We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
"posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer to
peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now that
I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
//server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through the
properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then set
the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup, told
me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be able
to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

From the sbs server, can you ping any workstation by both IP address and
computer name?

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Popinator" <Popinator@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:8150A7CC-78CE-4CAC-A2E5-BCB433130552@newsgroup

> We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
> "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer
> to
> peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now
> that
> I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
> reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
> //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through
> the
> properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then
> set
> the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
> one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
> static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
> Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup,
> told
> me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
> log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be
> able
> to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
> settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

Also, maybe try uninstalling the AV product from the workstation before
re-joining it to the domain.

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"Popinator" <Popinator@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:8150A7CC-78CE-4CAC-A2E5-BCB433130552@newsgroup

> We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
> "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer
> to
> peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now
> that
> I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
> reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
> //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through
> the
> properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then
> set
> the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
> one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
> static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
> Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup,
> told
> me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
> log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be
> able
> to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
> settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

when you use the connectcomputer app, it will offer you the chance to
migrate the users' settings.

It is _always_ best to use the built in wizards with SBS, and especially for
joining the domain. I would:
1.) switch the NICs to DHCP
2.) reboot
3.) logon and connect to \\sbsserver\connectcomputer
4.) Select the user you want to migrate the settings for
5.) when the computer finishes joining the domain, reboot.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"Popinator" <Popinator@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:8150A7CC-78CE-4CAC-A2E5-BCB433130552@newsgroup

> We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
> "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer
> to
> peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now
> that
> I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
> reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
> //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through
> the
> properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then
> set
> the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
> one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
> static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
> Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup,
> told
> me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
> log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be
> able
> to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
> settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

did you recover the original server (AD) or did you install anew (possibly
same named but unique AD)?

If you have recovered the original AD you can simply rejoin manually and
usrs will get their profiles back.
If you have installed into a same named but new AD you have further issues
to deal with.

I am yet to look at your May 13 stuff but this idea of 'swing out to
workgroup', reinstall, and 'bring back to domain' as a panacea is stupid.
Preserve your AD under any circumstances possible. If SBS is down BRING IT
BACK UP, DO NOT throw baby and bathwater away without good reason.

"Popinator" <Popinator@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:8150A7CC-78CE-4CAC-A2E5-BCB433130552@newsgroup

> We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
> "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer
> to
> peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now
> that
> I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
> reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
> //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through
> the
> properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then
> set
> the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
> one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
> static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
> Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup,
> told
> me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
> log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be
> able
> to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
> settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

When you chose to move the computers from a domain to a workgroup, you
removed the password for the computer account from the computer. So there
is no *simple* way to revert to the previous configuration for the clients.
You will have to use the connect wizard to join the the domain.

With that said, it sounds like your essential concern is with preserving
user profile settings. THAT can be done even while using the wizard. That
is, in fact, an option during the join process. So in that regard, you are
covered.

-Cliff


"Popinator" <Popinator@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:8150A7CC-78CE-4CAC-A2E5-BCB433130552@newsgroup

> We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
> "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer
> to
> peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now
> that
> I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
> reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
> //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through
> the
> properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then
> set
> the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
> one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
> static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
> Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup,
> told
> me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
> log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be
> able
> to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
> settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

Assuming a new domain, you have to join. This will create a "new" user profile,
and as others have pointed out will allow you to copy over the previous,
non-domain profile to the new. But, there is some FUD factor here, so I
would like to add.

If XP stations, the "previous settings", meaning the desktop, favorites,
my docs (which should be redirected to the SBS) and so on are in:

C:\documents and settings\username(.domain for the period of domain join).

If Vista or Win 7 stations, the folders are in C:\Users

The usual things of concern are Desktop, Favorites, Documents and perhaps
email from a pst file.

All these settings are "separate but additive". By that I mean that you
can copy from one user set into another. Of course you would need permissions
to do so, but it is available if you need to.

Worse case is that you login to the workstation as the domain admin, copy
the folders from each of the prior users to the current one.

Any pst file has to be dealt with (or ignored) by importing or coping to
the new outlook profile into the new exchange mailbox.

When you are sure all settings (that are on the local station) are set, you
can delete prior users (or not, your choice).

If you have other settings of concern, please let us know which and we will
try to point you to a solution.

-
Larry
Please post the resolution to your
issue so others may benefit
-
Get Your SBS Health Check at
www.sbsbpa.com

> We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power
> off "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up
> a peer to peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our
> clients. Now that I have the server back up again I was wondering if
> there was a way ro reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using
> the //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went
> through the properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a
> workgroup, then set the nic cards to static ip addresses
> (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on one machine I tried to undo what
> I had done (changed the IP address to a static on the SBS network,
> 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties, Computer name and went
> from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup, told me I was now a
> member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to log in
> said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be able
> to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their
> pervious settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.
>

thanks for the reply. To clarify some things. All that happened was that the
connections were lost within the server (could not get to anyone on the
network or could not get outside) no one on the internal network could get to
the database or access any other assests on the network. the only change made
to the server was the removal of antivirus software. The OLD AD is still
there. There were a couple of machines that were not moved to the temp
workgroup and as soon as I removed the AV all these machines were connected
back to the server I did nothing to them. OS was not reinstalled nothing was
changed on the server.

