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Disable warning message (roaming profile)
  1. #1


    Martin Eichhorn Guest

    Disable warning message (roaming profile)

    Is it possible to disable the below-mentioned warning message on a
    client, if the network is unreachable? Maybe this is possible via
    registry or group policy?

    CLIENT: Windows XP Professional (SP3)
    SERVER: Windows 2003 Standard Server (SP2)

    INFO: We do not save roaming profiles locally on clients. So this is
    why the warning message appears. Because it's our intention, it would
    be helpful to disable the message.



    WARNING MESSAGE: "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your
    roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local
    profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server when
    you logoff. You may receive this error message because of network
    problems or insufficient security rights. If this problem persists,
    contact your network administrator."

    Best regards,

    Martin

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  2. #2


    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] Guest

    Re: Disable warning message (roaming profile)

    Hello Martin,

    If i understand you correct you use roaming profiles. So this message appears
    only if the network connection is not available to download the profile.
    Even if you safe the profiles on a server share, there is still a local profile
    used/created when you logon. As the profile is not to copy to the local machine
    you will get this message. You MUST have a profile on the machine where you
    logging on, either the roaming profile or a local created when the copy option
    isn't possible.

    If i misunderstand your question please clarify.

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
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    > Is it possible to disable the below-mentioned warning message on a
    > client, if the network is unreachable? Maybe this is possible via
    > registry or group policy?
    >
    > CLIENT: Windows XP Professional (SP3)
    > SERVER: Windows 2003 Standard Server (SP2)
    > INFO: We do not save roaming profiles locally on clients. So this is
    > why the warning message appears. Because it's our intention, it would
    > be helpful to disable the message.
    >
    > WARNING MESSAGE: "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your
    > roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local
    > profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server when
    > you logoff. You may receive this error message because of network
    > problems or insufficient security rights. If this problem persists,
    > contact your network administrator."
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Martin
    >


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  3. #3


    Martin Eichhorn Guest

    Re: Disable warning message (roaming profile)

    Hello Meinolf,

    Many thanks for your prompt response.

    You're right. We are using roaming profiles (stored on the server) and
    the message appears, when no network connection is available. After
    logon an user profile will generated on the local machine by means of
    "Default User" in C:\Documents and Settings\. After a specified time
    the computer will automatically reboot (shutdown-script in autostart),
    because we don't want any local logons. After reboot/shutdown local
    created profiles will be deleted automatically by a script.

    I know it's a little bit confusing to understand why we're doing it on
    this way. We just want a profile on the server, which is used on
    several machines. We don't want to configure or update every profile
    on each machine. Changes on the profile will not be saved. If the
    network is unreachable, we don't want that the user is able to work
    with his local profile. Everything should be restricted expect some
    programmes we defined.

    (For better understanding this is a terminal in a class room with
    restricted access.)

    Everything working as planned. The only unlovely thing is that the
    user see the warning message when the network is unavailable (create
    locale profile). Maybe it's possible to blanking this message?

    Best regards

    Martin

    On 29 Jan., 19:31, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de>
    wrote:

    > Hello Martin,
    >
    > If i understand you correct you use roaming profiles. So this message appears
    > only if the network connection is not available to download the profile.
    > Even if you safe the profiles on a server share, there is still a local profile
    > used/created when you logon. As the profile is not to copy to the local machine
    > you will get this message. You MUST have a profile on the machine where you
    > logging on, either the roaming profile or a local created when the copy option
    > isn't possible.
    >
    > If i misunderstand your question please clarify.
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Meinolf Weber
    > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    > no rights.
    > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >

    > > Is it possible to disable the below-mentioned warning message on a
    > > client, if the network is unreachable? Maybe this is possible via
    > > registry or group policy?
    >

    > > CLIENT: Windows XP Professional (SP3)
    > > SERVER: Windows 2003 Standard Server (SP2)
    > > INFO: We do not save roaming profiles locally on clients. So this is
    > > why the warning message appears. Because it's our intention, it would
    > > be helpful to disable the message.
    >

    > > WARNING MESSAGE: "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your
    > > roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local
    > > profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server when
    > > you logoff. You may receive this error message because of network
    > > problems or insufficient security rights. If this problem persists,
    > > contact your network administrator."
    >

    > > Best regards,
    >

    > > Martin

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  4. #4


    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] Guest

    Re: Disable warning message (roaming profile)

    Hello Martin,

    Never heard about this.

