Yes I Understand the #$#@$ Reason
And I blame Fly by night IT consultants for most of that.
(Who seem cheap but cost you money in the long run.)
But once you have it, and has all this cool stuff
Why not take a couple of mins to do it correct?
and Managing Exchange in SBS is Piece of Cake.
Just use the wizards....
My Point is you have a Wonderful tool for small businesess
not making use of a Tool that can make you MORE productive
spend less time, and as we all know time=money....
to me it's a No brainer, use tools...
Howerver if you never used the POP3 connector you'd do your self a big
This transition tool is worthless IMO if you know what you are doing.
To me this is like buying a Ferrari because you like to sit in the seat and
pretend to drive...
Sure it cost money to run it, but you will have a lot of fun using it!
I'm still under the impression if you are going to do something
why not do it right?
Half Assed (Pardon me) just cost you more money in the long run...
The OP has a great Solution SBS
However he's scrambling around to find OTHER solutions
when the Solution he has is in front of him.
I think he should Consult.
Tell them how much this OTHER solution is costing
VS the EASY Other Solutions...
COSTING MORE MONEY/TIME/Billed Hours!
Just because something is cheap doesn't mean it cost less in the long run...
As a consultant, that's our job to explain the total cost.
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@newsgroup> wrote in message
> The reasoning is simple Russ. 'I get a cheap copy of Windows server'
> The madness is to then try and implement SBS in nonstandard manner. No
> exchange, so OK, you don't want Exchnage, but that also means there is no
> delivery mechanism for SBSFax and SBSMonitoring, throw those out as well.
> It is specifically the 'intergration', the glue, which suffers. Then along
> comes a patch expecting the whole to be intact... more trouble.
> The other aspect I don't get is 'I do not wish to manage Exchange'. Guess
> what? Neither do I, and in fact I (mostly) don't.
> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ@newsgroup> wrote in message
>>I always wonder why people buy SBS and not use the Exchange?
>> It's like they think it's mystical and magical unicorn or something?
>> Especially since they have paid for a solution, and wish to pay again for
>> Anyway along with not wanting to use the best features of SBS
>> I think Gumby is correct I believe it drops it into pickup folder
>> Solution IMO would be use SBS like it's meant to be
>> or go to Fax.com or some other fax solution...
>> It's too bad you've spent money on a wonderful product and don't choose
>> to use it
>> Now you have to spend MORE money on another solution...
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
>> Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
>> Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com
>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@newsgroup> wrote in message
>>> there is nowhere to adjust the fax submission credentials because the
>>> fax submission process does not use SMTP, SBSFax drops a formatted
>>> document in the Exchange pickup folder. (I believe)
>>> "Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]" <email@example.com> wrote in
>>> message news:4e683515daa08cc973645e2bacc@newsgroup
>>>> Hi Robert:
>>>> Where are you looking for the appropriate credentials?
>>>> Since you are opting not to use any/the best the features of SBS, why
>>>> not kill it off and either use a workgroup with no AD, or a basic
>>>> Windows Server, or, if 15 or fewer users, Windows Server Foundation?
>>>> Please post the resolution to your
>>>> issue so others may benefit
>>>> Get Your SBS Health Check at
>>>>> I am currently running SBS for a business. They had opted to move from
>>>>> their Exchange setup to Google Apps.
>>>>> Fax notifications are currently being sent through a remote SMTP
>>>>> server I have setup (specifically running qmail) to allow relaying
>>>>> from the SBS server IP.
>>>>> I would like to abandon this setup and forward Fax Notifications to
>>>>> the gmail server directly but do not see the appropriate credentials
>>>>> to allow me to connect via secure SMTP.
>>>>> I'm also trying to avoid running Exchange or a mail sever locally to
>>>>> handle the forwards.
>>>>> Any help to eliminate some of my dependencies without creating any