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RWW - client computer unavailable
  1. #1


    Charlie Lewis Guest

    RWW - client computer unavailable

    Not for the first time, I'm having trouble connecting to a client computer
    on the SBS network remotely via Remote Web Workplace.

    As far as I know, all the following are true:

    - The PC is in the SBS domain.
    - You can access the RWW login screen, and see the PC in the computer list.
    - All relevant ports are open in the routers and firewalls at the company
    site and remote locations.
    - No power-saving is enabled on the PC.
    - You can access the server via RWW.
    - IE8 is the browser used for access.

    However, when you click on the required computer, it says that it is
    unavailable or offline.

    Any ideas?





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  2. #2


    Dave Nickason [SBS MVP] Guest

    Re: RWW - client computer unavailable

    There's kind of a corner case that can cause this. There are two sets of
    group policy settings for the Windows Firewall, domain and non-domain. This
    is so that when your laptop is in the office it works as a local PC, while
    when it's on the road its security is higher. The non-domain settings block
    RDP.

    To diagnose this, when the computer is blocking the connection, have someone
    go to CP -> Windows Firewall and see if, at the bottom of the first tab, it
    says it's using the non-domain settings. If it's using non-domain, that's
    the cause of the rejected connections. The fix is to simply set the Network
    Location Awareness service to automatic startup instead of manual - it runs
    all the time anyway, but in Automatic it starts faster, preventing this
    problem. Reboot or gpupdate /force, and you'll never have the problem with
    that workstation again.

    This isn't a common problem but I've seen it maybe 10 times. When I have
    users who frequently log in remotely, I routinely just set NLA to automatic
    (only on XP - auto start is the default setting in Vista).


    "Charlie Lewis" <charlie_c_lewis@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:A002DEC4-D9A7-4A8C-A76A-5356C10DB89A@newsgroup

    > Not for the first time, I'm having trouble connecting to a client computer
    > on the SBS network remotely via Remote Web Workplace.
    >
    > As far as I know, all the following are true:
    >
    > - The PC is in the SBS domain.
    > - You can access the RWW login screen, and see the PC in the computer
    > list.
    > - All relevant ports are open in the routers and firewalls at the company
    > site and remote locations.
    > - No power-saving is enabled on the PC.
    > - You can access the server via RWW.
    > - IE8 is the browser used for access.
    >
    > However, when you click on the required computer, it says that it is
    > unavailable or offline.
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #3


    Charlie Lewis Guest

    Re: RWW - client computer unavailable

    Have not been able to try this yet, Dave, but will report back.

    "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <gwdibble@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:uDmlU3VOKHA.3192@newsgroup

    > There's kind of a corner case that can cause this. There are two sets of
    > group policy settings for the Windows Firewall, domain and non-domain.
    > This is so that when your laptop is in the office it works as a local PC,
    > while when it's on the road its security is higher. The non-domain
    > settings block RDP.
    >
    > To diagnose this, when the computer is blocking the connection, have
    > someone go to CP -> Windows Firewall and see if, at the bottom of the
    > first tab, it says it's using the non-domain settings. If it's using
    > non-domain, that's the cause of the rejected connections. The fix is to
    > simply set the Network Location Awareness service to automatic startup
    > instead of manual - it runs all the time anyway, but in Automatic it
    > starts faster, preventing this problem. Reboot or gpupdate /force, and
    > you'll never have the problem with that workstation again.
    >
    > This isn't a common problem but I've seen it maybe 10 times. When I have
    > users who frequently log in remotely, I routinely just set NLA to
    > automatic (only on XP - auto start is the default setting in Vista).
    >
    >
    > "Charlie Lewis" <charlie_c_lewis@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:A002DEC4-D9A7-4A8C-A76A-5356C10DB89A@newsgroup

    >> Not for the first time, I'm having trouble connecting to a client
    >> computer on the SBS network remotely via Remote Web Workplace.
    >>
    >> As far as I know, all the following are true:
    >>
    >> - The PC is in the SBS domain.
    >> - You can access the RWW login screen, and see the PC in the computer
    >> list.
    >> - All relevant ports are open in the routers and firewalls at the company
    >> site and remote locations.
    >> - No power-saving is enabled on the PC.
    >> - You can access the server via RWW.
    >> - IE8 is the browser used for access.
    >>
    >> However, when you click on the required computer, it says that it is
    >> unavailable or offline.
    >>
    >> Any ideas?
    >>
    >>
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #4


    Charlie Lewis Guest

    Re: RWW - client computer unavailable

    I have tried the following. While connected remotely to the server via
    Remote Desktop, I have run WireShark. With that running (on the server) in a
    window on the remote PC, I have attempted to connect via RWW. The only
    significant thing I can see going on in the WireShark report is this:

    "ARP Who has 192.168.1.20? Tell 192.168.1.10"

    This happens repeatedly, maybe 10 times. dot 20 is the client PC. dot 10 is
    the SBS server.



