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Old 06-09-2006   #1 (permalink)
Guy Thomas


 
 

Monad / PowerShell / Exchange 2007

Monad / PowerShell / Exchange 2007

In Exchange 2007 beta, if I replace Monad with PowerShell, then the Exchange
specific commands don't appear to work.

Eg Get-Mailbox. (get-service works fine)



My question is: have I missed a step?



Supplementary question, if this behaviour is 'by design' what will be the
future? Will Monad and PowerShell diverge rather than converge?



Guy Thomas



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-09-2006   #2 (permalink)
Andrew Watt [MVP]


 
 

Re: Monad / PowerShell / Exchange 2007

Guy,

The following is my surmise from various fragments of information but
I think it's close to the truth.

Exchange Beta 2 will have made the switch from "Monad" terminology and
filenaming to the PowerShell equivalent by the time that Beta 2 is
released. So, once Exchange 2007 has caught up "everybody" will use
PowerShell terminology etc.

What you are seeing is simply a transitional phase where the
now-6-or-so-months-old Exchange Beta 1 was created before "core"
PowerShell transitioned from Monad.

In addition, as became clear from the Exchange 2007 webcasts a few
weeks back, there are still significant changes being made in the
Exchange-specific cmdlets.

As far as I am aware, you shouldn't expect the hybrid PowerShell/Monad
setup to work. In an unspecified time period when Exchange 2007 Beta 2
is released you should be in a PowerShell world where (hopefully)
everything plays nicely together.

I hope that helps.

Andrew Watt MVP

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:24:15 +0100, "Guy Thomas"
<guy@computerperformance.co.uk> wrote:

>Monad / PowerShell / Exchange 2007
>
>In Exchange 2007 beta, if I replace Monad with PowerShell, then the Exchange
>specific commands don't appear to work.
>
>Eg Get-Mailbox. (get-service works fine)
>
>
>
>My question is: have I missed a step?
>
>
>
>Supplementary question, if this behaviour is 'by design' what will be the
>future? Will Monad and PowerShell diverge rather than converge?
>
>
>
>Guy Thomas

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-09-2006   #3 (permalink)
Guy Thomas


 
 

Re: Monad / PowerShell / Exchange 2007

Dear Andrew

Not only was your answer clear, but also it was just what I wanted to hear.

Thank you

Guy

"Andrew Watt [MVP]" <SVGDeveloper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:gm0j829atc0gbresd2jevdgfsu65kp2tn3@4ax.com...
> Guy,
>
> The following is my surmise from various fragments of information but
> I think it's close to the truth.
>
> Exchange Beta 2 will have made the switch from "Monad" terminology and
> filenaming to the PowerShell equivalent by the time that Beta 2 is
> released. So, once Exchange 2007 has caught up "everybody" will use
> PowerShell terminology etc.
>
> What you are seeing is simply a transitional phase where the
> now-6-or-so-months-old Exchange Beta 1 was created before "core"
> PowerShell transitioned from Monad.
>
> In addition, as became clear from the Exchange 2007 webcasts a few
> weeks back, there are still significant changes being made in the
> Exchange-specific cmdlets.
>
> As far as I am aware, you shouldn't expect the hybrid PowerShell/Monad
> setup to work. In an unspecified time period when Exchange 2007 Beta 2
> is released you should be in a PowerShell world where (hopefully)
> everything plays nicely together.
>
> I hope that helps.
>
> Andrew Watt MVP
>
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:24:15 +0100, "Guy Thomas"
> <guy@computerperformance.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Monad / PowerShell / Exchange 2007
>>
>>In Exchange 2007 beta, if I replace Monad with PowerShell, then the
>>Exchange
>>specific commands don't appear to work.
>>
>>Eg Get-Mailbox. (get-service works fine)
>>
>>
>>
>>My question is: have I missed a step?
>>
>>
>>
>>Supplementary question, if this behaviour is 'by design' what will be the
>>future? Will Monad and PowerShell diverge rather than converge?
>>
>>
>>
>>Guy Thomas



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-13-2006   #4 (permalink)
Andrew Watt [MVP]


 
 

Re: Monad / PowerShell / Exchange 2007

Guy,

I just asked a question about this in a TechEd webcast on Exchange
2007. Apparently, the MSH > PowerShell transition didn't make the cut
for Exchange 2007 Beta 2.

It will happen in some later build.

Andrew Watt MVP

On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:33:37 +0100, "Guy Thomas"
<guy@computerperformance.co.uk> wrote:

>Dear Andrew
>
>Not only was your answer clear, but also it was just what I wanted to hear.
>
>Thank you
>
>Guy
>
>"Andrew Watt [MVP]" <SVGDeveloper@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:gm0j829atc0gbresd2jevdgfsu65kp2tn3@4ax.com...
>> Guy,
>>
>> The following is my surmise from various fragments of information but
>> I think it's close to the truth.
>>
>> Exchange Beta 2 will have made the switch from "Monad" terminology and
>> filenaming to the PowerShell equivalent by the time that Beta 2 is
>> released. So, once Exchange 2007 has caught up "everybody" will use
>> PowerShell terminology etc.
>>
>> What you are seeing is simply a transitional phase where the
>> now-6-or-so-months-old Exchange Beta 1 was created before "core"
>> PowerShell transitioned from Monad.
>>
>> In addition, as became clear from the Exchange 2007 webcasts a few
>> weeks back, there are still significant changes being made in the
>> Exchange-specific cmdlets.
>>
>> As far as I am aware, you shouldn't expect the hybrid PowerShell/Monad
>> setup to work. In an unspecified time period when Exchange 2007 Beta 2
>> is released you should be in a PowerShell world where (hopefully)
>> everything plays nicely together.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> Andrew Watt MVP
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 14:24:15 +0100, "Guy Thomas"
>> <guy@computerperformance.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Monad / PowerShell / Exchange 2007
>>>
>>>In Exchange 2007 beta, if I replace Monad with PowerShell, then the
>>>Exchange
>>>specific commands don't appear to work.
>>>
>>>Eg Get-Mailbox. (get-service works fine)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>My question is: have I missed a step?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Supplementary question, if this behaviour is 'by design' what will be the
>>>future? Will Monad and PowerShell diverge rather than converge?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Guy Thomas

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-14-2006   #5 (permalink)
Arul Kumaravel[MSFT]


 
 

Re: Monad / PowerShell / Exchange 2007


"Guy Thomas" <guy@computerperformance.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OjJ2Cg8iGHA.4284@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
EXchange Beta2 hasn't made transition from Monad to Powershell name. if you
are using Exchange beta, you need to continue to use the old monad
terminology and commands. Exchange will make the transition to the new
name post beta2.





> Monad / PowerShell / Exchange 2007
>
> In Exchange 2007 beta, if I replace Monad with PowerShell, then the
> Exchange specific commands don't appear to work.
>
> Eg Get-Mailbox. (get-service works fine)
>
>
>
> My question is: have I missed a step?
>
>
>
> Supplementary question, if this behaviour is 'by design' what will be the
> future? Will Monad and PowerShell diverge rather than converge?
>
>
>
> Guy Thomas
>
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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