I inherited a client that has the following setup :
SBS 2003 standard sp2
Dell CERC ATA Raid Controller

It has 2 drives : 1 is a simple 80GB drive partitioned into C and D;
the other drive is 150GB dynamic spanned to the D.



Can I put in another 250GB drive and mirror it to the existing
partitions?
TIA

I doubt it, but even if you could, I'd strongly discourage it. IDE drives
were never designed for server use because ATA as a protocol is not robust.
SCSI has a long heritage of being very intelligent, so it (or SAS) lends
itself very well to RAID.

The setup you describe, with a span that you'd then be trying to mirror,
would probably crush your performance on simple IDE drives.

-Cliff


"J" <japhyrider2005@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:0139b7ab-b7ac-4a18-8863-4cec9b97c82e@newsgroup

> I inherited a client that has the following setup :
> SBS 2003 standard sp2
> Dell CERC ATA Raid Controller
>
> It has 2 drives : 1 is a simple 80GB drive partitioned into C and D;
> the other drive is 150GB dynamic spanned to the D.
>
> Can I put in another 250GB drive and mirror it to the existing
> partitions?
> TIA

On Apr 2, 11:20*am, "Cliff Galiher - MVP" <cgali...@newsgroup> wrote:

> I doubt it, but even if you could, I'd strongly discourage it. *IDE drives
> were never designed for server use because ATA as a protocol is not robust.
> SCSI has a long heritage of being very intelligent, so it (or SAS) lends
> itself very well to RAID.
>
> The setup you describe, with a span that you'd then be trying to mirror,
> would probably crush your performance on simple IDE drives.
>
> -Cliff
>
> "J" <japhyrider2...@newsgroup> wrote in message
>
> news:0139b7ab-b7ac-4a18-8863-4cec9b97c82e@newsgroup
>
>
>

> > I inherited a client that has the following setup :
> > SBS 2003 standard sp2
> > Dell CERC ATA Raid Controller

>

> > It has 2 drives : 1 is a simple 80GB drive partitioned into C and D;
> > the other drive is 150GB dynamic spanned to the D.

>

> > Can I put in another 250GB drive and mirror it to the existing
> > partitions?
> > TIA- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

These are SCSI drives

In article <0139b7ab-b7ac-4a18-8863-
4cec9b97c82e@newsgroup>, japhyrider2005@newsgroup
says...

>
> I inherited a client that has the following setup :
> SBS 2003 standard sp2
> Dell CERC ATA Raid Controller
>
> It has 2 drives : 1 is a simple 80GB drive partitioned into C and D;
> the other drive is 150GB dynamic spanned to the D.
>
> Can I put in another 250GB drive and mirror it to the existing
> partitions?
> TIA

If you want to make your life simple, install another raid controller
and install two drives in a raid 1 on it.

I can't directly answer your question, but, I'm going to bet that you
can't just mirror the existing drive (physical) without trashing it.

BTW, you said they are SCSI in your other reply, but you state ATA in
the controller above.

So, is the 150 an ATA or SCSI?



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I'm guessing from the description that you did this with software RAID (ie,
the RAID built into SBS). In which case, the answer is a simple no.

--
Charlie.
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"J" <japhyrider2005@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:b1c9eb60-de93-4004-8e7a-bce4d9a394a2@newsgroup
On Apr 2, 11:20 am, "Cliff Galiher - MVP" <cgali...@newsgroup> wrote:

> I doubt it, but even if you could, I'd strongly discourage it. IDE drives
> were never designed for server use because ATA as a protocol is not
> robust.
> SCSI has a long heritage of being very intelligent, so it (or SAS) lends
> itself very well to RAID.
>
> The setup you describe, with a span that you'd then be trying to mirror,
> would probably crush your performance on simple IDE drives.
>
> -Cliff
>
> "J" <japhyrider2...@newsgroup> wrote in message
>
> news:0139b7ab-b7ac-4a18-8863-4cec9b97c82e@newsgroup
>
>
>

> > I inherited a client that has the following setup :
> > SBS 2003 standard sp2
> > Dell CERC ATA Raid Controller

>

> > It has 2 drives : 1 is a simple 80GB drive partitioned into C and D;
> > the other drive is 150GB dynamic spanned to the D.

>

> > Can I put in another 250GB drive and mirror it to the existing
> > partitions?
> > TIA- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

These are SCSI drives

No they are not. They are attached to CERC ATA. The CERC controller appears
as a RAID device and basically 'pretends' to be a SCSI object but the ATA
bit gives it away. Most ATA RAID does same.

Grab 2*250GB ATA drives, RAID them, copy the install across. If you must.

"J" <japhyrider2005@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:b1c9eb60-de93-4004-8e7a-bce4d9a394a2@newsgroup
On Apr 2, 11:20 am, "Cliff Galiher - MVP" <cgali...@newsgroup> wrote:

> I doubt it, but even if you could, I'd strongly discourage it. IDE drives
> were never designed for server use because ATA as a protocol is not
> robust.
> SCSI has a long heritage of being very intelligent, so it (or SAS) lends
> itself very well to RAID.
>
> The setup you describe, with a span that you'd then be trying to mirror,
> would probably crush your performance on simple IDE drives.
>
> -Cliff
>
> "J" <japhyrider2...@newsgroup> wrote in message
>
> news:0139b7ab-b7ac-4a18-8863-4cec9b97c82e@newsgroup
>
>
>

> > I inherited a client that has the following setup :
> > SBS 2003 standard sp2
> > Dell CERC ATA Raid Controller

>

> > It has 2 drives : 1 is a simple 80GB drive partitioned into C and D;
> > the other drive is 150GB dynamic spanned to the D.

>

> > Can I put in another 250GB drive and mirror it to the existing
> > partitions?
> > TIA- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

These are SCSI drives

pretty sure I'm right that they are ATA but the OP is being confused as the
controller appears as 'SCSI and RAID devices' in devman.

"Leythos" <spam999free@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:MPG.26202249d5465cdb98a25a@newsgroup

> In article <0139b7ab-b7ac-4a18-8863-
> 4cec9b97c82e@newsgroup>, japhyrider2005@newsgroup
> says...

>>
>> I inherited a client that has the following setup :
>> SBS 2003 standard sp2
>> Dell CERC ATA Raid Controller
>>
>> It has 2 drives : 1 is a simple 80GB drive partitioned into C and D;
>> the other drive is 150GB dynamic spanned to the D.
>>
>> Can I put in another 250GB drive and mirror it to the existing
>> partitions?
>> TIA

>
> If you want to make your life simple, install another raid controller
> and install two drives in a raid 1 on it.
>
> I can't directly answer your question, but, I'm going to bet that you
> can't just mirror the existing drive (physical) without trashing it.
>
> BTW, you said they are SCSI in your other reply, but you state ATA in
> the controller above.
>
> So, is the 150 an ATA or SCSI?
>
>
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
> Trust yourself.
> spam999free@newsgroup (remove 999 for proper email address)

In article <#Y2cc0r0KHA.6104@newsgroup>, not@newsgroup
says...

>
> pretty sure I'm right that they are ATA but the OP is being confused as the
> controller appears as 'SCSI and RAID devices' in devman.

I agree, the ATA in all the Cerc/Perc controllers means IDE and not SATA
or SCIS, but the Device Manager always shows SCSI....

Maybe he should run a BELARC report so that he knows exactly what is in
the machine.


--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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