Vista - Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1)

**archie123** · 10-15-2009

can i be frank.............and dont take this the wrong way............but this all seems like alot of messing around for no reason , what are you doing it for? what have you tested your new settings with? sandra? everest? did your memory bandwidth increase? was the increase significant (im guessing it'll be the same

) what do you use your pc for mate?

and setting the timings tighter than the recommended / tested is a minefield and is bound to blue screen

, you may get away with overclocking the ram and slackening the timings off a little but upping them?? throw as much voltage at that as you like it wont make it stable

and why are you running at 2T? is it a limitation of your chipset?

where did you hear that syncronous mode (1:1) was faster than asynchronous? the only advantage is less heat and less power consumption , its not faster , it is however less hassle when overclocking as in asynchronous mode you may need to pump more voltage into the northbridge or fsb

you can run that cpu at at least 3 gig with very little effort and very little if any increase in the v core ,

**panais** · 10-16-2009

Quote: Originally Posted by archie123

can i be frank.............and dont take this the wrong way............but this all seems like alot of messing around for no reason , what are you doing it for? what have you tested your new settings with? sandra? everest? did your memory bandwidth increase? was the increase significant (im guessing it'll be the same

) what do you use your pc for mate?

and setting the timings tighter than the recommended / tested is a minefield and is bound to blue screen

, you may get away with overclocking the ram and slackening the timings off a little but upping them?? throw as much voltage at that as you like it wont make it stable

and why are you running at 2T? is it a limitation of your chipset?

where did you hear that syncronous mode (1:1) was faster than asynchronous? the only advantage is less heat and less power consumption , its not faster , it is however less hassle when overclocking as in asynchronous mode you may need to pump more voltage into the northbridge or fsb

you can run that cpu at at least 3 gig with very little effort and very little if any increase in the v core ,

What exactly is the T2?
Which T is better?
How do i change it?(step by step please)
What are the benefits of it?
Thanks.

**Dwarf** · 10-16-2009

You might find this article informative. All changes to settings are made in the BIOS, but not all BIOSes support changing of all parameters.

Understanding RAM Timings | Hardware Secrets

**stoneys-nutz** · 10-16-2009

Hello panais,
Take a look here, it's a beginners guide to over clocking, read through all the sections and you will have a better understanding of what overclocking is all about.

Beginners Guides: Overclocking the CPU, Motherboard and Memory - PCSTATS.com

It seems like somebody suggests something and you go charging off in that direction not fully knowing or understanding what you are doing, or what it will achieve, so you are just going around in circles.

Read the article, and anything else you can find, then decide what you want to achieve by overclocking and stick to that.

Most machines these days run fine and well without overclocking, that started when we were running 300 Mhz CPU's or less, so it's less relevant today, (IMO).

Also be aware that overclocking will reduce the life of your PC.
Sorry to be so brutal but i think you need to take a step back, make a plan and stick to it.
Anyhoo, thats my two bobs worth, all the best with the overclocking.

**archie123** · 10-16-2009

T1 is faster ..... more bandwidth , but less stable , if your not overclocking T1 is the way forward , if you have no option to alter the timing in your advanced bios options then your chipset doesnt support it , some dont.

**skunksmash** · 10-17-2009

Quote: Originally Posted by archie123

T1 is faster ..... more bandwidth , but less stable , if your not overclocking T1 is the way forward , if you have no option to alter the timing in your advanced bios options then your chipset doesnt support it , some dont.

i'd be VERY surprised if he's able to run (1-T) without any other adjustments...

forget the RAM timings & settings for a minute, just concentrate on the (FSB) & the (VCORE), & the other settings will follow suit....once your happy with your CPU clocks, then you can play with RAM settings...

**archie123** · 10-17-2009

Quote: Originally Posted by skunksmash

Quote: Originally Posted by archie123

T1 is faster ..... more bandwidth , but less stable , if your not overclocking T1 is the way forward , if you have no option to alter the timing in your advanced bios options then your chipset doesnt support it , some dont.

i'd be VERY surprised if he's able to run (1-T) without any other adjustments...

forget the RAM timings & settings for a minute, just concentrate on the (FSB) & the (VCORE), & the other settings will follow suit....once your happy with your CPU clocks, then you can play with RAM settings...

i know , if he overclocks , but he said he isnt overclocking , he said hes just running at stock thats why 1T will be far better , i mentioned if hes overclocking 1T wouldnt be an option , its too fiddly

i must be misreading this thread as i thought he just wanted to run a 1:1 ram:cpu ratio with no OC , i did wonder why everyone was offering overclocking advice he he :P

