >> web.config and My Project, changing the setting in one will cause it
> >> >> to
> >> >> change in the other.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:A93B7D92-5BC1-4622-9F02-C446FAD81331@xxxxxx
> >> >> > When creating a new VB Web Application Project with VS2008, there
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > several
> >> >> > settings (compiler settings, option strict, etc) that appear both in
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > web.config file and "My Project". I'm wondering what takes
> >> >> > precedent,
> >> >> > what
> >> >> > the benefit of using one vs. the other is, and what happens if they
> >> >> > conflict?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>
>

Hi MCM,

As for the compile options in "project properties" and web.config
<compilation> element, they are actually different. To clarify the
difference and how each of them will affect ASP.NET Web application
project's output, it may require us to first go through the difference
between "Web Application project" and the default "Web Site project" of
ASP.NET 2.0 Web application.

In ASP.NET 2.0, it by default use dynamic compilation, which means it
doesn't generate precompiled assemblies in bin dir(like ASP.NET 1.1 /VS
2003). And that's just what you'll get when you create ASP.NET 2.0 web
project via the "Web Site project" model. Later, the ASP.NET team add a
new project model "Web Application project", this provide an ASP.NET 1.1/VS
2003 like model, at development time in IDE, you will be able to
build/compile the website and get precompiled assembly in "bin" dir.
However, the precompile only compile those codebehind classes or component
classes(such as those ones in app_code dir) into assemblies, for aspx or
ascx template, it still require dynamic compile at runtime. Here is a blog
entry that also mentioned some information on this:

#ASP.NET 2.0 - Web Site vs Web Application project
http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/m...3/ASP.NET-2.0-
_2D00_-Web-Site-vs-Web-Application-project.aspx

Now, let's turn to the difference of the two compilation settings you have
seen:

1. the compilation settings/options in "My project" settings, that one is
used for the precompiling you performed via the build menu in visual
studio, which will affect the generated assembly in bin dir(just like other
non-asp.net projects such as winform, console...)

2. the compilation settings in web.config <compilation> element. This
setting control the compilation options/behaviors of the ASP.NET runtime
dynamic compilation (such as those aspx and ascx template which require
being compiled at runtime when they're accessed first time).

Here are some other articles mentioned some useful information related to
the ASP.NET 2.0 dynamic compilation model and something that coupled with
the visual studio IDE:

#Understanding ASP.NET Dynamic Compilation
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms366723.aspx

#Debug and Release Builds in ASP.NET 2.0
http://odetocode.com/blogs/scott/arc...1/15/2464.aspx

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead


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--------------------

>From: =?Utf-8?B?TUNN?= <MCM@xxxxxx>

>Subject: Re: web.config vs. My Project
>Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:32:02 -0700

>Yes. It does not change web.config.
>
>"Scott M." wrote:
>

>> Have you tried changing Option Stict in the designer withOUT web.config

open

>> in the editor and then opened web.config AFTER you've saved the designer
>> dialog?
>>
>>
>> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:25F9B76A-8B1E-4C40-80B3-DF3FAFBE065F@xxxxxx

>> >I have litterally seen otherwise. I am looking at my code right now. I

turn

>> > option strict on in one, and it is NOT reflected in the other.
>> >
>> > "Scott M." wrote:
>> >
>> >> No, I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps you misunderstood what I said. I didn't say that we should

never

>> >> have to edit web.config directly. My comments were about your

particular

>> >> Option Strict, etc. settings. You should never have to go into
>> >> web.config
>> >> to turn Option Strict (and various other settings) on or off, that is
>> >> what
>> >> My Project dialogs are for and if you change it in one, it will be
>> >> refelcted
>> >> in the other.
>> >>
>> >> -Scott
>> >>
>> >> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:AD2A4EBA-F95F-4A53-AA21-17FD53A1E2EB@xxxxxx
>> >> > That is incorrect. I agree that My Project is meant to be a method

of

>> >> > editing
>> >> > config files, but not web.config. Check for yourself. Perhaps it

edits

>> >> > app.config? That would make sense.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Scott M." wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "My Project" is meant to be the way to set your preferences,

rather

>> >> >> than
>> >> >> going into configuration files and editing them manually. You
>> >> >> shouldn't
>> >> >> ever have to go into web.config to set option strict because you

can

>> >> >> do
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> in the My Project dialgogs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't think you can have a conflict because for things that are

in

>> >> >> web.config and My Project, changing the setting in one will cause

it

>> >> >> to
>> >> >> change in the other.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:A93B7D92-5BC1-4622-9F02-C446FAD81331@xxxxxx
>> >> >> > When creating a new VB Web Application Project with VS2008,

there

>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > several
>> >> >> > settings (compiler settings, option strict, etc) that appear

both in

>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > web.config file and "My Project". I'm wondering what takes
>> >> >> > precedent,
>> >> >> > what
>> >> >> > the benefit of using one vs. the other is, and what happens if

they

>> >> >> > conflict?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>
>>

>

Very helpful. Thank you for the explanation.

