suddenly have public network and no net access....

nelsonsdavis · 04-17-2008

Just recently, when I boot up cold, I have no net access. When I look at network and sharing center, I have listed a private and public network. The public network is new. If I click on view status for the public network and disable it, both networks disapear from the list. I then tell system to repair and the private network comes back on and all is well.

Why is a public network suddenly showing up and how do I stop this from happening?

By the way, once I get rid of the public network and reboot the public network does not show up again, but will show up again on a cold reboot, ie, shut system down, restart, and it's there.

Also, this morning, after going through all of this, I noticed the network notification icon in the taskbar now has a little blue thingie in it's lower right hand corner and I can't for the life of me figure out what that is/what it means.

All help welcome! I am running vista ultimate 64 bit on a desktop PC. No wireless on this PC, though the router is wireless.

Thanks!

**dmex** · 04-17-2008

Hello nelsonsdavis and welcome to VistaX64!

Can you provide a screenshot of your Network and Sharing Center? It should make it easyier to see whats going on and give you a better idea how to fix it also the blue thingy over the network icon shows you your local network internet status.

dmex

nelsonsdavis · 04-17-2008

Hey DMEX, I am having trouble pasting here. What's the procedure? I'm attaching a jpeg of the screen shot for now.

**dmex** · 04-17-2008

Hey nelsonsdavis,

You attached the picture to the post correctly but the [IMG] links need a web address to load the picture from like ImageShack® - Image Hosting , not your hard-drive

Im quite puzzled looking at this...Im trying to think what part of the system could cause the two profiles to be used on the one network adapter...The only thing that comes to mind is Windows Firewall with Advanced Security but im just not sure...

Instead of asking 1001 questions about your system are you able to upload a report from Belarc advisor since you allready have it installed?

nelsonsdavis · 04-17-2008

Hey, I"m not using windows firewall, am using COMODO. I'm leary to post Belarc since it will expose all my software licenses to the world. Again, this only happens on a cold boot, when I turn on in the morning. I can disable that pesty extra network, warm reboot to my hearts content, and it never again shows up - until I turn PC on in the morning for the first time.

**dmex** · 04-17-2008

Hey nelsonsdavis,

The Windows Firewall Service/Driver is still used by the system even if your using a 3rd paty product...I was aware your licence would be exposed I thought you would edit it out before posting it or I would have had to edit it for you... If you can edit the belarc html file in word or similar and remove the keys that would be very useful since I dont have the time to spare asking a million questions (its 2am here need sleep sometime)

Thanks
Steven

**Bubba** · 04-18-2008

Hey dmex, kind of a thought but more of a question all at the same time. He said he was using a wireless router. Is it possible one of his neighbors is picking up his signal? I have a wireless as does my across the street neighbor. (Mine is in the basement where I have metal bar joists that can hamper the signal). Anyways, when my wife is upstairs working on her laptop, she picked HIS signal up a couple of times instead of ours by mistake. Could that be causing his "dual network?" He is the private one since he is hard wired to the router, yet the router is still sending the wireless signal whether or not HE is receiving it. So if at anytime someone with a network card that receive his signal logs on suddenly he is providing a public network as well isn't he? Unless of course he has his router signal encrypted or is password protected the right term? Anyways, I know I never bothered to secure my "net". Part laziness and part ignorance. Ignorance in that I don't know how and laziness in that I haven't bothered to learn. Is my scenario possible or am i still just as my tag says a clueless newbie lol?

nelsonsdavis · 04-18-2008

Dimex, okay, here's the Belarc readout:

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nelsonsdavis · 04-18-2008

DIMEX, I saw that the Belarc advisor upload looked "funny". So, I am attaching it instead. It's a doc file.

Thanks. BTW, I use security on my wireless router and regularly check it to see the ip addresses assigned to devices to make sure no one is hacking me.

