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Old 09-02-2008   #1 (permalink)
Charles Law


 
 

Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the dawn
of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in VS 2008
is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so isn't it about
time they were fixed?

I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover over
the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp fades. I
hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.

So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never to
be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.

Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?

Thanks for any help.

Charles



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Old 09-02-2008   #2 (permalink)
Family Tree Mike


 
 

Re: Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine after
the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS 2008, C#, on
Vista, hold the mayo...


"Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uiDVrSVDJHA.4176@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
>dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in VS
>2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so isn't it
>about time they were fixed?
>
> I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
> over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp fades.
> I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.
>
> So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never to
> be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.
>
> Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Charles
>
>
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Old 09-02-2008   #3 (permalink)
Charles Law


 
 

Re: Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

Hi Mike

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module level
variable

Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip

and then in the Form_Load event:

With m_Tooltip
.SetToolTip(MyButton, "My text.")
.ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
.ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Info
End With

I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click the
button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and slide
the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the tooltip.

Charles


"Family Tree Mike" <FamilyTreeMike@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OklxhZVDJHA.3576@xxxxxx
Quote:

> The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine after
> the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS 2008, C#,
> on Vista, hold the mayo...
>
>
> "Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uiDVrSVDJHA.4176@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
>>dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in
>>VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so isn't
>>it about time they were fixed?
>>
>> I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
>> over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
>> fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.
>>
>> So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never
>> to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.
>>
>> Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>

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Old 09-02-2008   #4 (permalink)
GS


 
 

Re: Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

I suspect most of us use a simpler tooltip
just set the mybutton.tootip property to whatever.. no tootiptitle used


I do have another tooptip for detailed info for the purpose of additonal
help at times. nonetheless never seem to have problem your described.
Window Xp, express vs 2005, 2008

"Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OxkT9nVDJHA.2292@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi Mike
>
> Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module level
> variable
>
> Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip
>
> and then in the Form_Load event:
>
> With m_Tooltip
> .SetToolTip(MyButton, "My text.")
> .ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
> .ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Info
> End With
>
> I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click the
> button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and slide
> the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the tooltip.
>
> Charles
>
>
> "Family Tree Mike" <FamilyTreeMike@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OklxhZVDJHA.3576@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine
after
Quote:
Quote:

> > the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS 2008,
C#,
Quote:
Quote:

> > on Vista, hold the mayo...
> >
> >
> > "Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:uiDVrSVDJHA.4176@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
> >>dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in
> >>VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so
isn't
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

> >>it about time they were fixed?
> >>
> >> I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
> >> over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
> >> fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.
> >>
> >> So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never
> >> to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help.
> >>
> >> Charles
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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Old 09-02-2008   #5 (permalink)
Family Tree Mike


 
 

Re: Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

Your code works fine for me. The button click event shows a message box.
While the message box is visible, there are no tooltips on my form, which
makes sense, as the message box is modal. When I dismiss the message box,
the tool tip shows up upon hovering over the button.

Sorry, I don't know what to tell ya!

"Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OxkT9nVDJHA.2292@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi Mike
>
> Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module level
> variable
>
> Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip
>
> and then in the Form_Load event:
>
> With m_Tooltip
> .SetToolTip(MyButton, "My text.")
> .ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
> .ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Info
> End With
>
> I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click the
> button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and slide
> the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the tooltip.
>
> Charles
>
>
> "Family Tree Mike" <FamilyTreeMike@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OklxhZVDJHA.3576@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine
>> after the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS
>> 2008, C#, on Vista, hold the mayo...
>>
>>
>> "Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uiDVrSVDJHA.4176@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
>>>dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in
>>>VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so
>>>isn't it about time they were fixed?
>>>
>>> I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
>>> over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
>>> fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.
>>>
>>> So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never
>>> to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-03-2008   #6 (permalink)
Pavel Minaev


 
 

Re: Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

"Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uiDVrSVDJHA.4176@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
>dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in VS
>2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so isn't it
>about time they were fixed?
I would suggest you to report it as a bug to VS Connect. For one thing,
you'll find out whether other people can validate it or not. And if they
can, and it annoys a sufficiently large number of people, they'll vote for
its importance, which is more likely to draw Microsoft's attention in the
end.


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Old 09-03-2008   #7 (permalink)
Charles Law


 
 

Re: Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

Hi Pavel

Thanks, I might do that then.

Cheers

Charles


"Pavel Minaev" <int19h@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OyKHqhYDJHA.4824@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uiDVrSVDJHA.4176@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
>>dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in
>>VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so isn't
>>it about time they were fixed?
>
> I would suggest you to report it as a bug to VS Connect. For one thing,
> you'll find out whether other people can validate it or not. And if they
> can, and it annoys a sufficiently large number of people, they'll vote for
> its importance, which is more likely to draw Microsoft's attention in the
> end.
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-03-2008   #8 (permalink)
Charles Law


 
 

Re: Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

It shouldn't, but does it matter that the form on which the button lives is
a modal form of a parent? When I ShowDialog for an instance of my child
form, I pass the parent as the owner.