"Steven Cheng [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hi MCM,
>
> As for the compile options in "project properties" and web.config
> <compilation> element, they are actually different. To clarify the
> difference and how each of them will affect ASP.NET Web application
> project's output, it may require us to first go through the difference
> between "Web Application project" and the default "Web Site project" of
> ASP.NET 2.0 Web application.
>
> In ASP.NET 2.0, it by default use dynamic compilation, which means it
> doesn't generate precompiled assemblies in bin dir(like ASP.NET 1.1 /VS
> 2003). And that's just what you'll get when you create ASP.NET 2.0 web
> project via the "Web Site project" model. Later, the ASP.NET team add a
> new project model "Web Application project", this provide an ASP.NET 1.1/VS
> 2003 like model, at development time in IDE, you will be able to
> build/compile the website and get precompiled assembly in "bin" dir.
> However, the precompile only compile those codebehind classes or component
> classes(such as those ones in app_code dir) into assemblies, for aspx or
> ascx template, it still require dynamic compile at runtime. Here is a blog
> entry that also mentioned some information on this:
>
> #ASP.NET 2.0 - Web Site vs Web Application project
> http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/m...3/ASP.NET-2.0-
> _2D00_-Web-Site-vs-Web-Application-project.aspx
>
> Now, let's turn to the difference of the two compilation settings you have
> seen:
>
> 1. the compilation settings/options in "My project" settings, that one is
> used for the precompiling you performed via the build menu in visual
> studio, which will affect the generated assembly in bin dir(just like other
> non-asp.net projects such as winform, console...)
>
> 2. the compilation settings in web.config <compilation> element. This
> setting control the compilation options/behaviors of the ASP.NET runtime
> dynamic compilation (such as those aspx and ascx template which require
> being compiled at runtime when they're accessed first time).
>
> Here are some other articles mentioned some useful information related to
> the ASP.NET 2.0 dynamic compilation model and something that coupled with
> the visual studio IDE:
>
> #Understanding ASP.NET Dynamic Compilation
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms366723.aspx
>
> #Debug and Release Builds in ASP.NET 2.0
> http://odetocode.com/blogs/scott/arc...1/15/2464.aspx
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Steven Cheng
>
> Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
>
>
> Delighting our customers is our #1 priority. We welcome your comments and
> suggestions about how we can improve the support we provide to you. Please
> feel free to let my manager know what you think of the level of service
> provided. You can send feedback directly to my manager at:
> msdnmg@xxxxxx.
>
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> ications.
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> up response may take approximately 2 business days as the support
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> most efficient resolution. The offering is not appropriate for situations
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>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------
>

> >From: =?Utf-8?B?TUNN?= <MCM@xxxxxx>

>

> >Subject: Re: web.config vs. My Project
> >Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:32:02 -0700

>

> >Yes. It does not change web.config.
> >
> >"Scott M." wrote:
> >

> >> Have you tried changing Option Stict in the designer withOUT web.config

> open

> >> in the editor and then opened web.config AFTER you've saved the designer
> >> dialog?
> >>
> >>
> >> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:25F9B76A-8B1E-4C40-80B3-DF3FAFBE065F@xxxxxx
> >> >I have litterally seen otherwise. I am looking at my code right now. I

> turn

> >> > option strict on in one, and it is NOT reflected in the other.
> >> >
> >> > "Scott M." wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> No, I'm sorry, but you are incorrect.
> >> >>
> >> >> Perhaps you misunderstood what I said. I didn't say that we should

> never

> >> >> have to edit web.config directly. My comments were about your

> particular

> >> >> Option Strict, etc. settings. You should never have to go into
> >> >> web.config
> >> >> to turn Option Strict (and various other settings) on or off, that is
> >> >> what
> >> >> My Project dialogs are for and if you change it in one, it will be
> >> >> refelcted
> >> >> in the other.
> >> >>
> >> >> -Scott
> >> >>
> >> >> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:AD2A4EBA-F95F-4A53-AA21-17FD53A1E2EB@xxxxxx
> >> >> > That is incorrect. I agree that My Project is meant to be a method

> of

> >> >> > editing
> >> >> > config files, but not web.config. Check for yourself. Perhaps it

> edits

> >> >> > app.config? That would make sense.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Scott M." wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "My Project" is meant to be the way to set your preferences,

> rather

> >> >> >> than
> >> >> >> going into configuration files and editing them manually. You
> >> >> >> shouldn't
> >> >> >> ever have to go into web.config to set option strict because you

> can

> >> >> >> do
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> in the My Project dialgogs.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I don't think you can have a conflict because for things that are

> in

> >> >> >> web.config and My Project, changing the setting in one will cause

> it

> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> change in the other.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "MCM" <MCM@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:A93B7D92-5BC1-4622-9F02-C446FAD81331@xxxxxx
> >> >> >> > When creating a new VB Web Application Project with VS2008,

> there

> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> > several
> >> >> >> > settings (compiler settings, option strict, etc) that appear

> both in

> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > web.config file and "My Project". I'm wondering what takes
> >> >> >> > precedent,
> >> >> >> > what
> >> >> >> > the benefit of using one vs. the other is, and what happens if

> they

> >> >> >> > conflict?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >

>
>