04-17-2008	#1 (permalink)
nelsonsdavis Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Ultimate x64 10 posts Rep Power: 4	suddenly have public network and no net access.... Just recently, when I boot up cold, I have no net access. When I look at network and sharing center, I have listed a private and public network. The public network is new. If I click on view status for the public network and disable it, both networks disapear from the list. I then tell system to repair and the private network comes back on and all is well. Why is a public network suddenly showing up and how do I stop this from happening? By the way, once I get rid of the public network and reboot the public network does not show up again, but will show up again on a cold reboot, ie, shut system down, restart, and it's there. Also, this morning, after going through all of this, I noticed the network notification icon in the taskbar now has a little blue thingie in it's lower right hand corner and I can't for the life of me figure out what that is/what it means. All help welcome! I am running vista ultimate 64 bit on a desktop PC. No wireless on this PC, though the router is wireless. Thanks!
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04-17-2008	#2 (permalink)
dmex ɠɛɐǨ Join Date: May 2007 Windows Vista™ Ultimate 2,370 posts Fremantle, Western Australia Rep Power: 110	Re: suddenly have public network and no net access.... Hello nelsonsdavis and welcome to VistaX64! Can you provide a screenshot of your Network and Sharing Center? It should make it easyier to see whats going on and give you a better idea how to fix it also the blue thingy over the network icon shows you your local network internet status. dmex
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04-17-2008	#4 (permalink)
dmex ɠɛɐǨ Join Date: May 2007 Windows Vista™ Ultimate 2,370 posts Fremantle, Western Australia Rep Power: 110	Re: suddenly have public network and no net access.... Hey nelsonsdavis, You attached the picture to the post correctly but the [IMG] links need a web address to load the picture from like ImageShack® - Image Hosting , not your hard-drive Im quite puzzled looking at this...Im trying to think what part of the system could cause the two profiles to be used on the one network adapter...The only thing that comes to mind is Windows Firewall with Advanced Security but im just not sure... Instead of asking 1001 questions about your system are you able to upload a report from Belarc advisor since you allready have it installed?
My System Specs

04-17-2008	#5 (permalink)
nelsonsdavis Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Ultimate x64 10 posts Rep Power: 4	Re: suddenly have public network and no net access.... Hey, I"m not using windows firewall, am using COMODO. I'm leary to post Belarc since it will expose all my software licenses to the world. Again, this only happens on a cold boot, when I turn on in the morning. I can disable that pesty extra network, warm reboot to my hearts content, and it never again shows up - until I turn PC on in the morning for the first time.
My System Specs

04-17-2008	#6 (permalink)
dmex ɠɛɐǨ Join Date: May 2007 Windows Vista™ Ultimate 2,370 posts Fremantle, Western Australia Rep Power: 110	Re: suddenly have public network and no net access.... Hey nelsonsdavis, The Windows Firewall Service/Driver is still used by the system even if your using a 3rd paty product...I was aware your licence would be exposed I thought you would edit it out before posting it or I would have had to edit it for you... If you can edit the belarc html file in word or similar and remove the keys that would be very useful since I dont have the time to spare asking a million questions (its 2am here need sleep sometime) Thanks Steven
My System Specs

04-18-2008	#7 (permalink)
Bubba Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Vista Ultimate 228 posts Rep Power: 0	Re: suddenly have public network and no net access.... Hey dmex, kind of a thought but more of a question all at the same time. He said he was using a wireless router. Is it possible one of his neighbors is picking up his signal? I have a wireless as does my across the street neighbor. (Mine is in the basement where I have metal bar joists that can hamper the signal). Anyways, when my wife is upstairs working on her laptop, she picked HIS signal up a couple of times instead of ours by mistake. Could that be causing his "dual network?" He is the private one since he is hard wired to the router, yet the router is still sending the wireless signal whether or not HE is receiving it. So if at anytime someone with a network card that receive his signal logs on suddenly he is providing a public network as well isn't he? Unless of course he has his router signal encrypted or is password protected the right term? Anyways, I know I never bothered to secure my "net". Part laziness and part ignorance. Ignorance in that I don't know how and laziness in that I haven't bothered to learn. Is my scenario possible or am i still just as my tag says a clueless newbie lol?
My System Specs

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nelsonsdavis Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Ultimate x64 10 posts Rep Power: 4	Re: suddenly have public network and no net access.... Dimex, okay, here's the Belarc readout: The license associated with the Belarc Advisor product allows for free personal use only. Use on multiple computers in a corporate, educational, military or government installation is prohibited. See the license agreement for details. The information on this page was created locally on your computer by the Belarc Advisor. Your computer profile was not sent to a web server. Click here for more info. About Belarc System Management Products Your Privacy In page Links: Installed Hotfixes Software Licenses Software Versions System Security Status CIS Benchmark Score Available only for Windows 2000, XP Pro, and 2003 Virus Protection Up-to-date Microsoft Security Updates Up-to-date Computer Profile Summary Computer Name: Dadsvista64pc (in FIELDNET) Profile Date: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:51:01 PM Advisor Version: 7.2x Windows Logon: dad Click here for Belarc's System Management products, for large and small companies. Operating System System Model Windows Vista Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 6001) No details available Processor a Main Circuit Board b 3.80 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory cache 4096 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5E Rev 1.xx Serial Number: MS1C7BB7KH00760 Bus Clock: 477 megahertz BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 0605 03/04/2008 Drives Memory Modules c,d 500.11 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity 361.47 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space ASUS DVD-E616A3T [CD-ROM drive] LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L [CD-ROM drive] 3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive] Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 1 Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 2 Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3 Generic STORAGE DEVICE USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 4 Patriot Memory USB Device [Hard drive] (4.00 GB) -- drive 5 ST3500320AS [Hard drive] (500.11 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 5QM0TW8L, rev SD15, SMART Status: Healthy 4096 Megabytes Installed Memory Slot 'DIMM0' has 2048 MB Slot 'DIMM1' is Empty Slot 'DIMM2' has 2048 MB Slot 'DIMM3' is Empty Local Drive Volumes c: (NTFS on drive 0) 500.11 GB 361.47 GB free Network Drives None detected Users (mouse over user name for details) Printers local user accounts last logon dad 4/18/2008 12:17:34 PM (admin) local system accounts Administrator 1/20/2008 10:26:25 PM (admin) Guest never Marks a disabled account; Marks a locked account Brother HL-2170W series on BRW001C26BE3C2A EPSON Stylus Photo R320 Series on LPT1: Microsoft Shared Fax Driver on SHRFAX: Microsoft XPS Document Writer on XPSPort: PDFCreator on PDFCreator: Controllers Display Standard floppy disk controller ATA Channel 0 [Controller] ATA Channel 1 [Controller] Intel(R) ICH9 SATA AHCI Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT [Display adapter] Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (22.0"vis, s/n H9LPC03246, December 2007) Bus Adapters Multimedia Microsoft iSCSI Initiator Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2934 Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2935 Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2936 Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2937 Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2938 Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2939 Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293A Intel(R) ICH9 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 293C SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio Communications Other Devices isatap.