Predictable Reoccurring Costs
Companies Want Predictable Costs
That's why some lease Vehicles and Rent Buildings
They don't like the UH Our server went down
it is going to cost us xxx and so much in Labor to fix.
You Pay for what you use, which is the cloud model.
Ramping up and down in this changing world
is a big Concern for many companies
Buying new hardware software is not a good cost model.
and having it when you don't need it is not good either.
The Skill Level to Administrate Exchange server?
I think that is an easy question
and how much do you need to pay the people?
IT People is an expense that people don't want to pay..
If someone with mouse skills can create email accounts?
I know a lot of IT people that are Scared on this, and Trust me
There is a LOT of IT push back for a LOT of reasons
But Money rules in business...
Data, Microsoft has a SLA that covers data financially.
(So Unless you have insurance on your exchange server.)
Also Google is the only Company that says you don't own your Data.
The cost of Migration, Skilled Labor, Server hardware
Software Licensing, Backups etc.
This Ads up to more than the $5.00 or 10 for exchange.
For 10 you get SharePoint Communicator and Live meeting.
(Web ex is $45/user a month by it self BTW)
When They Hook Communicator with Phone calls
The Choices are even MORE Cost Effective.
(Voice Mail Via Email, Call to get Messages etc etc.)
This is the future of Cloud.
ZERO Maintenance, Total Control.
Coca Cola with 75,000 People last year migrated over to BPOS
Now with the Proprietary information of Coca Cola
(That is a Multi BILLION Dollar Company)
Do you think they would go to BPOS if it wasn't Secure
and Cost effective?
I personally don't think Coca-Cola is a Company that would make a mistake
with 75k users and their multi Billion dollar company..
Like I said time will tell
Right now the House is Dealing the Cards
I'm betting with the house vs against it.
(The House always Wins)
Steve Ballmer Quote "We are Betting the Farm on Cloud"
I'm jumping on...
Each one of us has to decide where he or she wants to go.
Yup The world is Changing Kids
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
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BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com
"Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
> Amen to the Amen.
> For one or two users hosted exchange is a deal. For 10+ is seems to be a
> monthly charge that, projected over the life of the system exceeds the
> incremental cost of adding exchange (or some mail server) to a network.
> This is more than a math question, however, factor in "owning' your own
> data, ability to use said data when the internet is off line, and subtract
> the agro of maintaining your own mail server of whatever ilk, and imo, for
> an orginization of more than just a few users local mail wins over hosted
> Please post the resolution to your
> issue so others may benefit
> Get Your SBS Health Check at
>> "Kerry Brown" <email@example.com*a*m> wrote in message
>>> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ@newsgroup> wrote in
>>> message news:u93fU#78KHA.1892@newsgroup
>>>> BPOS is basically RPC over HTTPS so its nothing new.
>>>> and Because of the cost difference there will be more an more people
>>>> and yes you are right Exchange on site will be dead IMO soon.
>>>> And there is a lot of kick from IT
>>>> But Money talks
>>>> Financially it's too expensive to run an exchange server..
>>>> I predict in 4-5 years exchange will no longer be onsite...
>>> I keep seeing this argument. Have you actually worked the numbers?
>>> It's almost impossible to get a price quote from the BPOS site but in
>>> one place they mention $10.00 per month. I have also heard $5.00 per
>>> month. Let's look at a site with 30 users. At $10.00 per month that
>>> is $3,600.00 per year. At $5.00 it's $1,800.00 per year. Most sites
>>> with 30 users will still need a server on site. They will need a DC
>>> and probably a file server, print server, and WSUS. For sure they
>>> will have a LOB app that needs a server. Given they already have at
>>> least one server and the associated costs of maintaining the hardware
>>> are you saying the actual maintenance of Exchange for 30 users is
>>> more than somewhere between $1,800 and $3,600 per year? Even if you
>>> add SharePoint in to the equation none of my clients spend anywhere
>>> near that on Exchange/SharePoint maintenance. Once Exchange and
>>> SharePoint are up and running it doesn't take a lot of time to
>>> maintain them for 30 users. For most of my clients I doubt I spend
>>> two hours a month on Exchange/SharePoint. Most of their costs are
>>> server/workstation depreciation, LOB app maintenance, networking
>>> hardware, and workstation maintenance. None of that goes away with
>>> BPOS. I can think of several reasons for using BPOS. Lower costs is
>>> not one of them.
>>> Kerry Brown
>>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration