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Re: Remote Access Security

  1. #1


    Joe Guest

    Re: Remote Access Security

    TRI-C wrote:

    > Would like to know how to prevent someone from accessing the server remotely.
    Disconnect it from the Internet...

    > Periodically, I see a high number of LOGON FAILURES where someone in the
    > world is trying to gain access to our server (SBS 2003) remotely and entering
    > a myriad of different user names. Is there a way to set a policy to allow a
    > maximum number of attempts from an IP address?
    Not as far as I know. You can take steps to minimise risks, only
    permitting VPN and RWW access to those who need them, but whatever
    services you open will be at risk from poor passwords of those who are
    allowed to use them. If you receive mail by SMTP, there will be frequent
    probes for port 25 followed by attempts at authenticated relaying, which
    all users are permitted to try. If you don't allow authenticated
    relaying, it doesn't matter who hammers on the door.

    If you are allowing remote connections, there are ways of improving
    security of both RWW and VPN that do not involve passwords, but there's
    no way of telling how useful or cost-effective that would be. Virtually
    no network compromises result from outside attacks these days, pretty
    much all the trouble comes from unwary users executing some kind of
    malware, whether by web browsing or email. There are various ways of
    minimising these risks, but they don't involve defending the network
    from direct outside assault.

    There's not really much point in IP address lockouts, as most attackers
    will not stick to a single address for any length of time, and lockouts
    must expire eventually. Having said that, I keep an eye on the firewall
    logs of one site, purely out of curiosity to see what's fashionable, and
    there's a Chinese IP address which tries to find a web proxy about once
    an hour, for the last couple of years. He didn't find it the first day,
    and he's never going to find it, as it doesn't exist, and there's no
    point in getting irritated by his persistence. On the other hand, my
    mail server logs show failed NDR spam attempts, and there's rarely more
    than about four attempts from one address, then the same crop of names
    appears from a different continent half an hour later. Anyone playing
    this game normally has a fairly large pool of stolen IP addresses to
    work with.



    You can impose lockouts on users after a number of failed logon
    attempts, but if the attack is automated, as almost all are, the user
    names will not be known anyway. Running a dictionary attack without
    knowledge of user account names, and at typical DSL speeds, is not a
    practical proposition. The automated attackers are hoping to get lucky,
    finding a JSmith who is using the password 'secret', or maybe even an
    Administrator/'password'. The server Administrator account cannot be
    locked out. Rename it if you like, but more importantly, give it a huge
    and totally uncrackable password and never use it.

    There really is no substitute for good passwords. You need to impress on
    the remote users that their passwords are all that stands between the
    network and the bad guys. I'm sure you know you can impose password
    policies, but they are never popular and often result in outbreaks of
    inappropriate Post-Its. It's better to convince them that they'll be
    extremely ashamed if someone breaks into the network because of their
    laziness. And you *will* know it was them...

    --
    Joe

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  2. #2


    Charlie Russel - MVP Guest

    Re: Remote Access Security

    There ARE alternatives to password issues, and a password should not be the
    only thing between the bad guys and your network. TFA, in some form or
    another, is a viable improvement to simple passwords, and can be implemented
    quite cost effectively on an SBS network.

    --
    Charlie.
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




    "Joe" <joe@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:uTPgPO9uKHA.5940@newsgroup

    > TRI-C wrote:

    >> Would like to know how to prevent someone from accessing the server
    >> remotely.
    >
    > Disconnect it from the Internet...
    >

    >> Periodically, I see a high number of LOGON FAILURES where someone in the
    >> world is trying to gain access to our server (SBS 2003) remotely and
    >> entering a myriad of different user names. Is there a way to set a policy
    >> to allow a maximum number of attempts from an IP address?
    >
    > Not as far as I know. You can take steps to minimise risks, only
    > permitting VPN and RWW access to those who need them, but whatever
    > services you open will be at risk from poor passwords of those who are
    > allowed to use them. If you receive mail by SMTP, there will be frequent
    > probes for port 25 followed by attempts at authenticated relaying, which
    > all users are permitted to try. If you don't allow authenticated relaying,
    > it doesn't matter who hammers on the door.
    >
    > If you are allowing remote connections, there are ways of improving
    > security of both RWW and VPN that do not involve passwords, but there's no
    > way of telling how useful or cost-effective that would be. Virtually no
    > network compromises result from outside attacks these days, pretty much
    > all the trouble comes from unwary users executing some kind of malware,
    > whether by web browsing or email. There are various ways of minimising
    > these risks, but they don't involve defending the network from direct
    > outside assault.
    >
    > There's not really much point in IP address lockouts, as most attackers
    > will not stick to a single address for any length of time, and lockouts
    > must expire eventually. Having said that, I keep an eye on the firewall
    > logs of one site, purely out of curiosity to see what's fashionable, and
    > there's a Chinese IP address which tries to find a web proxy about once an
    > hour, for the last couple of years. He didn't find it the first day, and
    > he's never going to find it, as it doesn't exist, and there's no point in
    > getting irritated by his persistence. On the other hand, my mail server
    > logs show failed NDR spam attempts, and there's rarely more than about
    > four attempts from one address, then the same crop of names appears from a
    > different continent half an hour later. Anyone playing this game normally
    > has a fairly large pool of stolen IP addresses to work with.
    >
    > You can impose lockouts on users after a number of failed logon attempts,
    > but if the attack is automated, as almost all are, the user names will not
    > be known anyway. Running a dictionary attack without knowledge of user
    > account names, and at typical DSL speeds, is not a practical proposition.
    > The automated attackers are hoping to get lucky, finding a JSmith who is
    > using the password 'secret', or maybe even an Administrator/'password'.
    > The server Administrator account cannot be locked out. Rename it if you
    > like, but more importantly, give it a huge and totally uncrackable
    > password and never use it.
    >
    > There really is no substitute for good passwords. You need to impress on
    > the remote users that their passwords are all that stands between the
    > network and the bad guys. I'm sure you know you can impose password
    > policies, but they are never popular and often result in outbreaks of
    > inappropriate Post-Its. It's better to convince them that they'll be
    > extremely ashamed if someone breaks into the network because of their
    > laziness. And you *will* know it was them...
    >
    > --
    > Joe

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #3


    Falcon ITS Guest

    Re: Remote Access Security

    Hello,

    You did not specify what type of Logon. NETWORK, SMTP, TS, HTTP-OWA?

    Generally speaking,

    1. Enforcing a strong password policy (Local and Domain) makes these
    types of attacks (dictionary attacks and brute force attacks) very
    difficult to succeed.
    2. Set an Account Lockout Policy for Local and Domain lockout max 10
    attempts with at least 30 min intervals.
    3. As Charlie Russel mentioned, get a router that lets you drop
    packets from the source IP where the attacks originate
    4. Contact abuse@ their ISP and complain. (www.arin.org) the ISP will
    typically put and end to it.
    5. As Joe mentioned, figure out what's annoying you and what's really
    dangerous and don't worry about the annoying stuff. Too many script
    bunnies out there for you to get all worked up.

    Also, are the myriad of use names random or do they match those in
    your AD? If so, they may have enumerated your AD. I would check that
    out.

    Finally, 100% agree with Joe, there is no substitute for a good p@$
    $W0rD.


    Miguel Fra / Falcon ITS
    http://www.falconits.com
    http://sharepoint.falconits.com

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

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