Hi,
I'm about to begin some MCITP Enterprise Administrator training and was
hoping someone could give me a little advise on the kit I'm hoping to train
on.

I was hoping to be able to install Server 2008 R2 onto my Compaq G70 T5800
Laptop which accepts EMT64 instructions.

I know that Server 2008 R2 is exclusively x64. I wondered if anyone had
tried anything like this or saw any issues with this. Would I be right in
saying that even though the processor is a Core2Duo T5800 x86, because it
copes with EMT64 instructions it should work ok?

I'm planning to buy a second laptop, probably a Dell 1545 with 3GB Ram to
give me two machines to play around with.

Would appreciate any advise.

Thanks,
Stuart

I have installed Windows Server 2008 R2 on a Dell Latitude D630 w/out issue.
The biggest thing is to make sure that you can find compatible drivers that
work under this OS. (I used the Vista/Windows 7 x64 drivers so I could play
around with HyperV. Note: HyperV is not possible with the processor you
mentioned because the Intel page doesn't show it supporting Intel-VT. Other
than that, it pretty much boils down to hardware and bios support for what
you want to do.)

"Stuart" <Stuart@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:054D3246-F43B-4AE5-B565-20C59AF6FC20@newsgroup

> Hi,
> I'm about to begin some MCITP Enterprise Administrator training and was
> hoping someone could give me a little advise on the kit I'm hoping to
> train
> on.
>
> I was hoping to be able to install Server 2008 R2 onto my Compaq G70 T5800
> Laptop which accepts EMT64 instructions.
>
> I know that Server 2008 R2 is exclusively x64. I wondered if anyone had
> tried anything like this or saw any issues with this. Would I be right in
> saying that even though the processor is a Core2Duo T5800 x86, because it
> copes with EMT64 instructions it should work ok?
>
> I'm planning to buy a second laptop, probably a Dell 1545 with 3GB Ram to
> give me two machines to play around with.
>
> Would appreciate any advise.
>
> Thanks,
> Stuart
>

Thanks Neo,

I think I will have to increase the funds a little to get a laptop that
includes either Intel virtualization or the AMD-V equivalent.

Regards,
Stuart

Hello Stuart,

I suggest to use a machine which is able to run Hyper-V or any other free
virtualization option with some more RAM, so you can use VMs for learning
which can be easy built, deleted etc. You can use snapshots, as long as NO
DC is in use where snapshots are NOT supported way of backup.

Best regards

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> Thanks Neo,
>
> I think I will have to increase the funds a little to get a laptop
> that includes either Intel virtualization or the AMD-V equivalent.
>
> Regards,
> Stuart

Thanks everyone.

In the end I've bought a Packard Bell laptop with 4GB of RAM and Athlon x2
QL-65 Processors. I checked the AMD site and it is listed as X64 and AMD-V
compliant. Also the 70-680 Training manual arrived today and actually stated
in the lab setup section that a pc with 4GB and dual cores would be able to
host the VM's needed for the labwork.

Now I can't decide whether I should charge ahead and install Server 2008 R2
with Hyper-V and host the W7 VM's in there, so as to also have access to the
Server 2008 R2 while I'm doing 70-680. The moment I pass 70-680 I want to
start the core exams for MCITP-Enterprise Administrator, so it might be a
good idea.

Thanks again,

Stuart

You don't need 2008 Hyper-V on the Laptop for a Lab. You can leave the
laptop completely unmolested,...just install VirtualPC on the Laptop. Then
run whatever you want to run in VirtualPC. It can pretty much run any OS in
a VM that you can throw at it,...including Linux and Unix variations.

VirtualPC does not have "snapshots",...but it has "undo disks" which is a
similar concept,...but it gives only one place to go back to rather than
multiple points.

Both VirtualPC and VirtualServer are free.
They will not run on "Home Editions" of the OS,...it must be a Professional
Edition.

Windows7 already includes a newer version of VirtualPC right out of the box.


--
Phillip Windell

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------


"Stuart" <Stuart@newsgroup> wrote in message
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> Thanks everyone.
>
> In the end I've bought a Packard Bell laptop with 4GB of RAM and Athlon x2
> QL-65 Processors. I checked the AMD site and it is listed as X64 and AMD-V
> compliant. Also the 70-680 Training manual arrived today and actually
> stated
> in the lab setup section that a pc with 4GB and dual cores would be able
> to
> host the VM's needed for the labwork.
>
> Now I can't decide whether I should charge ahead and install Server 2008
> R2
> with Hyper-V and host the W7 VM's in there, so as to also have access to
> the
> Server 2008 R2 while I'm doing 70-680. The moment I pass 70-680 I want to
> start the core exams for MCITP-Enterprise Administrator, so it might be a
> good idea.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Stuart
>

Sorry,...It appears it has to be Windows7 with VirtualPC,...the older VPC
(XP, Vista) won't do a 64bit guest OS's. But I think VirtualServer would
do it. Even though my latop is Vista Ult 64bit,...and VPC is the 64bit
edition,....the CPU that is emulates is only 32bit.

Currently I am trying to convert a VHD of 2008 downloaded from MS with
VMWare's Standalone Converter,..then see if the VMWare Player can handle it.

It is odd that VPC shows Server2008 as one of the Server "Types" yet it
won't do 64bit. Was there ever a 32bit version of Server2008, anyone?


--
Phillip Windell

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------



"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:edtB2VqiKHA.5568@newsgroup

> You don't need 2008 Hyper-V on the Laptop for a Lab. You can leave the
> laptop completely unmolested,...just install VirtualPC on the Laptop.
> Then run whatever you want to run in VirtualPC. It can pretty much run
> any OS in a VM that you can throw at it,...including Linux and Unix
> variations.
>
> VirtualPC does not have "snapshots",...but it has "undo disks" which is a
> similar concept,...but it gives only one place to go back to rather than
> multiple points.
>
> Both VirtualPC and VirtualServer are free.
> They will not run on "Home Editions" of the OS,...it must be a
> Professional Edition.
>
> Windows7 already includes a newer version of VirtualPC right out of the
> box.
>
>
> --
> Phillip Windell
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
> Microsoft,
> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "Stuart" <Stuart@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:CDD6C038-DBBF-4F1B-9713-A10A5DC37A57@newsgroup

>> Thanks everyone.
>>
>> In the end I've bought a Packard Bell laptop with 4GB of RAM and Athlon
>> x2
>> QL-65 Processors. I checked the AMD site and it is listed as X64 and
>> AMD-V
>> compliant. Also the 70-680 Training manual arrived today and actually
>> stated
>> in the lab setup section that a pc with 4GB and dual cores would be able
>> to
>> host the VM's needed for the labwork.
>>
>> Now I can't decide whether I should charge ahead and install Server 2008
>> R2
>> with Hyper-V and host the W7 VM's in there, so as to also have access to
>> the
>> Server 2008 R2 while I'm doing 70-680. The moment I pass 70-680 I want
>> to
>> start the core exams for MCITP-Enterprise Administrator, so it might be a
>> good idea.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Stuart
>>

>
>

"Phillip Windell" <philwindell@newsgroup> wrote in message
news:%23eRS552iKHA.5524@newsgroup

> Sorry,...It appears it has to be Windows7 with VirtualPC,...the older VPC
> (XP, Vista) won't do a 64bit guest OS's. But I think VirtualServer would
> do it. Even though my latop is Vista Ult 64bit,...and VPC is the 64bit
> edition,....the CPU that is emulates is only 32bit.
>
> Currently I am trying to convert a VHD of 2008 downloaded from MS with
> VMWare's Standalone Converter,..then see if the VMWare Player can handle
> it.
>
> It is odd that VPC shows Server2008 as one of the Server "Types" yet it
> won't do 64bit. Was there ever a 32bit version of Server2008, anyone?

Conversion to VMWare worked fine. Server2008 started right up in VMWare
Player. the WMWare Tools weren't available to make it run smoother and
improve features,...but it does run.

The emulated CPU in VMPlayer is not virtualization capable so you can't run
Hyper-V itself.


--
Phillip Windell

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

Hi Phillip,

Thanks for this.

Just to clarify, are you saying that if I install say windows 7 Ultimate on
my new laptop then I would be able to install and run Hyper-V on W2K8R2
inside Virtual PC on that laptop?

PC World cancelled my order ( stating no stock ) so I'm back in the market
for a new laptop to act as part of my lab for MCTS and MCITP Certs. So this
information may well save me some money.

Thanks,
Stuart

That won't work. You can't enable the Hyper-V role in a virtual machine.
AKAIK you can't install 64 bit guests in any version of Virtual PC. Also
Hyper-V needs to be the only hypervisor running.

--
Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/


"Stuart" <Stuart@newsgroup> wrote in message
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> Hi Phillip,
>
> Thanks for this.
>
> Just to clarify, are you saying that if I install say windows 7 Ultimate
> on
> my new laptop then I would be able to install and run Hyper-V on W2K8R2
> inside Virtual PC on that laptop?
>
> PC World cancelled my order ( stating no stock ) so I'm back in the market
> for a new laptop to act as part of my lab for MCTS and MCITP Certs. So
> this
> information may well save me some money.
>
> Thanks,
> Stuart