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reconnecting to a SBS network

  1. #11


    Popinator Guest

    Re: reconnecting to a SBS network

    Mr. Galiher thanks for your reply. I have solved the situation by manually
    reconnecting to the domain. My explaination: I switched the NIC cards to
    DHCP, then RightClicked on MyComputer, Selected properties, then "Computer
    Name " tab, the "Change...", Then selected the "Domain" radio button, then
    entered my "Domain name", clicked "OK" after reboot I logged in but made sure
    that the "Log onto:" line was visible and selected my domain form the drop
    down list. Irt booted up into the domain and users had their desktops and
    setting back.

    Again thans to you and all who have assisted here.

    "Cliff Galiher - MVP" wrote:

    > When you chose to move the computers from a domain to a workgroup, you
    > removed the password for the computer account from the computer. So there
    > is no *simple* way to revert to the previous configuration for the clients.
    > You will have to use the connect wizard to join the the domain.
    >
    > With that said, it sounds like your essential concern is with preserving
    > user profile settings. THAT can be done even while using the wizard. That
    > is, in fact, an option during the join process. So in that regard, you are
    > covered.
    >
    > -Cliff
    >
    >
    > "Popinator" <Popinator@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:8150A7CC-78CE-4CAC-A2E5-BCB433130552@newsgroup

    > > We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
    > > "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer
    > > to
    > > peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now
    > > that
    > > I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
    > > reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
    > > //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through
    > > the
    > > properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then
    > > set
    > > the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
    > > one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
    > > static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
    > > Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup,
    > > told
    > > me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
    > > log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be
    > > able
    > > to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
    > > settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.
    >

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  2. #12


    Popinator Guest

    Re: reconnecting to a SBS network

    Mr. SuperGumby thank you for your assistance on this issue. I have resolved
    the issue and gotten all my people back on the domain with their orginal
    desktops and settings by manually reconnecting to the domain. My
    explaination: I switched the NIC cards to DHCP, then RightClicked on
    MyComputer, Selected properties, then "Computer Name " tab, then "Change...",
    Then selected the "Domain" radio button, then entered my "Domain name",
    clicked "OK" after reboot I logged in but made sure that the "Log onto:" line
    was visible and selected my domain form the drop down list. It rebooted up
    into the domain and users had their desktops and
    setting back.

    Again thank you and all for your assistance.


    "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:

    > did you recover the original server (AD) or did you install anew (possibly
    > same named but unique AD)?
    >
    > If you have recovered the original AD you can simply rejoin manually and
    > usrs will get their profiles back.
    > If you have installed into a same named but new AD you have further issues
    > to deal with.
    >
    > I am yet to look at your May 13 stuff but this idea of 'swing out to
    > workgroup', reinstall, and 'bring back to domain' as a panacea is stupid.
    > Preserve your AD under any circumstances possible. If SBS is down BRING IT
    > BACK UP, DO NOT throw baby and bathwater away without good reason.
    >
    > "Popinator" <Popinator@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:8150A7CC-78CE-4CAC-A2E5-BCB433130552@newsgroup

    > > We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
    > > "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer
    > > to
    > > peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now
    > > that
    > > I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
    > > reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
    > > //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through
    > > the
    > > properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then
    > > set
    > > the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
    > > one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
    > > static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
    > > Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup,
    > > told
    > > me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
    > > log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be
    > > able
    > > to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
    > > settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.
    >
    >
    > .
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #13


    Popinator Guest

    Re: reconnecting to a SBS network

    Mr. Struckmeyer, Thank you for your assistance on this issue. I know the
    problems when a reinstall happens. In this case I was able to avoid a
    reinstallation by getting the server back up by removing the offending
    software, the antivirus. I was able to get my users back by manually
    reconnecting to the domain. My explaination: I switched the NIC cards to
    DHCP, then RightClicked on MyComputer, Selected properties, then "Computer
    Name " tab, then "Change...", Then selected the "Domain" radio button, then
    entered my "Domain name", clicked "OK" after reboot I logged in but made sure
    that the "Log onto:" line was visible and selected my domain form the drop
    down list. It rebooted up into the domain and users had their desktops and
    setting back.

    Again thanks for your assistance.

    "Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]" wrote:

    > Assuming a new domain, you have to join. This will create a "new" user profile,
    > and as others have pointed out will allow you to copy over the previous,
    > non-domain profile to the new. But, there is some FUD factor here, so I
    > would like to add.
    >
    > If XP stations, the "previous settings", meaning the desktop, favorites,
    > my docs (which should be redirected to the SBS) and so on are in:
    >
    > C:\documents and settings\username(.domain for the period of domain join).
    >
    > If Vista or Win 7 stations, the folders are in C:\Users
    >
    > The usual things of concern are Desktop, Favorites, Documents and perhaps
    > email from a pst file.
    >
    > All these settings are "separate but additive". By that I mean that you
    > can copy from one user set into another. Of course you would need permissions
    > to do so, but it is available if you need to.
    >
    > Worse case is that you login to the workstation as the domain admin, copy
    > the folders from each of the prior users to the current one.
    >
    > Any pst file has to be dealt with (or ignored) by importing or coping to
    > the new outlook profile into the new exchange mailbox.
    >
    > When you are sure all settings (that are on the local station) are set, you
    > can delete prior users (or not, your choice).
    >
    > If you have other settings of concern, please let us know which and we will
    > try to point you to a solution.
    >
    > -
    > Larry
    > Please post the resolution to your
    > issue so others may benefit
    > -
    > Get Your SBS Health Check at
    > www.sbsbpa.com
    >
    >

