![]() |
![]() | ![]() | ![]() | ![]() | ![]() | ![]() | ![]() |
| Welcome to Windows Vista Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find solutions with any problems, errors or issues you are experiencing with Windows Vista. The Vista forum also covers news and updates and has an extensive Windows Vista tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks. |
| |||||||
![]() |
| |
| | #1 (permalink) |
| | Beginner - which is best dotnet.VB or dotnet.VC? Hi All, I have a number of databases which I would like to convert to VB or VC using Microsoft Visual Studio Express. I know I cannot just click a button and have everything done automatically and that I would need to learn to program. What I would like to know is which language would be best for a novice. I've written a few bits of VBA and SQL but nothing spectacular, I have done a little basic programming way back in the days of BBC and Commodore Basic's. So guys what would you suggest? Thanks Steve |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #2 (permalink) |
| | Re: Beginner - which is best dotnet.VB or dotnet.VC? Hi Steve, I started programming in VB.net since I was already familiar with VB4/5 and 6, but the differences were so major that the several years of experience with VB made little difference to me picking up VB.net. After a short while programming in VB.net I started up a dotnet programming hints and tips website, initially offering code examples in VB.net only. However, after several requests for C# translations I decided to offer both versions since I had bought Visual Studio and had both anyway. It took a little while to get used to the syntax differences, but overall both languages are pretty much the same and I picked up C# very quickly. When first starting up, the main source of your knowledge is going to come from code examples, and these are widely available in both VB and C# so that isn't an issue. I would suggest that you download and try them both out to see which you prefer. If you're not a touch typist, then it's probably a good idea to start with VB as it's not case sensitive, and it will save you time in correcting if you've not looked at the screen for a while. I regularly program in both languages and can't think of any other reason to choose one over the other. Even having thrown that in as an argument, I am not a touch typist but I still use C# around 70% of the time. I just have a little curse every now and then when I look at what I've just typed ![]() -- Mick Doherty http://dotnetrix.co.uk/nothing.htm "SteveB" <steve@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EcSdnXyfw6CTVy_VnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi All, > > I have a number of databases which I would like to convert to VB or VC > using > Microsoft Visual Studio Express. I know I cannot just click a button and > have everything done automatically and that I would need to learn to > program. What I would like to know is which language would be best for a > novice. > > I've written a few bits of VBA and SQL but nothing spectacular, I have > done > a little basic programming way back in the days of BBC and Commodore > Basic's. > > So guys what would you suggest? > > Thanks > > Steve > |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #3 (permalink) |
| | Re: Beginner - which is best dotnet.VB or dotnet.VC? Here is a subtle difference. Google'ing for "how to's". Since VB.NET is a later version (I use this term loosely) of VB, then when you're looking for code samples, you will find google results from alot of years, and alot of versions of VB code (as in, when you're looking, you'll probably find VB.NET examples mixed in with VB6 (or 5 or 4 or before) examples. With C#, finding stuff via google is easier, since its relatively new. And you only have to be careful to not do something in C# in a 1.1'ish way, that there may be a 2.0 (or 3.0 or 3.5) way that is better. Even when I'm coding in VB.NET (which is seldom these days), I still look for answers via googling by typing in C# syntax? Why? Because all the legacy vb examples don't come up to lead me down a red herring link. Subtle difference, but a difference. ... Technically its just a preference of choice. So maybe you'll like typing VB.NET code better. I don't. I like the conciseness of C#. Good luck with your decision. "SteveB" <steve@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EcSdnXyfw6CTVy_VnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi All, > > I have a number of databases which I would like to convert to VB or VC > using > Microsoft Visual Studio Express. I know I cannot just click a button and > have everything done automatically and that I would need to learn to > program. What I would like to know is which language would be best for a > novice. > > I've written a few bits of VBA and SQL but nothing spectacular, I have > done > a little basic programming way back in the days of BBC and Commodore > Basic's. > > So guys what would you suggest? > > Thanks > > Steve > |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #4 (permalink) |
| Vista Business x64 | Re: Beginner - which is best dotnet.VB or dotnet.VC? If you are looking to move into software development for a living, several large salary surveys I have seen indicated that C# developers make substantially more than VB.NET folks. In one survey the gap was around $18K/year. |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #5 (permalink) |