    "Charlie Lewis" <charlie_c_lewis@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:A002DEC4-D9A7-4A8C-A76A-5356C10DB89A@newsgroup

    > Not for the first time, I'm having trouble connecting to a client computer
    > on the SBS network remotely via Remote Web Workplace.
    >
    > As far as I know, all the following are true:
    >
    > - The PC is in the SBS domain.
    > - You can access the RWW login screen, and see the PC in the computer
    > list.
    > - All relevant ports are open in the routers and firewalls at the company
    > site and remote locations.
    > - No power-saving is enabled on the PC.
    > - You can access the server via RWW.
    > - IE8 is the browser used for access.
    >
    > However, when you click on the required computer, it says that it is
    > unavailable or offline.
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #5


    Charlie Lewis Guest

    Re: RWW - client computer unavailable

    I've now had time to try this, with someone on the other end at the PC.

    The firewall was in domain mode. I still went ahead and did all the rest of
    the NLA stuff ... but no joy, I'm afraid :-)


    "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <gwdibble@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:uDmlU3VOKHA.3192@newsgroup

    > There's kind of a corner case that can cause this. There are two sets of
    > group policy settings for the Windows Firewall, domain and non-domain.
    > This is so that when your laptop is in the office it works as a local PC,
    > while when it's on the road its security is higher. The non-domain
    > settings block RDP.
    >
    > To diagnose this, when the computer is blocking the connection, have
    > someone go to CP -> Windows Firewall and see if, at the bottom of the
    > first tab, it says it's using the non-domain settings. If it's using
    > non-domain, that's the cause of the rejected connections. The fix is to
    > simply set the Network Location Awareness service to automatic startup
    > instead of manual - it runs all the time anyway, but in Automatic it
    > starts faster, preventing this problem. Reboot or gpupdate /force, and
    > you'll never have the problem with that workstation again.
    >
    > This isn't a common problem but I've seen it maybe 10 times. When I have
    > users who frequently log in remotely, I routinely just set NLA to
    > automatic (only on XP - auto start is the default setting in Vista).
    >
    >
    > "Charlie Lewis" <charlie_c_lewis@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:A002DEC4-D9A7-4A8C-A76A-5356C10DB89A@newsgroup

    >> Not for the first time, I'm having trouble connecting to a client
    >> computer on the SBS network remotely via Remote Web Workplace.
    >>
    >> As far as I know, all the following are true:
    >>
    >> - The PC is in the SBS domain.
    >> - You can access the RWW login screen, and see the PC in the computer
    >> list.
    >> - All relevant ports are open in the routers and firewalls at the company
    >> site and remote locations.
    >> - No power-saving is enabled on the PC.
    >> - You can access the server via RWW.
    >> - IE8 is the browser used for access.
    >>
    >> However, when you click on the required computer, it says that it is
    >> unavailable or offline.
    >>
    >> Any ideas?
    >>
    >>
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #6


    Dave Nickason [SBS MVP] Guest

    Re: RWW - client computer unavailable

    Try connecting with the remote desktop client from another PC on the lan,
    both by name and IP. If you open a cmd prompt and do ipconfig /flushdns on
    both the client PC and the SBS, does that help any? (You need to run cmd as
    admin on Vista).


    "Charlie Lewis" <charlie_c_lewis@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:C2A825DF-6EA1-4864-957A-9ACCF82A58DE@newsgroup

    >I have tried the following. While connected remotely to the server via
    >Remote Desktop, I have run WireShark. With that running (on the server) in
    >a window on the remote PC, I have attempted to connect via RWW. The only
    >significant thing I can see going on in the WireShark report is this:
    >
    > "ARP Who has 192.168.1.20? Tell 192.168.1.10"
    >
    > This happens repeatedly, maybe 10 times. dot 20 is the client PC. dot 10
    > is the SBS server.
    >
    >
    >
    > "Charlie Lewis" <charlie_c_lewis@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:A002DEC4-D9A7-4A8C-A76A-5356C10DB89A@newsgroup

    >> Not for the first time, I'm having trouble connecting to a client
    >> computer on the SBS network remotely via Remote Web Workplace.
    >>
    >> As far as I know, all the following are true:
    >>
    >> - The PC is in the SBS domain.
    >> - You can access the RWW login screen, and see the PC in the computer
    >> list.
    >> - All relevant ports are open in the routers and firewalls at the company
    >> site and remote locations.
    >> - No power-saving is enabled on the PC.
    >> - You can access the server via RWW.
    >> - IE8 is the browser used for access.
    >>
    >> However, when you click on the required computer, it says that it is
    >> unavailable or offline.
    >>
    >> Any ideas?
    >>
    >>
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

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