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:

> did you recover the original server (AD) or did you install anew (possibly
> same named but unique AD)?
>
> If you have recovered the original AD you can simply rejoin manually and
> usrs will get their profiles back.
> If you have installed into a same named but new AD you have further issues
> to deal with.
>
> I am yet to look at your May 13 stuff but this idea of 'swing out to
> workgroup', reinstall, and 'bring back to domain' as a panacea is stupid.
> Preserve your AD under any circumstances possible. If SBS is down BRING IT
> BACK UP, DO NOT throw baby and bathwater away without good reason.
>
> "Popinator" <Popinator@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:8150A7CC-78CE-4CAC-A2E5-BCB433130552@newsgroup

> > We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
> > "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer
> > to
> > peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now
> > that
> > I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
> > reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
> > //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through
> > the
> > properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then
> > set
> > the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
> > one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
> > static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
> > Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup,
> > told
> > me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
> > log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be
> > able
> > to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
> > settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

>
>
> .
>

Mr. Porter thank you for your reply. I do appreciate the assistance. To
answer the questions in your first reply, no I could not ping them either
way. What finally happened was this : I reconfigured the machine I was
working on back to the way I had orginally set it up for the peer to peer
network and checked to make sure it was working, then using suggestions from
the list in Mr. Russel's post and suggestions from Mr. SuperGumby, I switched
the nic to DHCP, then right click MyComputer then properties, then Computer
name tab, then "change", leave computer name the same but select the "Domian"
radio button and enter your domain name, click "OK" it will come back stating
you have joined the "Domain" and you need to reboot, after it reboots log in
as you would on the network but make sure on the logon screen that you switch
the third line "Log onto:" to read the "Domain" not the computer if the "Log
onto:" is not visible click the "Options" button and it should appear, click
"OK" then it should reconnect to the network and return you to the desktop
you were using before being moved to the per to peer. I had tried this
before but I would reboot at the wrong time or do all steps without rebooting
inbetween, thus it failed to work.

I hope this helps others that get in a similar situation. This will NOT work
if you have reinstalled SBS as stated by Mr. Struckmeyer in his post.

Again I thank you all for your assistance.

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Also, maybe try uninstalling the AV product from the workstation before
> re-joining it to the domain.
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> ============================
>
> "Popinator" <Popinator@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:8150A7CC-78CE-4CAC-A2E5-BCB433130552@newsgroup

> > We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
> > "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer
> > to
> > peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now
> > that
> > I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
> > reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
> > //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through
> > the
> > properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then
> > set
> > the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
> > one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
> > static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
> > Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup,
> > told
> > me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
> > log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be
> > able
> > to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
> > settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

>
> .
>

Mr. Russel thank you for your reply. Using your suggestions coupled with
those of Mr. SuperGumby nad Mr. Struckmeyer. I was able to get my users back
to their old desktops and settings without a problem. Here is how:
On the machines I had changed to Peer to Peer I switched the NIC to DHCP
then right clicked My Computer then properties, then Selected the "Computer
Name" tab, then clicked on the "Change..." button, I left the computer name
the same ( I had not changed it) clicked on the "Domain" Radio Button then
entered my domain name, after rebooting on the logon screen I entered my
domain user name and password then made sure that the "Log onto:" line read
the name of the domainand was reconnected to the domain and users had their
desktops and settings back.

Again thanks for your assistance.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:

> when you use the connectcomputer app, it will offer you the chance to
> migrate the users' settings.
>
> It is _always_ best to use the built in wizards with SBS, and especially for
> joining the domain. I would:
> 1.) switch the NICs to DHCP
> 2.) reboot
> 3.) logon and connect to \\sbsserver\connectcomputer
> 4.) Select the user you want to migrate the settings for
> 5.) when the computer finishes joining the domain, reboot.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>
>
>
>
> "Popinator" <Popinator@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:8150A7CC-78CE-4CAC-A2E5-BCB433130552@newsgroup

> > We had a large problem (previous post "SBS 2k3 sp2 problem after power off
> > "posted May13 I posted my solution there). I was forced to set up a peer
> > to
> > peer network inorder to keep us runningand take care of our clients. Now
> > that
> > I have the server back up again I was wondering if there was a way ro
> > reconnect to the SBS2k3 SP2 network without using the
> > //server/connectcomputer setup. To set up the peer to peer I went through
> > the
> > properties of my computer and changed from a domain to a workgroup, then
> > set
> > the nic cards to static ip addresses (192.168.0.xx) of my temp network. on
> > one machine I tried to undo what I had done (changed the IP address to a
> > static on the SBS network, 192.168.16.xx, then My Computer, Properties,
> > Computer name and went from a workgroup to a domain. seemed to hookup,
> > told
> > me I was now a member of the mynetwork domain. restarted but was unable to
> > log in said it could not find the mynetwork domain.). I would like to be
> > able
> > to reconnect to the SBS network without the users loosing their pervious
> > settings? Can anyone help? Thanks in advance.

>
> .
>