| | Re: Beginner - which is best dotnet.VB or dotnet.VC? To get VB.net results rather than VB classic in your google search results just make .net a required term. i.e. vb +.net database -- Mick Doherty http://dotnetrix.co.uk/nothing.htm "sloan" <sloan@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#krkGluBJHA.3668@xxxxxx Quote: > > Here is a subtle difference. > > Google'ing for "how to's". > > Since VB.NET is a later version (I use this term loosely) of VB, then when > you're looking for code samples, you will find google results from alot of > years, and alot of versions of VB code (as in, when you're looking, you'll > probably find VB.NET examples mixed in with VB6 (or 5 or 4 or before) > examples. > > With C#, finding stuff via google is easier, since its relatively new. > And you only have to be careful to not do something in C# in a 1.1'ish > way, that there may be a 2.0 (or 3.0 or 3.5) way that is better. > > Even when I'm coding in VB.NET (which is seldom these days), I still look > for answers via googling by typing in C# syntax? > Why? Because all the legacy vb examples don't come up to lead me down a > red herring link. > > Subtle difference, but a difference. > > .. > > Technically its just a preference of choice. So maybe you'll like typing > VB.NET code better. > I don't. I like the conciseness of C#. > > Good luck with your decision. > > > > > "SteveB" <steve@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:EcSdnXyfw6CTVy_VnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: >> Hi All, >> >> I have a number of databases which I would like to convert to VB or VC >> using >> Microsoft Visual Studio Express. I know I cannot just click a button and >> have everything done automatically and that I would need to learn to >> program. What I would like to know is which language would be best for a >> novice. >> >> I've written a few bits of VBA and SQL but nothing spectacular, I have >> done >> a little basic programming way back in the days of BBC and Commodore >> Basic's. >> >> So guys what would you suggest? >> >> Thanks >> >> Steve >> > |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #6 (permalink) |
| | Re: Beginner - which is best dotnet.VB or dotnet.VC? You're right, that does cut down on the classic entanglement...... Maybe that google-tip .... and if vb.net 1.1 (or rather vb7? i can't remember all the naming conventions) didn't have its deficiencies, I might have stayed. http://groups.google.com/group/micro...7b56f0b07cffcb For the record, most have been addressed in 2.0. But those 1.1 years with vb.net had some real gotchas. ............ Option JustLikeCsharp On would be nice as well. I have had several talks with junior developers about type safety. And when we put it on (at the project/solution level in their vb.net projects), the records is 212 errors. I was like "Hmm. Have a fun night fixing all of those". ... "Mick Doherty" <EXCHANGE#WITH@xxxxxx[mick.doherty#dotnetrix.co.uk]> wrote in message news:8F305B36-5339-4CCB-9A2C-568BDD410E57@xxxxxx Quote: > To get VB.net results rather than VB classic in your google search results > just make .net a required term. > > i.e. vb +.net database > > -- > Mick Doherty > http://dotnetrix.co.uk/nothing.htm > > "sloan" <sloan@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:#krkGluBJHA.3668@xxxxxx Quote: >> >> Here is a subtle difference. >> >> Google'ing for "how to's". >> >> Since VB.NET is a later version (I use this term loosely) of VB, then >> when you're looking for code samples, you will find google results from >> alot of years, and alot of versions of VB code (as in, when you're >> looking, you'll probably find VB.NET examples mixed in with VB6 (or 5 or >> 4 or before) examples. >> >> With C#, finding stuff via google is easier, since its relatively new. >> And you only have to be careful to not do something in C# in a 1.1'ish >> way, that there may be a 2.0 (or 3.0 or 3.5) way that is better. >> >> Even when I'm coding in VB.NET (which is seldom these days), I still look >> for answers via googling by typing in C# syntax? >> Why? Because all the legacy vb examples don't come up to lead me down a >> red herring link. >> >> Subtle difference, but a difference. >> >> .. >> >> Technically its just a preference of choice. So maybe you'll like typing >> VB.NET code better. >> I don't. I like the conciseness of C#. >> >> Good luck with your decision. >> >> >> >> >> "SteveB" <steve@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:EcSdnXyfw6CTVy_VnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I have a number of databases which I would like to convert to VB or VC >>> using >>> Microsoft Visual Studio Express. I know I cannot just click a button and >>> have everything done automatically and that I would need to learn to >>> program. What I would like to know is which language would be best for a >>> novice. >>> >>> I've written a few bits of VBA and SQL but nothing spectacular, I have >>> done >>> a little basic programming way back in the days of BBC and Commodore >>> Basic's. >>> >>> So guys what would you suggest? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Steve >>> >> |
My System Specs![]() |
| | #7 (permalink) |
| | Re: Beginner - which is best dotnet.VB or dotnet.VC? Microsoft defined VB as easy to use. Not just designed; it is defined to be easy. Microsoft could have made C++ easier to use, but declined to for some reason. They seemed to have intentionally wanted it to be not as easy (you fill in the explanation). C# is somewhat the fulfillment of making C++ easier. Without any further discussion, my impression is that VB .Net is the best choice for you, and that is what you have chosen. Note however that depending on what you need to do with the data, there might be other alternatives. You might want to provide more details os what you need to do and ask in a SQL Server group or forum or some other database group or forum. "SteveB" <steve@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EcSdnXyfw6CTVy_VnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi All, > > I have a number of databases which I would like to convert to VB or VC > using > Microsoft Visual Studio Express. I know I cannot just click a button and > have everything done automatically and that I would need to learn to > program. What I would like to know is which language would be best for a > novice. > > I've written a few bits of VBA and SQL but nothing spectacular, I have > done > a little basic programming way back in the days of BBC and Commodore > Basic's. > > So guys what would you suggest? > > Thanks > > Steve > |
My System Specs![]() |
![]() |
| Thread Tools | |
| |
Similar Threads | ||||
| Thread | Forum | |||
| dotnet framework | .NET General | |||
| Calling 32 bit COM+ from DotNet App on a 64 bit OS | .NET General | |||
| Looking for DotNet developer | .NET General | |||
| Dotnet 2.0 | .NET General | |||
| Re: dotNet and DTS problem | .NET General | |||