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    ME Guest

    Migrating a Server

    Hi all,

    We need to migrate a server to another box. The current server is a 6U
    ML570 windows 2003 ent edition. We want to migrate it to a 2U DL380 windows
    2003 std edition. We have 2 licenses of Double Take but they are both
    standard editions so we cannot use the license on the windows 2003 ent
    edition. We cannot afford to upgrade the license.

    What are other solutions to migrate the server? Does a simple restore of
    the ML570 to the DL380 work?

    Thanks.



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  3. #2


    ME Guest

    Re: Migrating a Server

    BTW, this is a stand alone server running SQL 2005.


    "ME" <ME@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:e9YLvxlVKHA.4780@newsgroup

    > Hi all,
    >
    > We need to migrate a server to another box. The current server is a 6U
    > ML570 windows 2003 ent edition. We want to migrate it to a 2U DL380
    > windows 2003 std edition. We have 2 licenses of Double Take but they are
    > both standard editions so we cannot use the license on the windows 2003
    > ent edition. We cannot afford to upgrade the license.
    >
    > What are other solutions to migrate the server? Does a simple restore of
    > the ML570 to the DL380 work?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >


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  4. #3


    Ace Fekay [MCT] Guest

    Re: Migrating a Server

    "ME" <ME@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:e9YLvxlVKHA.4780@newsgroup

    > Hi all,
    >
    > We need to migrate a server to another box. The current server is a 6U
    > ML570 windows 2003 ent edition. We want to migrate it to a 2U DL380
    > windows 2003 std edition. We have 2 licenses of Double Take but they are
    > both standard editions so we cannot use the license on the windows 2003
    > ent edition. We cannot afford to upgrade the license.
    >
    > What are other solutions to migrate the server? Does a simple restore of
    > the ML570 to the DL380 work?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >

    Is this a DC or a member server?

    If it's just a member server (such as a file/print or app server), is there
    any reason not to simply install 2003 Std on the new box, and move the data
    over to it?

    If a DC, you would be better off installing it fresh, promoting it to a DC
    into the domain, then demote the old one. Keep in mind, DCs do not support
    imaging restore methods. If you try it, they will wind up getting into a USN
    Rollback error, which is complicated to repair.

    Is Exchange involved?

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    Ace

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    Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among
    responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution.

    Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
    2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
    Microsoft Certified Trainer

    For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
    http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.



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  5. #4


    ME Guest

    Re: Migrating a Server

    Oops, this is a member server in a 2003 AD.

    This box is SQL 2005 running SQL reporting service along with an intranet
    site, no Exchange invloved. We don't want a fresh install of 2003 Std and
    move the data over because the intranet site needs to be rebuilt while our
    new dev guys are still caching up with the environment so we cannot rely on
    them for the IIS part.

    I read this post
    http://serverfault.com/questions/221...o-new-hardware.
    What do you think? Thx.


    a.. do a system state backup using the built in software, to disk
    a.. backup the whole server to tape
    a.. do a clean install of windows on the new hardware giving the server the
    same name
    a.. install backup software (probably to a different location than normal so
    restore doesn't overwrite it)
    a.. restore the server, don't reboot
    a.. restore the system state backup from the disk copy
    a.. put in windows cd/dvd and reboot. when it comes up, boot from cd
    a.. (hit F6 to add raid drivers if required)
    a.. go into Repair mode and do a Repair install. This blows away hardware
    settings and reinstalls drivers for the hardware



    "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:eDo6d1lVKHA.3420@newsgroup

    > "ME" <ME@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:e9YLvxlVKHA.4780@newsgroup

    >> Hi all,
    >>
    >> We need to migrate a server to another box. The current server is a 6U
    >> ML570 windows 2003 ent edition. We want to migrate it to a 2U DL380
    >> windows 2003 std edition. We have 2 licenses of Double Take but they are
    >> both standard editions so we cannot use the license on the windows 2003
    >> ent edition. We cannot afford to upgrade the license.
    >>
    >> What are other solutions to migrate the server? Does a simple restore of
    >> the ML570 to the DL380 work?
    >>
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >
    >
    > Is this a DC or a member server?
    >
    > If it's just a member server (such as a file/print or app server), is
    > there any reason not to simply install 2003 Std on the new box, and move
    > the data over to it?
    >
    > If a DC, you would be better off installing it fresh, promoting it to a DC
    > into the domain, then demote the old one. Keep in mind, DCs do not support
    > imaging restore methods. If you try it, they will wind up getting into a
    > USN Rollback error, which is complicated to repair.
    >
    > Is Exchange involved?
    >
    > --
    > Ace
    >
    > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
    > confers no rights.
    >
    > Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
    > among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
    > resolution.
    >
    > Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
    > 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
    > Microsoft Certified Trainer
    >
    > For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
    > http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
    >
    >


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  6. #5


    Ace Fekay [MCT] Guest

    Re: Migrating a Server

    Inline...

    "ME" <ME@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:ejs333mVKHA.1232@newsgroup

    > Oops, this is a member server in a 2003 AD.
    >
    > This box is SQL 2005 running SQL reporting service along with an intranet
    > site, no Exchange invloved. We don't want a fresh install of 2003 Std and
    > move the data over because the intranet site needs to be rebuilt while our
    > new dev guys are still caching up with the environment so we cannot rely
    > on them for the IIS part.
    >
    > I read this post
    > http://serverfault.com/questions/221...o-new-hardware.
    > What do you think? Thx.
    >
    >
    > a.. do a system state backup using the built in software, to disk
    > a.. backup the whole server to tape
    > a.. do a clean install of windows on the new hardware giving the server
    > the same name
    It has to be the same version - 2003 Ent. Ent to Std in this method will NOT
    work.