Im going for a lie down now

**skunksmash** · 10-17-2009

Quote: Originally Posted by archie123

Quote: Originally Posted by skunksmash

Quote: Originally Posted by archie123

T1 is faster ..... more bandwidth , but less stable , if your not overclocking T1 is the way forward , if you have no option to alter the timing in your advanced bios options then your chipset doesnt support it , some dont.

i'd be VERY surprised if he's able to run (1-T) without any other adjustments...

forget the RAM timings & settings for a minute, just concentrate on the (FSB) & the (VCORE), & the other settings will follow suit....once your happy with your CPU clocks, then you can play with RAM settings...

i know , if he overclocks , but he said he isnt overclocking , he said hes just running at stock thats why 1T will be far better , i mentioned if hes overclocking 1T wouldnt be an option , its too fiddly

i must be misreading this thread as i thought he just wanted to run a 1:1 ram:cpu ratio with no OC , i did wonder why everyone was offering overclocking advice he he :P

Im going for a lie down now

lol....now ive re read it it seems he's not looking to OC

, i think its me who needs a lie down.

but TBH, there's no need to touch anything in the ''Advanced options'' of the BIOS if your not OCing, auto settings will be fine.

**panais** · 10-23-2009

I overclocked my...
Q6600 2.40GHz @ 3.20GHz

400X8 1.32500V Vcore 1316
and my...

HyperX 800MHz 5-5-5-15 @ 960MHz 5-5-5-15
DDR18V 2.176V 2.40B +0.35V
For stress/testing i start-->eset smart security full scan,start downloading programs and playing the wolfenstein 2009 in full specs 1080p etc (all at the same time) for 1 hour and everything works fine.
Then i just LOWER the voltages,RAM +0.30v,CPU 1.31875V
and again for stress/testing all the above.for 1 hour and everything works fine.
So the question is...
Is it good/better to set the lowest/minimum possible voltages when overclocking?

**stoneys-nutz** · 10-23-2009

Less voltage means less heat, so yes, set it at the lowest it will run at, or just set it to the manufacturers recommended settings.
Either is good.

10-15-2009	#11 (permalink)
archie123 Vista Home Premium 64bit SP2 1,745 posts	Re: Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1) can i be frank.............and dont take this the wrong way............but this all seems like alot of messing around for no reason , what are you doing it for? what have you tested your new settings with? sandra? everest? did your memory bandwidth increase? was the increase significant (im guessing it'll be the same ) what do you use your pc for mate? and setting the timings tighter than the recommended / tested is a minefield and is bound to blue screen , you may get away with overclocking the ram and slackening the timings off a little but upping them?? throw as much voltage at that as you like it wont make it stable and why are you running at 2T? is it a limitation of your chipset? where did you hear that syncronous mode (1:1) was faster than asynchronous? the only advantage is less heat and less power consumption , its not faster , it is however less hassle when overclocking as in asynchronous mode you may need to pump more voltage into the northbridge or fsb you can run that cpu at at least 3 gig with very little effort and very little if any increase in the v core ,
My System Specs

10-16-2009	#12 (permalink)
panais Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 323 posts	Re: Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1) Quote: Originally Posted by archie123 can i be frank.............and dont take this the wrong way............but this all seems like alot of messing around for no reason , what are you doing it for? what have you tested your new settings with? sandra? everest? did your memory bandwidth increase? was the increase significant (im guessing it'll be the same ) what do you use your pc for mate? and setting the timings tighter than the recommended / tested is a minefield and is bound to blue screen , you may get away with overclocking the ram and slackening the timings off a little but upping them?? throw as much voltage at that as you like it wont make it stable and why are you running at 2T? is it a limitation of your chipset? where did you hear that syncronous mode (1:1) was faster than asynchronous? the only advantage is less heat and less power consumption , its not faster , it is however less hassle when overclocking as in asynchronous mode you may need to pump more voltage into the northbridge or fsb you can run that cpu at at least 3 gig with very little effort and very little if any increase in the v core , What exactly is the T2? Which T is better? How do i change it?(step by step please) What are the benefits of it? Thanks.
My System Specs

10-16-2009	#13 (permalink)
Dwarf Vista Home Premium 32-bit & Vista Ultimate 64-bit both Service Pack 2 W7 Pro RTM 7600 32 & 64 2,197 posts	Re: Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1) You might find this article informative. All changes to settings are made in the BIOS, but not all BIOSes support changing of all parameters. Understanding RAM Timings \| Hardware Secrets
My System Specs

