OK. So I've been hearing some things about this off and on. but remember the Athlon 64 FX.. that used to be the best of the best until the Core 2 Duo came out and wiped the floor with it. But read this...

Controversial news that AMD will be releasing a performance quad core CPU under the name Phenom FX. Two models are supposedly in the mix named the FX-80 clocked at 4GHz, and the FX-82 clocked at 4.4GHz.



The news that sparked the debate which is now spread across many sites now, that a site called Reviewage in the UK had a screenie of CPU-Z running a 45nm Phenom @ 4GHz. Reviewage claim they spotted the image on a UK computer store website.

Even after the original link provided was broken (which also brought up thoughts that this is fake). Now reviewage have posted once again the picture of the CPU-Z screenie
here

They also claim that the FX-80 outperforms an Intel Kentsfield clocked @ 5GHz, but this still a rumor has not yet been proven. However the screenshot of the 4GHz Phenom leaves many wonder, has someone faked a CPU-Z... or does AMD in fact have a hand their yet to deal in their CPU battle with Intel?

If you have found anymore news about this, or have something you would like to share/add, then please!

Oops. I forgot to give my input..

I also personally think that this is somewhat likely. as look what the 65-45nm did for Intel. I could very much see this happening for AMD also, not to mention they've paired up and have been working with IBM. who are currently on stage to release the Power7, an Octo-core CPU running at 4.0 GHz for there servers. I'm not saying that AMD will be releasing a 4.4 GHz CPU that will KILL everything else out. but I can very well see them releasing something in this area that could do some damage. After all the latest Athlon FX-74 was a Dual 3.0 GHz unlocked Multiplier that was a fast fast CPU. I could see them releasing a Deneb FX-82 clocked at 3.6 Ghz or something that could easily reach 4.0 GHz speeds and above.


HMMM.. just in time for Nehalem maybe. Not sure. But we wont know, Til we know. that is how this business goes.

I certainly believe a Pheonom can outperform a Kentsfield, just so long as the measurements happen to be memory bandwidth, and/or in an SMP configuration.

Besides that, all a CPU-Z screenie really proves is that the computer was able to boot into Windows and not crash long enough to start CPU-Z and obtain a screenshot. Looking at the linked page, I don't see anything showing what the config was, or what the test conditions were, or what they were doing. Just a screenie.

You'll pardon the cynicism, and I sincerely do not with to start a partisan flame war by denigrating someone's choice... But based on AMD's recent performance history I'll believe it when real people are able to buy them and achieve similar results.

oh no offense taken. I'm right with you on that. I personally don't know what to think. I'm saying it's very well possible. but I'm not saying I think it's completely true.

Also I've only used AMD once. and I'm a proud Intel user, so ur not bashing my preference or anything. I just thought it was an interesting read.

thats all.

Agreed that it's an interesting read/idea.

Regarding the extra sensitivity: It's a bit different here, but at a lot of sites merely mentioning either maker amounts to an invitation to a flame war. So it's become a habit to be careful about my wording on this stuff

ya I don't blame you.. I'm not one of those stupid kids sitting around waiting to flame and get into fights online.. cuz what good do they cause.. nothing.

I see what you mean, I'm careful also. or try to be sometimes.

I'd really, really like to see AMD get competitive again, but I doubt they've developed a 4GHz Phenom. 2GHz jumps in clock speed just isn't AMD's style. In all their history they've never come out with such a massive jump in clock speed... lol, usually the AMD guys have to suffice with a 33MHz jump.

lol ya i know huh.. they'd get intel to lower some prices a little. Just like ATI did to Nvidia this round.

Well. I know thats a big jump for them. and that a more realistic release would be like 3.0 GHz, and a 3.33 or 3.4 GHz release.. and even then thats pushing it.. I think that sounds possible. and that those chips could then do a 4.0 GHz overclock with some good cooling. but I'm pretty sure they don't have anything thats default stock speed is 4.0 GHz

but if you didn't see where I wrote that AMD has been working with IBM with there latest CPU research. then look up the IBM Power7 it's an Octo-core Server CPU that runs all cores stock at 4.0 GHz.. it's very crazy powerful. they've developed some cool stuff. and I could see them giving AMD some info and access to there finding and research. so yes it's possible. will AMD release something like that. probably not. If they did it would totally kill there current X3 line, that they Claim is just sooo good. then it would vanish and they'd have to hope people'd buy there x4's.

I saw where you "wrote" AMD was working with IBM, I just missed the part where you "linked" AMD was working with IBM.

Also, keep in mind, if all AMD can do is put out a cpu that's capable of beating Wolfdale and Kentsfield chips, then AMD has already lost. Noticeably absent is the AMD comparison vs Nehalem.

No point in bothering the press to say AMD has crushed an Intel chip Intel has itself already crushed.... right?

well yes and no.. the AMD chips already run on a very similar to Nehalem system.. they don't use 1600 MHz FSB and such like intel does.. look at a screeny of someone overclocking there Phenom or a Athlon FX or something and look at the FSB speed.
like this.
http://www.overclock.net/attachment....0&d=1222246696

AMD already is running on a system similar to the way Nehalem will be working. thats why they don'y everclock as well as intels do. and acording to what I've read, and heard. Nehalem are not going to be nice to overclockers.. so it will be interesting to see what directions some of the Enthusiasts take. ya know. and hold on and I'll get that "Link" or info your asking about. lol also I've read that AMD shares info and research wth, and gets helped with R&D Work by IBM.. so i don't know.