    > a.. install backup software (probably to a different location than normal
    > so restore doesn't overwrite it)
    > a.. restore the server, don't reboot
    > a.. restore the system state backup from the disk copy
    > a.. put in windows cd/dvd and reboot. when it comes up, boot from cd
    > a.. (hit F6 to add raid drivers if required)
    > a.. go into Repair mode and do a Repair install. This blows away hardware
    > settings and reinstalls drivers for the hardware
    With a repair/update you still need to supply drivers using F6.

    If you want this server to be 2003 Std, you have to install it from scratch,
    then export/import SQL data. There is no "upgrade" method based on the link
    you read. Those steps are fine if using the same exact version of the OS.

    Ace






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  7. #6


    ME Guest

    Re: Migrating a Server

    Thanks.

    I forgot to say that I will install windows server Ent edition on the DL380
    server then use the ML570 server to run VMware.



    "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:eo%23EvqnVKHA.3696@newsgroup

    > Inline...
    >
    > "ME" <ME@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:ejs333mVKHA.1232@newsgroup

    >> Oops, this is a member server in a 2003 AD.
    >>
    >> This box is SQL 2005 running SQL reporting service along with an intranet
    >> site, no Exchange invloved. We don't want a fresh install of 2003 Std
    >> and move the data over because the intranet site needs to be rebuilt
    >> while our new dev guys are still caching up with the environment so we
    >> cannot rely on them for the IIS part.
    >>
    >> I read this post
    >> http://serverfault.com/questions/221...o-new-hardware.
    >> What do you think? Thx.
    >>
    >>
    >> a.. do a system state backup using the built in software, to disk
    >> a.. backup the whole server to tape
    >> a.. do a clean install of windows on the new hardware giving the server
    >> the same name
    >
    > It has to be the same version - 2003 Ent. Ent to Std in this method will
    > NOT work.
    >

    >> a.. install backup software (probably to a different location than normal
    >> so restore doesn't overwrite it)
    >> a.. restore the server, don't reboot
    >> a.. restore the system state backup from the disk copy
    >> a.. put in windows cd/dvd and reboot. when it comes up, boot from cd
    >> a.. (hit F6 to add raid drivers if required)
    >> a.. go into Repair mode and do a Repair install. This blows away hardware
    >> settings and reinstalls drivers for the hardware
    >
    > With a repair/update you still need to supply drivers using F6.
    >
    > If you want this server to be 2003 Std, you have to install it from
    > scratch, then export/import SQL data. There is no "upgrade" method based
    > on the link you read. Those steps are fine if using the same exact version
    > of the OS.
    >
    > Ace
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >


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    Ace Fekay [MCT] Guest

    Re: Migrating a Server

    "ME" <ME@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:eRlvlNoVKHA.4484@newsgroup

    > Thanks.
    >
    > I forgot to say that I will install windows server Ent edition on the
    > DL380 server then use the ML570 server to run VMware.
    >

    Other than the VMWare part, you did mention you are going from Std to Ent in
    your first post. That's the part I was addressing answering your questions.

    I hope I was able to point out what's involved in the current plan and may
    not work exactly as desired.

    Ace



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    ME Guest

    Re: Migrating a Server

    my apology for not being clear in the post.

    I hope it will work when I try it this weekend.


    "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:u$5B72rVKHA.3720@newsgroup

    > "ME" <ME@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:eRlvlNoVKHA.4484@newsgroup

    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> I forgot to say that I will install windows server Ent edition on the
    >> DL380 server then use the ML570 server to run VMware.
    >>
    >
    >
    > Other than the VMWare part, you did mention you are going from Std to Ent
    > in your first post. That's the part I was addressing answering your
    > questions.
    >
    > I hope I was able to point out what's involved in the current plan and may
    > not work exactly as desired.
    >
    > Ace
    >


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    Ace Fekay [MCT] Guest

    Re: Migrating a Server

    "ME" <ME@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:uC7Fmf0VKHA.5208@newsgroup

    > my apology for not being clear in the post.
    >
    > I hope it will work when I try it this weekend.
    >
    Good luck! Let us know how you make out.

    Ace



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    ME Guest

    Re: Migrating a Server

    I backed up the ML570 server (source server) using ntbackup and restored it
    to the DL380 server (destination server). Before I ran the backup I stopped
    all unnecessary services: sql and all sql related services; IIS Admin; DTC;
    HP management services; I did the same thing on the DL380 server before I
    restored.

    First at all I disconnected the dest. server from the network, renamed the
    dest. server with the name of the source server then started the restore.
    By default the restore option is "Do not replace files on disk ...", I
    changed it to "Always replace ...". When the restore completed I booted the
    server with a windows server CD and did a repair. After another reboot the
    server found new hw, installed drivers itself and asked me to reboot again.
    The server functions fine except some minor errors in event log because it
    is not connected to the domain such as SNMP, SMTP, etc. However IIS, SQL
    are working fine.

    So far it is a successful restore but the last thing is to shut down the
    source server and connect the dest server to the network. I am not sure how
    the new server is recognized by the domain controllers. If the trust
    somehow broken I am not sure if it will be corrected by using netdom reset
    per http://support.microsoft.com/kb/249694

    netdom reset Destination computer /domain:domain_name usero:admin_user
    /passwordo:admin_user_password

    That is the last thing I worry about.

    Thanks,


    "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:OWlFoE5VKHA.4004@newsgroup

    > "ME" <ME@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:uC7Fmf0VKHA.5208@newsgroup

    >> my apology for not being clear in the post.
    >>
    >> I hope it will work when I try it this weekend.
    >>
    >
    > Good luck! Let us know how you make out.
    >
    > Ace
    >


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