Charles


"Family Tree Mike" <FamilyTreeMike@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ucc37vWDJHA.4816@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Your code works fine for me. The button click event shows a message box.
> While the message box is visible, there are no tooltips on my form, which
> makes sense, as the message box is modal. When I dismiss the message box,
> the tool tip shows up upon hovering over the button.
>
> Sorry, I don't know what to tell ya!
>
> "Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OxkT9nVDJHA.2292@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi Mike
>>
>> Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module level
>> variable
>>
>> Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip
>>
>> and then in the Form_Load event:
>>
>> With m_Tooltip
>> .SetToolTip(MyButton, "My text.")
>> .ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
>> .ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Info
>> End With
>>
>> I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click
>> the button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and
>> slide the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the
>> tooltip.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>> "Family Tree Mike" <FamilyTreeMike@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OklxhZVDJHA.3576@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine
>>> after the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS
>>> 2008, C#, on Vista, hold the mayo...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:uiDVrSVDJHA.4176@xxxxxx
>>>>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
>>>>dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip in
>>>>VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so
>>>>isn't it about time they were fixed?
>>>>
>>>> I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
>>>> over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
>>>> fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.
>>>>
>>>> So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip. Never
>>>> to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet again?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help.
>>>>
>>>> Charles
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-03-2008   #9 (permalink)
Charles Law


 
 

Re: Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

I would, but my System.Windows.Forms.Button doesn't have a Tooltip property.

Charles


"GS" <gsmsnews.microsoft.comGS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eLGadZWDJHA.3576@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I suspect most of us use a simpler tooltip
> just set the mybutton.tootip property to whatever.. no tootiptitle used
>
>
> I do have another tooptip for detailed info for the purpose of additonal
> help at times. nonetheless never seem to have problem your described.
> Window Xp, express vs 2005, 2008
>
> "Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OxkT9nVDJHA.2292@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi Mike
>>
>> Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module level
>> variable
>>
>> Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip
>>
>> and then in the Form_Load event:
>>
>> With m_Tooltip
>> .SetToolTip(MyButton, "My text.")
>> .ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
>> .ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Info
>> End With
>>
>> I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click
>> the
>> button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and
>> slide
>> the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the tooltip.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>> "Family Tree Mike" <FamilyTreeMike@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OklxhZVDJHA.3576@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine
> after
Quote:
Quote:

>> > the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS 2008,
> C#,
Quote:
Quote:

>> > on Vista, hold the mayo...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:uiDVrSVDJHA.4176@xxxxxx
>> >>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since the
>> >>dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip
>> >>in
>> >>VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so
> isn't
Quote:
Quote:

>> >>it about time they were fixed?
>> >>
>> >> I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I hover
>> >> over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
>> >> fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.
>> >>
>> >> So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip.
>> >> Never
>> >> to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet
>> >> again?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for any help.
>> >>
>> >> Charles
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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Old 09-03-2008   #10 (permalink)
Family Tree Mike


 
 

Re: Why is the Tooltip Bug Still not Fixed in VS2008?

I believe that what GS is describing is the standard process of draging the
tooltip control onto your form. This gives an additional "ToolTip on
ToolTip1" property on each control on your form. I too have never set the
tooltip object inside my form, but rather do it from the properties in the
designer.



"Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eZAfiOaDJHA.2292@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I would, but my System.Windows.Forms.Button doesn't have a Tooltip
>property.
>
> Charles
>
>
> "GS" <gsmsnews.microsoft.comGS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eLGadZWDJHA.3576@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>I suspect most of us use a simpler tooltip
>> just set the mybutton.tootip property to whatever.. no tootiptitle used
>>
>>
>> I do have another tooptip for detailed info for the purpose of additonal
>> help at times. nonetheless never seem to have problem your described.
>> Window Xp, express vs 2005, 2008
>>
>> "Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OxkT9nVDJHA.2292@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Hi Mike
>>>
>>> Thanks for the quick reply. I'm using VB in VS2008. I have a module
>>> level
>>> variable
>>>
>>> Private m_Tooltip As New Tooltip
>>>
>>> and then in the Form_Load event:
>>>
>>> With m_Tooltip
>>> .SetToolTip(MyButton, "My text.")
>>> .ToolTipTitle = "My Title"
>>> .ToolTipIcon = ToolTipIcon.Info
>>> End With
>>>
>>> I wave the mouse over the button and the tooltip appears. When I click
>>> the
>>> button I can't get the tooltip again. Even if I click the button and
>>> slide
>>> the mouse off, so the click event doesn't fire, I still lose the
>>> tooltip.
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
>>> "Family Tree Mike" <FamilyTreeMike@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:OklxhZVDJHA.3576@xxxxxx
>>> > The steps you outlined work fine for me. The tool tip shows up fine
>> after
Quote:

>>> > the process that the button executes is finished. I'm using VS 2008,
>> C#,
Quote:

>>> > on Vista, hold the mayo...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Charles Law" <blank@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> > news:uiDVrSVDJHA.4176@xxxxxx
>>> >>I have to take this personally now. Tooltips have been flakey since
>>> >>the
>>> >>dawn of .NET, but to still have to put up with a disappearing tooltip
>>> >>in
>>> >>VS 2008 is getting beyond a joke. Tooltips have always done this, so
>> isn't
Quote:

>>> >>it about time they were fixed?
>>> >>
>>> >> I have a tooltip that I assign to a button control on my form. I
>>> >> hover
>>> >> over the button and up pops the tooltip. I move away and the tooltp
>>> >> fades. I hover again, and back comes the tooltip. Great.
>>> >>
>>> >> So now I click the button, and the next time I hover: no tooltip.
>>> >> Never
>>> >> to be seen again. They did this in 2002, 2003 and 2005. And now 2008.
>>> >>
>>> >> Does anyone have a workaround, or will I have to roll my own yet
>>> >> again?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for any help.
>>> >>
>>> >> Charles
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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