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
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    > Hello Meinolf,
    >
    > Many thanks for your prompt response.
    >
    > You're right. We are using roaming profiles (stored on the server) and
    > the message appears, when no network connection is available. After
    > logon an user profile will generated on the local machine by means of
    > "Default User" in C:\Documents and Settings\. After a specified time
    > the computer will automatically reboot (shutdown-script in autostart),
    > because we don't want any local logons. After reboot/shutdown local
    > created profiles will be deleted automatically by a script.
    >
    > I know it's a little bit confusing to understand why we're doing it on
    > this way. We just want a profile on the server, which is used on
    > several machines. We don't want to configure or update every profile
    > on each machine. Changes on the profile will not be saved. If the
    > network is unreachable, we don't want that the user is able to work
    > with his local profile. Everything should be restricted expect some
    > programmes we defined.
    >
    > (For better understanding this is a terminal in a class room with
    > restricted access.)
    >
    > Everything working as planned. The only unlovely thing is that the
    > user see the warning message when the network is unavailable (create
    > locale profile). Maybe it's possible to blanking this message?
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Martin
    >
    > On 29 Jan., 19:31, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de>
    > wrote:
    >

    >> Hello Martin,
    >>
    >> If i understand you correct you use roaming profiles. So this message
    >> appears
    >> only if the network connection is not available to download the
    >> profile.
    >> Even if you safe the profiles on a server share, there is still a
    >> local profile
    >> used/created when you logon. As the profile is not to copy to the
    >> local machine
    >> you will get this message. You MUST have a profile on the machine
    >> where you
    >> logging on, either the roaming profile or a local created when the
    >> copy option
    >> isn't possible.
    >> If i misunderstand your question please clarify.
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >>
    >> Meinolf Weber
    >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    >> confers
    >> no rights.
    >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

    >>> Is it possible to disable the below-mentioned warning message on a
    >>> client, if the network is unreachable? Maybe this is possible via
    >>> registry or group policy?
    >>>
    >>> CLIENT: Windows XP Professional (SP3)
    >>> SERVER: Windows 2003 Standard Server (SP2)
    >>> INFO: We do not save roaming profiles locally on clients. So this is
    >>> why the warning message appears. Because it's our intention, it
    >>> would
    >>> be helpful to disable the message.
    >>> WARNING MESSAGE: "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your
    >>> roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local
    >>> profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server
    >>> when you logoff. You may receive this error message because of
    >>> network problems or insufficient security rights. If this problem
    >>> persists, contact your network administrator."
    >>>
    >>> Best regards,
    >>>
    >>> Martin
    >>>


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  5. #5


    Phillip Windell Guest

    Re: Disable warning message (roaming profile)

    I think you misunderstand what you have and what it is really Doing.

    It just isn't possible to not have profiles at all locally. The closest
    you can come to that is with Folder Redirection and it only applies to parts
    of the profile (ex. can't include browser favorites).

    It is always going to copy the remote profile to the local machine and is
    going to run from there. It doesn't matter if a script deletes it on
    shutdown because it will be recreated when the user logs back in. Also
    using Manditory profiles is no different. Also making it not save changes
    permanently doesn't change anything,...in fact that is really doing the same
    thing as your "script",...so your script is redundant.

    The reason you get that warning message is because it is exactly true,...it
    really is going to do exactly what it says,...and you cannot change it.


    --
    Phillip Windell

    The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
    or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
    -----------------------------------------------------


    "Martin Eichhorn" <eichhorn.antispam@newsgroup> wrote in message
    news:075a3a6a-c592-4854-9189-0edfd25795ad@newsgroup

    > Hello Meinolf,
    >
    > Many thanks for your prompt response.
    >
    > You're right. We are using roaming profiles (stored on the server) and
    > the message appears, when no network connection is available. After
    > logon an user profile will generated on the local machine by means of
    > "Default User" in C:\Documents and Settings\. After a specified time
    > the computer will automatically reboot (shutdown-script in autostart),
    > because we don't want any local logons. After reboot/shutdown local
    > created profiles will be deleted automatically by a script.
    >
    > I know it's a little bit confusing to understand why we're doing it on
    > this way. We just want a profile on the server, which is used on
    > several machines. We don't want to configure or update every profile
    > on each machine. Changes on the profile will not be saved. If the
    > network is unreachable, we don't want that the user is able to work
    > with his local profile. Everything should be restricted expect some
    > programmes we defined.
    >
    > (For better understanding this is a terminal in a class room with
    > restricted access.)
    >
    > Everything working as planned. The only unlovely thing is that the
    > user see the warning message when the network is unavailable (create
    > locale profile). Maybe it's possible to blanking this message?
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Martin
    >
    > On 29 Jan., 19:31, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de>
    > wrote:

    >> Hello Martin,
    >>
    >> If i understand you correct you use roaming profiles. So this message
    >> appears
    >> only if the network connection is not available to download the profile.
    >> Even if you safe the profiles on a server share, there is still a local
    >> profile
    >> used/created when you logon. As the profile is not to copy to the local
    >> machine
    >> you will get this message. You MUST have a profile on the machine where
    >> you
    >> logging on, either the roaming profile or a local created when the copy
    >> option
    >> isn't possible.
    >>
    >> If i misunderstand your question please clarify.
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >>
    >> Meinolf Weber
    >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    >> confers
    >> no rights.
    >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>

    >> > Is it possible to disable the below-mentioned warning message on a
    >> > client, if the network is unreachable? Maybe this is possible via
    >> > registry or group policy?
    >>

    >> > CLIENT: Windows XP Professional (SP3)
    >> > SERVER: Windows 2003 Standard Server (SP2)
    >> > INFO: We do not save roaming profiles locally on clients. So this is
    >> > why the warning message appears. Because it's our intention, it would
    >> > be helpful to disable the message.
    >>

    >> > WARNING MESSAGE: "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your
    >> > roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local
    >> > profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server when
    >> > you logoff. You may receive this error message because of network
    >> > problems or insufficient security rights. If this problem persists,
    >> > contact your network administrator."
    >>

    >> > Best regards,
    >>

    >> > Martin
    >


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  6. #6


    Martin Eichhorn Guest

    Re: Disable warning message (roaming profile)

    Hi Phillip,

    No, the procedure is understandable and clear to me.

    BACKGROUND: A local copy of the server profile is not the problem. But
    I don't want to save this profile for next restart. So you can set in
    the GPO that the profile will be deleted after logoff. But that
    doesn't always work. Sometimes there are some files which Windows
    could not delete and so you get duplicate folders (e.g. Username,
    Username.0001, Username.0002,…). We already installed "User Profile
    Hive Cleanup Service", but sometimes Windows still can't delete the
    profile-folder after logoff. For this case our script is working
    perfectly and will remove these folders.

    > The reason you get that warning message is because it is exactly true,...it
    > really is going to do exactly what it says,...and you cannot change it.
    Okay, thank you very much. Everything else is working fine. I thought
    it's possible to deactivate this warning message.

    I know there is an alternative way by using the GPO (logoff when
    network is unreachable), but this not working on our clients. Wenn the
    network is not available the computer shoukd automatically shutdown
    after logon. This is why we're using this confusing way. :-)

    Sorry simple english. Thank you very much.

    Best regards,

    Martin

    --

    On 1 Feb., 15:58, "Phillip Windell" <philwind...@newsgroup> wrote:

    > I think you misunderstand what you have and what it is really Doing.
    >
    > It just isn't possible to not have profiles at all locally. * The closest
    > you can come to that is with Folder Redirection and it only applies to parts
    > of the profile (ex. can't include browser favorites).
    >
    > It is always going to copy the remote profile to the local machine and is
    > going to run from there. *It doesn't matter if a script deletes it on
    > shutdown because it will be recreated when the user logs back in. *Also
    > using Manditory profiles is no different. * Also making it not save changes
    > permanently doesn't change anything,...in fact that is really doing the same
    > thing as your "script",...so your script is redundant.
    >
    > The reason you get that warning message is because it is exactly true,...it
    > really is going to do exactly what it says,...and you cannot change it.
    >
    > --
    > Phillip Windell
    >
    > The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
    > or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
    > -----------------------------------------------------
    >
    > "Martin Eichhorn" <eichhorn.antis...@newsgroup> wrote in message
    >
    > news:075a3a6a-c592-4854-9189-0edfd25795ad@newsgroup
    >

    > > Hello Meinolf,
    >

    > > Many thanks for your prompt response.
    >

    > > You're right. We are using roaming profiles (stored on the server) and
    > > the message appears, when no network connection is available. After
    > > logon an user profile will generated on the local machine by means of
    > > "Default User" in C:\Documents and Settings\. After a specified time
    > > the computer will automatically reboot (shutdown-script in autostart),
    > > because we don't want any local logons. After reboot/shutdown local
    > > created profiles will be deleted automatically by a script.
    >

    > > I know it's a little bit confusing to understand why we're doing it on
    > > this way. We just want a profile on the server, which is used on
    > > several machines. We don't want to configure or update every profile
    > > on each machine. Changes on the profile will not be saved. If the
    > > network is unreachable, we don't want that the user is able to work
    > > with his local profile. Everything should be restricted expect some
    > > programmes we defined.
    >

    > > (For better understanding this is a terminal in a class room with
    > > restricted access.)
    >

    > > Everything working as planned. The only unlovely thing is that the
    > > user see the warning message when the network is unavailable (create
    > > locale profile). Maybe it's possible to blanking this message?
    >

    > > Best regards
    >

    > > Martin
    >

    > > On 29 Jan., 19:31, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de>
    > > wrote:

    > >> Hello Martin,
    >

    > >> If i understand you correct you use roaming profiles. So this message
    > >> appears
    > >> only if the network connection is not available to download the profile.
    > >> Even if you safe the profiles on a server share, there is still a local
    > >> profile
    > >> used/created when you logon. As the profile is not to copy to the local
    > >> machine
    > >> you will get this message. You MUST have a profile on the machine where
    > >> you
    > >> logging on, either the roaming profile or a local created when the copy
    > >> option
    > >> isn't possible.
    >

    > >> If i misunderstand your question please clarify.
    >

    > >> Best regards
    >

    > >> Meinolf Weber
    > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    > >> confers
    > >> no rights.
    > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >

    > >> > Is it possible to disable the below-mentioned warning message on a
    > >> > client, if the network is unreachable? Maybe this is possible via
    > >> > registry or group policy?
    >

    > >> > CLIENT: Windows XP Professional (SP3)
    > >> > SERVER: Windows 2003 Standard Server (SP2)
    > >> > INFO: We do not save roaming profiles locally on clients. So this is
    > >> > why the warning message appears. Because it's our intention, it would
    > >> > be helpful to disable the message.
    >

    > >> > WARNING MESSAGE: "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your
    > >> > roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local
    > >> > profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server when
    > >> > you logoff. You may receive this error message because of network
    > >> > problems or insufficient security rights. If this problem persists,
    > >> > contact your network administrator."
    >

    > >> > Best regards,
    >

    > >> > Martin

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  7. #7


    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] Guest

    Re: Disable warning message (roaming profile)

    Hello Martin,

    Which GPO do you mean exactly for "logoff when network is unreachable"? I
    can't find it.

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > Hi Phillip,
    >
    > No, the procedure is understandable and clear to me.
    >
    > BACKGROUND: A local copy of the server profile is not the problem. But
    > I don't want to save this profile for next restart. So you can set in
    > the GPO that the profile will be deleted after logoff. But that
    > doesn't always work. Sometimes there are some files which Windows
    > could not delete and so you get duplicate folders (e.g. Username,
    > Username.0001, Username.0002,.). We already installed "User Profile
    > Hive Cleanup Service", but sometimes Windows still can't delete the
    > profile-folder after logoff. For this case our script is working
    > perfectly and will remove these folders.
    >

    >> The reason you get that warning message is because it is exactly
    >> true,...it really is going to do exactly what it says,...and you
    >> cannot change it.
    >>
    > Okay, thank you very much. Everything else is working fine. I thought
    > it's possible to deactivate this warning message.
    >
    > I know there is an alternative way by using the GPO (logoff when
    > network is unreachable), but this not working on our clients. Wenn the
    > network is not available the computer shoukd automatically shutdown
    > after logon. This is why we're using this confusing way. :-)
    >
    > Sorry simple english. Thank you very much.
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    > Martin
    >
    > --
    >
    > On 1 Feb., 15:58, "Phillip Windell" <philwind...@newsgroup> wrote:
    >

    >> I think you misunderstand what you have and what it is really Doing.
    >>
    >> It just isn't possible to not have profiles at all locally. The
    >> closest you can come to that is with Folder Redirection and it only
    >> applies to parts of the profile (ex. can't include browser
    >> favorites).
    >>
    >> It is always going to copy the remote profile to the local machine
    >> and is going to run from there. It doesn't matter if a script
    >> deletes it on shutdown because it will be recreated when the user
    >> logs back in. Also using Manditory profiles is no different. Also
    >> making it not save changes permanently doesn't change anything,...in
    >> fact that is really doing the same thing as your "script",...so your
    >> script is redundant.
    >>
    >> The reason you get that warning message is because it is exactly
    >> true,...it really is going to do exactly what it says,...and you
    >> cannot change it.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Phillip Windell
    >> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
    >> Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
    >> -----------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >> "Martin Eichhorn" <eichhorn.antis...@newsgroup> wrote in message
    >>
    >> news:075a3a6a-c592-4854-9189-0edfd25795ad@newsgroup
    >> ...
    >>

    >>> Hello Meinolf,
    >>>
    >>> Many thanks for your prompt response.
    >>>
    >>> You're right. We are using roaming profiles (stored on the server)
    >>> and the message appears, when no network connection is available.
    >>> After logon an user profile will generated on the local machine by
    >>> means of "Default User" in C:\Documents and Settings\. After a
    >>> specified time the computer will automatically reboot
    >>> (shutdown-script in autostart), because we don't want any local
    >>> logons. After reboot/shutdown local created profiles will be deleted
    >>> automatically by a script.
    >>>
    >>> I know it's a little bit confusing to understand why we're doing it
    >>> on this way. We just want a profile on the server, which is used on
    >>> several machines. We don't want to configure or update every profile
    >>> on each machine. Changes on the profile will not be saved. If the
    >>> network is unreachable, we don't want that the user is able to work
    >>> with his local profile. Everything should be restricted expect some
    >>> programmes we defined.
    >>>
    >>> (For better understanding this is a terminal in a class room with
    >>> restricted access.)
    >>>
    >>> Everything working as planned. The only unlovely thing is that the
    >>> user see the warning message when the network is unavailable (create
    >>> locale profile). Maybe it's possible to blanking this message?
    >>>
    >>> Best regards
    >>>
    >>> Martin
    >>>
    >>> On 29 Jan., 19:31, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hello Martin,
    >>>>
    >>>> If i understand you correct you use roaming profiles. So this
    >>>> message
    >>>> appears
    >>>> only if the network connection is not available to download the
    >>>> profile.
    >>>> Even if you safe the profiles on a server share, there is still a
    >>>> local
    >>>> profile
    >>>> used/created when you logon. As the profile is not to copy to the
    >>>> local
    >>>> machine
    >>>> you will get this message. You MUST have a profile on the machine
    >>>> where
    >>>> you
    >>>> logging on, either the roaming profile or a local created when the
    >>>> copy
    >>>> option
    >>>> isn't possible.
    >>>> If i misunderstand your question please clarify.
    >>>>
    >>>> Best regards
    >>>>
    >>>> Meinolf Weber
    >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
    >>>> and
    >>>> confers
    >>>> no rights.
    >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>>>> Is it possible to disable the below-mentioned warning message on a
    >>>>> client, if the network is unreachable? Maybe this is possible via
    >>>>> registry or group policy?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> CLIENT: Windows XP Professional (SP3)
    >>>>> SERVER: Windows 2003 Standard Server (SP2)
    >>>>> INFO: We do not save roaming profiles locally on clients. So this
    >>>>> is
    >>>>> why the warning message appears. Because it's our intention, it
    >>>>> would
    >>>>> be helpful to disable the message.
    >>>>> WARNING MESSAGE: "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your
    >>>>> roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local
    >>>>> profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server
    >>>>> when you logoff. You may receive this error message because of
    >>>>> network problems or insufficient security rights. If this problem
    >>>>> persists, contact your network administrator."
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Best regards,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Martin
    >>>>>


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  8. #8


    Martin Eichhorn Guest

    Re: Disable warning message (roaming profile)

    Hello Meinolf,

    not exactly the wording, but similar effect:

    Administrative Templates\System\User Profiles: Log users off when
    roaming profile fails
    (HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System!ProfileErrorAction)

    DESCRIPTION: Logs a user off automatically when the system cannot load
    the user's roaming user profile. This setting is used when the system
    cannot find the roaming user profile or the profile contains errors
    which prevent it from loading correctly.