10-16-2009	#14 (permalink)
stoneys-nutz Vista Ultimate x64, SP2 1,552 posts	Re: Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1) Hello panais, Take a look here, it's a beginners guide to over clocking, read through all the sections and you will have a better understanding of what overclocking is all about. Beginners Guides: Overclocking the CPU, Motherboard and Memory - PCSTATS.com It seems like somebody suggests something and you go charging off in that direction not fully knowing or understanding what you are doing, or what it will achieve, so you are just going around in circles. Read the article, and anything else you can find, then decide what you want to achieve by overclocking and stick to that. Most machines these days run fine and well without overclocking, that started when we were running 300 Mhz CPU's or less, so it's less relevant today, (IMO). Also be aware that overclocking will reduce the life of your PC. Sorry to be so brutal but i think you need to take a step back, make a plan and stick to it. Anyhoo, thats my two bobs worth, all the best with the overclocking.
My System Specs

10-16-2009	#15 (permalink)
archie123 Vista Home Premium 64bit SP2 1,745 posts	Re: Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1) T1 is faster ..... more bandwidth , but less stable , if your not overclocking T1 is the way forward , if you have no option to alter the timing in your advanced bios options then your chipset doesnt support it , some dont.
My System Specs

10-17-2009	#16 (permalink)
skunksmash ultimate 64 SP1 2,187 posts	Re: Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1) Quote: Originally Posted by archie123 T1 is faster ..... more bandwidth , but less stable , if your not overclocking T1 is the way forward , if you have no option to alter the timing in your advanced bios options then your chipset doesnt support it , some dont. i'd be VERY surprised if he's able to run (1-T) without any other adjustments... forget the RAM timings & settings for a minute, just concentrate on the (FSB) & the (VCORE), & the other settings will follow suit....once your happy with your CPU clocks, then you can play with RAM settings...
My System Specs

10-17-2009	#17 (permalink)
archie123 Vista Home Premium 64bit SP2 1,745 posts	Re: Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1) Quote: Originally Posted by skunksmash Quote: Originally Posted by archie123 T1 is faster ..... more bandwidth , but less stable , if your not overclocking T1 is the way forward , if you have no option to alter the timing in your advanced bios options then your chipset doesnt support it , some dont. i'd be VERY surprised if he's able to run (1-T) without any other adjustments... forget the RAM timings & settings for a minute, just concentrate on the (FSB) & the (VCORE), & the other settings will follow suit....once your happy with your CPU clocks, then you can play with RAM settings... i know , if he overclocks , but he said he isnt overclocking , he said hes just running at stock thats why 1T will be far better , i mentioned if hes overclocking 1T wouldnt be an option , its too fiddly i must be misreading this thread as i thought he just wanted to run a 1:1 ram:cpu ratio with no OC , i did wonder why everyone was offering overclocking advice he he :P Im going for a lie down now
My System Specs

10-17-2009	#18 (permalink)
skunksmash ultimate 64 SP1 2,187 posts	Re: Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1) Quote: Originally Posted by archie123 Quote: Originally Posted by skunksmash Quote: Originally Posted by archie123 T1 is faster ..... more bandwidth , but less stable , if your not overclocking T1 is the way forward , if you have no option to alter the timing in your advanced bios options then your chipset doesnt support it , some dont. i'd be VERY surprised if he's able to run (1-T) without any other adjustments... forget the RAM timings & settings for a minute, just concentrate on the (FSB) & the (VCORE), & the other settings will follow suit....once your happy with your CPU clocks, then you can play with RAM settings... i know , if he overclocks , but he said he isnt overclocking , he said hes just running at stock thats why 1T will be far better , i mentioned if hes overclocking 1T wouldnt be an option , its too fiddly i must be misreading this thread as i thought he just wanted to run a 1:1 ram:cpu ratio with no OC , i did wonder why everyone was offering overclocking advice he he :P Im going for a lie down now lol....now ive re read it it seems he's not looking to OC , i think its me who needs a lie down. but TBH, there's no need to touch anything in the ''Advanced options'' of the BIOS if your not OCing, auto settings will be fine.
My System Specs

10-23-2009	#19 (permalink)
panais Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit 323 posts	Re: Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1) I overclocked my... Q6600 2.40GHz @ 3.20GHz 400X8 1.32500V Vcore 1316 and my... HyperX 800MHz 5-5-5-15 @ 960MHz 5-5-5-15 DDR18V 2.176V 2.40B +0.35V For stress/testing i start-->eset smart security full scan,start downloading programs and playing the wolfenstein 2009 in full specs 1080p etc (all at the same time) for 1 hour and everything works fine. Then i just LOWER the voltages,RAM +0.30v,CPU 1.31875V and again for stress/testing all the above.for 1 hour and everything works fine. So the question is... Is it good/better to set the lowest/minimum possible voltages when overclocking? Last edited by panais; 10-23-2009 at 06:34 AM..
My System Specs

10-23-2009	#20 (permalink)
stoneys-nutz Vista Ultimate x64, SP2 1,552 posts	Re: Is that overclocking?(the famous 1:1) Less voltage means less heat, so yes, set it at the lowest it will run at, or just set it to the manufacturers recommended settings. Either is good.
My System Specs

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