{00396148-0CF6-4622-BF7C-5A392F5256B8} Marvell Yukon 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller primary Auto IP Address: 192.168.0.100 / 24 Gateway: 192.168.0.1 Dhcp Server: 192.168.0.1 Physical Address: 00:1E:8C:41:58:74 Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface Networking Dns Server: 192.168.0.1 VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller HID-compliant consumer control device HID-compliant device (3x) USB Human Interface Device (2x) Logitech HID-Compliant Keyboard PS/2 Keyboard Logitech HID-compliant Cordless Mouse USB Composite Device USB Mass Storage Device (2x) USB Root Hub (8x) Generic volume shadow copy Patriot Memory STORAGE DEVICE (4x) WSD Print Device Virus Protection [Back to Top] AVG 7.5.524 Version 7.5.524 Realtime File Scanning On Missing Microsoft Security Hotfixes [Back to Top] All required security hotfixes (using the 04/08/2008 Microsoft Security Bulletin Summary) have been installed. Installed Microsoft Hotfixes [Back to Top] MSXML4SP2 KB936181 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB941833 on 4/9/2008 (details...) Office Accounting 2008 KB949426[SP] on 4/9/2008 (details...) Office Outlook 2003 KB923618[SP] on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB943649 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB945185 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB945432 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB947355 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB949044 on 4/9/2008 (details...) Windows Vista KB905866 on 4/8/2008 (details...) KB931133 WINDOWS DREAMSCENE CONTENT on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB935509 on 1/20/2008 (details...) KB937287 on 1/20/2008 (details...) Windows Vista (continued) KB938371 on 4/8/2008 (details...) KB941236 WINDOWS DREAMSCENE CONTENT on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB941693 on 4/8/2008 (details...) KB947864 on 4/8/2008 (details...) KB948590 on 4/8/2008 (details...) KB948881 on 4/8/2008 (details...) Word 2002 KB873379 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB911701 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB913471 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB914796 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB920816 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB943957 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB944423 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB946216 on 4/9/2008 (details...) KB947866 on 4/9/2008 (details...) Click here to see all available Microsoft security hotfixes for this computer. Marks a security hotfix (using the 04/08/2008 Microsoft Security Bulletin Summary) Marks a security hotFix that fails verification (a security vulnerability) Marks a hotfix that verifies correctly Marks a hotfix that fails verification (note that failing hotfixes need to be reinstalled) Unmarked hotfixes lack the data to allow verification Click here for Belarc's System Management products, for large and small companies. Software Licenses [Back to Top] Belarc - Advisor 09857ec1 Microsoft - Internet Explorer Microsoft - Money 2003 Microsoft - Office 2000 SR-1 Disc 2 Microsoft - Office 2000 SR-1 Professional Microsoft - Office Outlook 2003 Microsoft - Picture It! Photo 7.0 Microsoft - Windows Vista Ultimate (x64) Microsoft - Word 2002 Microsoft - Works 7.0 Microsoft - Works Suite 2003 Valve - Steam 1 Software Versions (mouse over * for details, click * for location) [Back to Top] Adobe Reader Version 8.1.0.2007051100 * AI Suite v1.03.13 * Analog Devices - SoundMAX BlackHawk Version 1.00.0017 * Analog Devices, Inc. - SMax4PNP Application Version 6,1,32,130 * Andrea Electronics Corporation - APO Access Service (64-bit) Version 1.0.64.7 * Apple Inc. - Bonjour Version 1,0,4,12 * Apple Inc. - iTunes Version 7.6.2.9 * Apple Inc. - QuickTime QuickTime 7.4.5 * Apple Mobile Device Service Version 1, 14, 0, 0 * Apple Software Update Version 2.1.0.110 * Banner Blue Software Incorporated - Microsoft Organization Chart Version 2,0,0,1016 * Belarc, Inc. - Advisor Version 7.2x * brother brstswnd Version 3, 4, 7, 1 * COMODO Firewall Pro Version 3.0.18.0 * Comodo Firewall Version 2.4.0.0 * ERUNT * ERUNT AutoBackup * Genigraphics® - GraphicsLink(TM) for Windows Version 9.0 * Google Desktop Version 5.7.802.22438 * Google Earth Version 4.2.205.5730 * Google Inc. - Gmail Version 1.0.25.0 * Google Inc. - Picasa Version 2.7.0 * Google Updater Version 2.2.824.5515.beta * GoogleToolbarNotifier Version 2, 0, 301, 1654 * GRISOFT, s.r.o. - AVG 7.5 Anti-Virus System Version 7.5.0.420 * GRISOFT, s.r.o. - AVG Anti-Virus system Version 7.5.0.522 * Hewlett-Packard Company - LightScribe Version 1.10.13.1 * hl2.exe * Intel Corporation - RAID Monitor Version 7.5.0.1017 * Intel(R) Corporation - Uninstset Installation Utility Version 0, 0, 0, 0 * Intel(R) Matrix Storage Console Version 7.5.0.1017 * Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE SE 106 * Logitech Desktop Messenger Version 2.52.21 * Logitech Desktop Messenger Version 2.52.21.16 * Logitech SetPoint Version 4.00.121 * Macromedia, Inc. - Shockwave Flash Version 8,0,22,0 * Microsoft (R) Windows Script Host Version 5.7.0.6000 * Microsoft - Envelope Manager - Direct Mail Manager Version 2.02.0044 * Microsoft Application Error Reporting Version 10.0.2609 * Microsoft Application Error Reporting Version 12.0.6010.5000 * Microsoft Clip Gallery Version 5.2.01.0405 * Microsoft Clip Organizer Version 10.0.6308 * Microsoft Clip Organizer Version 11.0.8164 * Microsoft Corporation - digital locker assistant Version 1.6.5 * Microsoft Corporation - Internet Explorer Version 7.00.6000.16386 * Microsoft Corporation - Office Accounting Version 3.0.8627.1 * Microsoft Corporation - Office Source Engine Version 11.0.5525 * Microsoft Corporation - SelfCert Version 11.0.8164 * Microsoft Corporation - Windows Installer - Unicode Version 4.0.6000.16386 * Microsoft Corporation - Windows Version 1.0.0.1 * Microsoft Map Version 8.00.00.01621 * Microsoft Money Version 11.00.0716 * Microsoft Office 2000 Small Business Edition Version 9.0.1423 * Microsoft Office 2000 Version 9.0.6627 * Microsoft Office 2003 Version 11.0.8164 * Microsoft Office Document Imaging Version 1.03.2349.1 * Microsoft Office Document Imaging Version 11.0.8166.2 * Microsoft Office InfoPath Version 11.0.8161 * Microsoft Office Outlook Version 11.0.8206 * Microsoft Office Picture Manager Version 11.0.8161 * Microsoft Office Save My Settings/Profile Wizard Version 11.0.8161 * Microsoft Office XP Version 10.0.6838 * Microsoft Photo Editor Version 10.0 * Microsoft Picture It! 7.0 Version 7.00.0716.0 * Microsoft PowerPoint for Windows Version 9.0.6620 * Microsoft Snapshot Viewer Application Version 9.0.0.2402 * Microsoft SQL Server Version 9.00.3042.00 * Microsoft® .NET Framework Version 2.0.50727.1434 * Microsoft® .NET Framework Version 3.0.4506.648 * Microsoft® Access Version 9.0.6620 * Microsoft® Business Planner for UK and Australia Version 1.0 * Microsoft® Business Planner Version 1, 0, 0, 1 * Microsoft® Corporation - Update Detection Module Version 7.00.0716.0 * Microsoft® NetShow Version 3.01.0.2954 * Microsoft® Publisher 2000 Version 6.0 Version 6.0 * Microsoft® Query Version 9.00.4430 * Microsoft® Schedule+ for Windows 95(TM) Version 7.5 * Microsoft® Visual Studio .NET Version 7.00.9466 * Microsoft® Works 7.0 Version 7.02.0710.1 * Mozilla Corporation - Firefox Version 2.0.0.14 * MSBP_STB.EXE * Nero AG - Cover Designer Version 2, 10, 1, 1 * Nero BackItUp Version 2, 10, 5, 1 * Nero Burning ROM Version 7, 10, 1, 2 * Nero BurnRights Version 2.1.0.11 * Nero CD - DVD Speed Version 4, 7, 7, 4 * Nero DriveSpeed Version 3, 0, 11, 2 * Nero Home Version 2,0,16,0 * Nero InfoTool Version 4, 4, 3, 0 * Nero Installer Version 1, 6, 48, 7 * Nero MediaHome Version 2,5,16,0 * Nero Mobile Version 1.4.0.9 * Nero Online-Upgrade Version 7.10.1.3 * Nero PhotoSnap image editor Version 1, 2, 0, 25 * Nero Photosnap Viewer Version 1, 2, 0, 25 * Nero Recode 2 Version 2, 5, 6, 0 * Nero ShowTime Version 3, 10, 1, 0 * Nero StartSmart Version 3, 10, 1, 3 * Nero Vision Version 4,9,7,6 * NTREGOPT * NVIDIA Control Panel Version 1.5.2000.01 * NVIDIA Driver Helper Service, Version 174.74 Version 7.15.11.7474 * NVIDIA nTune Version 5.05.54 * pdfforge pdfforge.org - PDFCreator Version 0.09.0005 * pdfforge pdfforge.org - TransTool Version 3.00 * pdfforge.org - PDFCreator Version 3.3.0.1 * piolch Module Version 1, 0, 0, 1 * Piriform Ltd - CCleaner Version 2, 6, 0, 567 * RealNetworks, Inc. - RealPlayer (32-bit) Version 6.0.12.1662 * RealNetworks, Inc. - RealPlayer (32-bit) Version 7.0.0.3384 * Safer Networking Limited - Secure Shredder Version 1.9.0.0 * Safer Networking Limited - Spybot - Search & Destroy Version 1, 5, 2, 0 * Safer Networking Limited - SpyBot-S&D Version 1, 5, 2, 0 * SEIKO EPSON CORPORATION - SETUP APPLICATION Version 6.00 * Sonic Focus Effects Version 1.0.0.17 * Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U5 Version 6.0.50.13 * The Audacity Team - Audacity® Version 1,3,4,0 * User's Guides in PDF format * Valve Corporation - Steam Client Service Version 1, 0, 0, 1 * Valve Corporation - Steam Version 1.0.0.0 * * Click to see where software is installed. a. Megahertz measurement may be inaccurate if other programs were busy during last analysis. b. Data may be transferred on the bus at one, two, or four times the Bus Clock rate. c. Memory slot contents may not add up to Installed Memory if some memory is not recognized by Windows. d. Memory slot contents is reported by the motherboard BIOS. Contact system vendor if slot contents are wrong. e. This may be the manufacturer's factory installed product key rather than yours. Copyright 2000-7, Belarc, Inc. All rights reserved. Legal notice. U.S. Patents 6085229, 5665951 and Patents pending.
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