    Best regards

    Martin

    --

    On 2 Feb., 10:50, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de>
    wrote:

    > Hello Martin,
    >
    > Which GPO do you mean exactly for "logoff when network is unreachable"? I
    > can't find it.
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Meinolf Weber
    > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    > no rights.
    > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >

    > > Hi Phillip,
    >

    > > No, the procedure is understandable and clear to me.
    >

    > > BACKGROUND: A local copy of the server profile is not the problem. But
    > > I don't want to save this profile for next restart. So you can set in
    > > the GPO that the profile will be deleted after logoff. But that
    > > doesn't always work. Sometimes there are some files which Windows
    > > could not delete and so you get duplicate folders (e.g. Username,
    > > Username.0001, Username.0002,.). We already installed "User Profile
    > > Hive Cleanup Service", but sometimes Windows still can't delete the
    > > profile-folder after logoff. For this case our script is working
    > > perfectly and will remove these folders.
    >

    > >> The reason you get that warning message is because it is exactly
    > >> true,...it really is going to do exactly what it says,...and you
    > >> cannot change it.
    >

    > > Okay, thank you very much. Everything else is working fine. I thought
    > > it's possible to deactivate this warning message.
    >

    > > I know there is an alternative way by using the GPO (logoff when
    > > network is unreachable), but this not working on our clients. Wenn the
    > > network is not available the computer shoukd automatically shutdown
    > > after logon. This is why we're using this confusing way. :-)
    >

    > > Sorry simple english. Thank you very much.
    >

    > > Best regards,
    >

    > > Martin
    >

    > > --
    >

    > > On 1 Feb., 15:58, "Phillip Windell" <philwind...@newsgroup> wrote:
    >

    > >> I think you misunderstand what you have and what it is really Doing.
    >

    > >> It just isn't possible to not have profiles at all locally. * The
    > >> closest you can come to that is with Folder Redirection and it only
    > >> applies to parts of the profile (ex. can't include browser
    > >> favorites).
    >

    > >> It is always going to copy the remote profile to the local machine
    > >> and is going to run from there. *It doesn't matter if a script
    > >> deletes it on shutdown because it will be recreated when the user
    > >> logs back in. *Also using Manditory profiles is no different. * Also
    > >> making it not save changes permanently doesn't change anything,...in
    > >> fact that is really doing the same thing as your "script",...so your
    > >> script is redundant.
    >

    > >> The reason you get that warning message is because it is exactly
    > >> true,...it really is going to do exactly what it says,...and you
    > >> cannot change it.
    >

    > >> --
    > >> Phillip Windell
    > >> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
    > >> Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
    > >> -----------------------------------------------------
    >

    > >> "Martin Eichhorn" <eichhorn.antis...@newsgroup> wrote in message
    >

    > >>news:075a3a6a-c592-4854-9189-0edfd25795ad@newsgroup
    > >> ...
    >

    > >>> Hello Meinolf,
    >

    > >>> Many thanks for your prompt response.
    >

    > >>> You're right. We are using roaming profiles (stored on the server)
    > >>> and the message appears, when no network connection is available.
    > >>> After logon an user profile will generated on the local machine by
    > >>> means of "Default User" in C:\Documents and Settings\. After a
    > >>> specified time the computer will automatically reboot
    > >>> (shutdown-script in autostart), because we don't want any local
    > >>> logons. After reboot/shutdown local created profiles will be deleted
    > >>> automatically by a script.
    >

    > >>> I know it's a little bit confusing to understand why we're doing it
    > >>> on this way. We just want a profile on the server, which is used on
    > >>> several machines. We don't want to configure or update every profile
    > >>> on each machine. Changes on the profile will not be saved. If the
    > >>> network is unreachable, we don't want that the user is able to work
    > >>> with his local profile. Everything should be restricted expect some
    > >>> programmes we defined.
    >

    > >>> (For better understanding this is a terminal in a class room with
    > >>> restricted access.)
    >

    > >>> Everything working as planned. The only unlovely thing is that the
    > >>> user see the warning message when the network is unavailable (create
    > >>> locale profile). Maybe it's possible to blanking this message?
    >

    > >>> Best regards
    >

    > >>> Martin
    >

    > >>> On 29 Jan., 19:31, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de>
    > >>> wrote:
    >

    > >>>> Hello Martin,
    >

    > >>>> If i understand you correct you use roaming profiles. So this
    > >>>> message
    > >>>> appears
    > >>>> only if the network connection is not available to download the
    > >>>> profile.
    > >>>> Even if you safe the profiles on a server share, there is still a
    > >>>> local
    > >>>> profile
    > >>>> used/created when you logon. As the profile is not to copy to the
    > >>>> local
    > >>>> machine
    > >>>> you will get this message. You MUST have a profile on the machine
    > >>>> where
    > >>>> you
    > >>>> logging on, either the roaming profile or a local created when the
    > >>>> copy
    > >>>> option
    > >>>> isn't possible.
    > >>>> If i misunderstand your question please clarify.
    >

