Hi all, I'm trying to set up a brand-newly-configures SBS 2003 server on an
all-XP "network" of 7 clients (and no server). My server seems to be set up
correctly; it can surf (I'm on it now) and use the office network fine, and
dcdiag and netdiag both give all "passed" results.

Routers are one thing I'm not terribly familiar with, but I know how to
configure this one, and I've turned off DNS and DHCP at the router level, and
put in a forwarder in the Server's DNS to send requests through to the router.



On any of the XP computers, though, if I try to add them to the domain
(using the Network ID wizard or not), they get an error saying they timed out
trying to reach the domain controller. They can ping the IP of the DC /
Server just fine. And as long as I left DHCP on the router on, they all
worked okay, but when I turned it off and enabled DHCP on the DC, they all
stopped pulling addresses or being able to access the 'Net. (Now I get
"limited or no connectivity" notices, and timeout errors if I try to
release/renew.)

Hi MarieSHL,
Going through the IP address for the Windows XP , looklike it is geting the
address from the SBS DC but the DNS address for the XP workstation is still
"192.168.1.1"
Can you check the DNS entry of the DHCP of the SBS Server.

Hi Merv Porter,
Thank you plesae assist
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-ea6c1d6f1499/

Hi MarieSHL,
I suggest you run this two tools again
1) Change the Server IP Wizard
http://www.smallbizserver.net/Articl...P-address.aspx
2) As Merv Porter mention CEICW
http://www.smallbizserver.net/Articl...et-access.aspx
3) Check the DHCP of the SBS Server. Disable the DHCP of the Router

Hope you find the info useful

"Justohelp" wrote:

> Hi MarieSHL,
> Going through the IP address for the Windows XP , looklike it is geting the
> address from the SBS DC but the DNS address for the XP workstation is still
> "192.168.1.1"
> Can you check the DNS entry of the DHCP of the SBS Server.
>
> Hi Merv Porter,
> Thank you plesae assist
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-ea6c1d6f1499/

I also suspect Marie is not using the /connectcomputer process. Not a good
idea.

"Justohelp" <Justohelp@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:A74DA99B-BB70-4709-B45E-2CF6157C9642@newsgroup

> Hi MarieSHL,
> I suggest you run this two tools again
> 1) Change the Server IP Wizard
> http://www.smallbizserver.net/Articl...P-address.aspx
> 2) As Merv Porter mention CEICW
> http://www.smallbizserver.net/Articl...et-access.aspx
> 3) Check the DHCP of the SBS Server. Disable the DHCP of the Router
>
> Hope you find the info useful
>
> "Justohelp" wrote:
>

>> Hi MarieSHL,
>> Going through the IP address for the Windows XP , looklike it is geting
>> the
>> address from the SBS DC but the DNS address for the XP workstation is
>> still
>> "192.168.1.1"
>> Can you check the DNS entry of the DHCP of the SBS Server.
>>
>> Hi Merv Porter,
>> Thank you plesae assist
>> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-ea6c1d6f1499/

Are they running ISA? ...

This can also happen if they're running SBS Premium w' ISA installed,
and a custom ISA rule is created (typically a deny (websites) rule).
This *must* be placed just before the SBS Internet Access Rule (and no
higher) - or DHCP or DNS servers will not be found.

--
Duncan.

In article <eGUpUuMrKHA.728@newsgroup>, not@newsgroup
says...

>
> I also suspect Marie is not using the /connectcomputer process. Not a good
> idea.
>
> "Justohelp" <Justohelp@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:A74DA99B-BB70-4709-B45E-2CF6157C9642@newsgroup

> > Hi MarieSHL,
> > I suggest you run this two tools again
> > 1) Change the Server IP Wizard
> > http://www.smallbizserver.net/Articl...P-address.aspx
> > 2) As Merv Porter mention CEICW
> > http://www.smallbizserver.net/Articl...et-access.aspx
> > 3) Check the DHCP of the SBS Server. Disable the DHCP of the Router
> >
> > Hope you find the info useful
> >
> > "Justohelp" wrote:
> >

> >> Hi MarieSHL,
> >> Going through the IP address for the Windows XP , looklike it is geting
> >> the
> >> address from the SBS DC but the DNS address for the XP workstation is
> >> still
> >> "192.168.1.1"
> >> Can you check the DNS entry of the DHCP of the SBS Server.
> >>
> >> Hi Merv Porter,
> >> Thank you plesae assist
> >> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-ea6c1d6f1499/

Thank you for all the replies!

"Duncan McCormack" wrote:

> Are they running ISA? ...
>

We are running SBS Standard and do not have ISA.

> > I also suspect Marie is not using the /connectcomputer process. Not a good
> > idea.

I am unable to use this process, as the XP computers won't connect to the
server through a browser either. Sorry!

> > > I suggest you run this two tools again
> > > 1) Change the Server IP Wizard
> > > http://www.smallbizserver.net/Articl...P-address.aspx
> > > 2) As Merv Porter mention CEICW
> > > http://www.smallbizserver.net/Articl...et-access.aspx
> > > 3) Check the DHCP of the SBS Server. Disable the DHCP of the Router

Okay, good thoughts...I did those...the CIECW fails on part of the Email
configuration, apparently no matter how I set it up (Email is currently being
handled by a different server, so it doesn't really matter anyway), but the
rest of it works just fine. It ends up making no change in the situation:
Boxes still won't pull addresses (I had one box getting DHCP successfully,
none of the others would; but ironically when I ran the CEICW the one stopped
working!) or use DNS or WINS to find this DC as a domain controller.

> > >> Can you check the DNS entry of the DHCP of the SBS Server.

I'm afraid I'm not sure what this means? I've looked over the DNS and DHCP
management consoles a number of times and they look okay; is there something
specific I should be looking for?

One thing that I did find, which may be the problem but I'm not sure how:
Running the Best Practices Analyzer, I get an error that "DNS CLIENT IS NOT
CONFIGURED: The DNS client is not configured to point only to the internal
IP address of this server." ...Unfortunately that's all it will tell me, and
the article it points to for more info is just the standard 'How to
configure' article I've read ten times, and I did everything in there and
have triple-checked it, but I can't see ANYWHERE that the wrong DNS address
is referenced.

Still working on this, and really appreciate your help, thank you...

Huh...I just noticed something else that may be helpful...while I'm still in
the same position of being able to ping the DC by its IP address ONLY
(nothing else works), I realized today that I'm not getting a "Page Not
Found" when trying to connect to http://[DC's IP]/connectcomputer -- actually
what I'm getting is a resolved, but blank, page. Weird!

Please post the rsults of an ipconfig /all for both the SBS server and
for a workstation.

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"MarieSHL" <MarieSHL@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:F563869D-322E-40C1-BC54-96C7D7A92572@newsgroup

> Huh...I just noticed something else that may be helpful...while I'm still
> in
> the same position of being able to ping the DC by its IP address ONLY
> (nothing else works), I realized today that I'm not getting a "Page Not
> Found" when trying to connect to http://[DC's IP]/connectcomputer --
> actually
> what I'm getting is a resolved, but blank, page. Weird!