    > > We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power
    > > off "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up
    > > a peer to peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our
    > > clients. Now that I have the server back up again I was wondering if
    > > there was a way ro reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using
    > > the //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went
    > > through the properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a
    > > workgroup, then set the nic cards to static ip addresses
    > > (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on one machine I tried to undo what
    > > I had done (changed the IP address to a static on the SBS network,
    > > 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties, Computer name and went
    > > from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup, told me I was now a
    > > member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to log in
    > > said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be able
    > > to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their
    > > pervious settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.
    > >
    >
    >
    > .
    >

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #14


    Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP] Guest

    Re: reconnecting to a SBS network

    Thanks for the update. For future reference, you might consider, and test
    if you have time and a couple of stations to test with:

    If the domain controller goes missing, you can still logon to the stations
    as they will use cached credentials. First thing I would do is insure you
    have an administrative logon available to the local machine in case the
    time for the cached credentials expires before you get the DC - SBS back
    on line. No need at that point to remove the stations from the domain.

    To access the internet in the interim, You will have to add a new default
    gateway and DSN setting to the stations NIC properties, and provide an ip.
    Easiest way to do this is to turn on DHCP on the firewall/edge device and
    put it on the same set of wires as the stations. If you had you SBS in a
    single nic config, (as required by SBS 2008, i forget which version you have)
    this would already be connected correctly, just turn on the DHCP service
    on the edge device.

    This way, when you bring back the SBS (or any DC) you just plug everything
    back the way it was, reverse the DHCP changes, and volia.

    btw, my father was Mr. Struckmeyer, I am Larry. <g>

    -
    Larry
    Please post the resolution to your
    issue so others may benefit
    -
    Get Your SBS Health Check at
    www.sbsbpa.com


    > Mr. Struckmeyer, Thank you for your assistance on this issue. I know
    > the problems when a reinstall happens. In this case I was able to
    > avoid a reinstallation by getting the server back up by removing the
    > offending software, the antivirus. I was able to get my users back by
    > manually reconnecting to the domain. My explaination: I switched the
    > NIC cards to DHCP, then RightClicked on MyComputer, Selected
    > properties, then "Computer Name " tab, then "Change...", Then selected
    > the "Domain" radio button, then entered my "Domain name", clicked
    > "OK" after reboot I logged in but made sure that the "Log onto:" line
    > was visible and selected my domain form the drop down list. It
    > rebooted up into the domain and users had their desktops and setting
    > back.
    >
    > Again thanks for your assistance.
    >
    > "Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]" wrote:
    >

    >> Assuming a new domain, you have to join. This will create a "new"
    >> user profile, and as others have pointed out will allow you to copy
    >> over the previous, non-domain profile to the new. But, there is some
    >> FUD factor here, so I would like to add.
    >>
    >> If XP stations, the "previous settings", meaning the desktop,
    >> favorites, my docs (which should be redirected to the SBS) and so on
    >> are in:
    >>
    >> C:\documents and settings\username(.domain for the period of domain
    >> join).
    >>
    >> If Vista or Win 7 stations, the folders are in C:\Users
    >>
    >> The usual things of concern are Desktop, Favorites, Documents and
    >> perhaps email from a pst file.
    >>
    >> All these settings are "separate but additive". By that I mean that
    >> you can copy from one user set into another. Of course you would
    >> need permissions to do so, but it is available if you need to.
    >>
    >> Worse case is that you login to the workstation as the domain admin,
    >> copy the folders from each of the prior users to the current one.
    >>
    >> Any pst file has to be dealt with (or ignored) by importing or coping
    >> to the new outlook profile into the new exchange mailbox.
    >>
    >> When you are sure all settings (that are on the local station) are
    >> set, you can delete prior users (or not, your choice).
    >>
    >> If you have other settings of concern, please let us know which and
    >> we will try to point you to a solution.
    >>
    >> -
    >> Larry
    >> Please post the resolution to your
    >> issue so others may benefit
    >> -
    >> Get Your SBS Health Check at
    >> www.sbsbpa.com

    >>> We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after
    >>> power off "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to
    >>> set up a peer to peer network inorder to keep us runningand take
    >>> care of our clients. Now that I have the server back up again I was
    >>> wondering if there was a way ro reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network
    >>> without using the //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer
    >>> to peer I went through the properties of my computer and changed
    >>> from a domain to a workgroup, then set the nic cards to static ip
    >>> addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on one machine I tried
    >>> to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a static on the
    >>> SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties, Computer
    >>> name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup, told
    >>> me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was
    >>> unable to log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I
    >>> would like to be able to reconnect to the SBS network without the
    >>> users loosing their pervious settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in
    >>> advance.
    >>>
    >> .
    >>


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