    > >>>> Best regards
    >

    > >>>> Meinolf Weber
    > >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
    > >>>> and
    > >>>> confers
    > >>>> no rights.
    > >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    > >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    > >>>>> Is it possible to disable the below-mentioned warning message on a
    > >>>>> client, if the network is unreachable? Maybe this is possible via
    > >>>>> registry or group policy?
    >

    > >>>>> CLIENT: Windows XP Professional (SP3)
    > >>>>> SERVER: Windows 2003 Standard Server (SP2)
    > >>>>> INFO: We do not save roaming profiles locally on clients. So this
    > >>>>> is
    > >>>>> why the warning message appears. Because it's our intention, it
    > >>>>> would
    > >>>>> be helpful to disable the message.
    > >>>>> WARNING MESSAGE: "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your
    > >>>>> roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local
    > >>>>> profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server
    > >>>>> when you logoff. You may receive this error message because of
    > >>>>> network problems or insufficient security rights. If this problem
    > >>>>> persists, contact your network administrator."
    >

    > >>>>> Best regards,
    >

    > >>>>> Martin

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  9. #9


    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] Guest

    Re: Disable warning message (roaming profile)

    Hello Martin,

    Thanks for the correct path. Did you check on a problem client where it doesn't
    work with gpresult /v that the GPO is applied and with RSOP.msc that the
    settigns are also listed?

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
    Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
    no rights.
    ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


    > Hello Meinolf,
    >
    > not exactly the wording, but similar effect:
    >
    > Administrative Templates\System\User Profiles: Log users off when
    > roaming profile fails
    > (HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System!ProfileErrorAction)
    >
    > DESCRIPTION: Logs a user off automatically when the system cannot load
    > the user's roaming user profile. This setting is used when the system
    > cannot find the roaming user profile or the profile contains errors
    > which prevent it from loading correctly.
    >
    > Best regards
    >
    > Martin
    >
    > --
    >
    > On 2 Feb., 10:50, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de>
    > wrote:
    >

    >> Hello Martin,
    >>
    >> Which GPO do you mean exactly for "logoff when network is
    >> unreachable"? I can't find it.
    >>
    >> Best regards
    >>
    >> Meinolf Weber
    >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    >> confers
    >> no rights.
    >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

    >>> Hi Phillip,
    >>>
    >>> No, the procedure is understandable and clear to me.
    >>>
    >>> BACKGROUND: A local copy of the server profile is not the problem.
    >>> But I don't want to save this profile for next restart. So you can
    >>> set in the GPO that the profile will be deleted after logoff. But
    >>> that doesn't always work. Sometimes there are some files which
    >>> Windows could not delete and so you get duplicate folders (e.g.
    >>> Username, Username.0001, Username.0002,.). We already installed
    >>> "User Profile Hive Cleanup Service", but sometimes Windows still
    >>> can't delete the profile-folder after logoff. For this case our
    >>> script is working perfectly and will remove these folders.
    >>>
    >>>> The reason you get that warning message is because it is exactly
    >>>> true,...it really is going to do exactly what it says,...and you
    >>>> cannot change it.
    >>>>
    >>> Okay, thank you very much. Everything else is working fine. I
    >>> thought it's possible to deactivate this warning message.
    >>>
    >>> I know there is an alternative way by using the GPO (logoff when
    >>> network is unreachable), but this not working on our clients. Wenn
    >>> the network is not available the computer shoukd automatically
    >>> shutdown after logon. This is why we're using this confusing way.
    >>> :-)
    >>>
    >>> Sorry simple english. Thank you very much.
    >>>
    >>> Best regards,
    >>>
    >>> Martin
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> On 1 Feb., 15:58, "Phillip Windell" <philwind...@newsgroup> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I think you misunderstand what you have and what it is really
    >>>> Doing.
    >>>>
    >>>> It just isn't possible to not have profiles at all locally. The
    >>>> closest you can come to that is with Folder Redirection and it only
    >>>> applies to parts of the profile (ex. can't include browser
    >>>> favorites).
    >>>>
    >>>> It is always going to copy the remote profile to the local machine
    >>>> and is going to run from there. It doesn't matter if a script
    >>>> deletes it on shutdown because it will be recreated when the user
    >>>> logs back in. Also using Manditory profiles is no different.
    >>>> Also making it not save changes permanently doesn't change
    >>>> anything,...in fact that is really doing the same thing as your
    >>>> "script",...so your script is redundant.
    >>>>
    >>>> The reason you get that warning message is because it is exactly
    >>>> true,...it really is going to do exactly what it says,...and you
    >>>> cannot change it.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Phillip Windell
    >>>> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
    >>>> Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
    >>>> -----------------------------------------------------
    >>>> "Martin Eichhorn" <eichhorn.antis...@newsgroup> wrote in
    >>>> message
    >>>>
    >>>> news:075a3a6a-c592-4854-9189-0edfd25795ad@newsgroup
    >>>> om ...
    >>>>
    >>>>> Hello Meinolf,
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Many thanks for your prompt response.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You're right. We are using roaming profiles (stored on the server)
    >>>>> and the message appears, when no network connection is available.
    >>>>> After logon an user profile will generated on the local machine by
    >>>>> means of "Default User" in C:\Documents and Settings\. After a
    >>>>> specified time the computer will automatically reboot
    >>>>> (shutdown-script in autostart), because we don't want any local
    >>>>> logons. After reboot/shutdown local created profiles will be
    >>>>> deleted automatically by a script.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I know it's a little bit confusing to understand why we're doing
    >>>>> it on this way. We just want a profile on the server, which is
    >>>>> used on several machines. We don't want to configure or update
    >>>>> every profile on each machine. Changes on the profile will not be
    >>>>> saved. If the network is unreachable, we don't want that the user
    >>>>> is able to work with his local profile. Everything should be
    >>>>> restricted expect some programmes we defined.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> (For better understanding this is a terminal in a class room with
    >>>>> restricted access.)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Everything working as planned. The only unlovely thing is that the
    >>>>> user see the warning message when the network is unavailable
    >>>>> (create locale profile). Maybe it's possible to blanking this
    >>>>> message?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Best regards
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Martin
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On 29 Jan., 19:31, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Hello Martin,
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If i understand you correct you use roaming profiles. So this
    >>>>>> message
    >>>>>> appears
    >>>>>> only if the network connection is not available to download the
    >>>>>> profile.
    >>>>>> Even if you safe the profiles on a server share, there is still a
    >>>>>> local
    >>>>>> profile
    >>>>>> used/created when you logon. As the profile is not to copy to the
    >>>>>> local
    >>>>>> machine
    >>>>>> you will get this message. You MUST have a profile on the machine
    >>>>>> where
    >>>>>> you
    >>>>>> logging on, either the roaming profile or a local created when
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> copy
    >>>>>> option
    >>>>>> isn't possible.
    >>>>>> If i misunderstand your question please clarify.
    >>>>>> Best regards
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Meinolf Weber
    >>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
    >>>>>> and
    >>>>>> confers
    >>>>>> no rights.
    >>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
    >>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >>>>>>> Is it possible to disable the below-mentioned warning message on
    >>>>>>> a client, if the network is unreachable? Maybe this is possible
    >>>>>>> via registry or group policy?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> CLIENT: Windows XP Professional (SP3)
    >>>>>>> SERVER: Windows 2003 Standard Server (SP2)
    >>>>>>> INFO: We do not save roaming profiles locally on clients. So
    >>>>>>> this
    >>>>>>> is
    >>>>>>> why the warning message appears. Because it's our intention, it
    >>>>>>> would
    >>>>>>> be helpful to disable the message.
    >>>>>>> WARNING MESSAGE: "Windows cannot locate the server copy of your
    >>>>>>> roaming profile and is attempting to log you on with your local
    >>>>>>> profile. Changes to the profile will not be copied to the server
    >>>>>>> when you logoff. You may receive this error message because of
    >>>>>>> network problems or insufficient security rights. If this
    >>>>>>> problem
    >>>>>>> persists, contact your network administrator."
    >>>>>>> Best regards,
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Martin
    >>>>>>>


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  10. #10


    Phillip Windell Guest

    Re: Disable warning message (roaming profile)

    Thinking along the same lines as Meinolf,...if this policy is not working or
    not working consistantly,...then figuring that out is your *real* solution.
    Once it works consistantly, none of this will be an issue anymore.

    Meinolf is more suited to helping you sort that out than I am.


    --
    Phillip Windell

    The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
    or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
    -----------------------------------------------------



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